Hi all,

I know there are already a couple of posts about the Phantasm stabilizer series (entry-level PS400, V-tail PS360, Turbo-Tail PS340, and PS325). Some members advice against using the PS325 for windfoiling, but I've been using it with no problem, and I actually like it a lot.

My current high-wind setup is as follows (see attached photo):
- Board: Slingshot Freestyle 87 L
- Front wing: PTM 730 (665 cm2)
- Stabilizer: PS325 (202 cm2)

This setup works really well as long as there is enough wind. Of course, it is harder to take off with this board and a small front wing compared to the bigger Slingshot Freestyle 115 L, but with the right technique I can get flying pretty quickly.

My question is specifically about the stabilizer. According to Slingshot, the suggested progression is PS400 > PS360 > PS340 > PS325. However, I am wondering why the PS325 is considered more advanced than the PS340. The PS325 seems more locked-in due to its winglets and larger surface area.
For reference:
Phantasm Stabilizer 340 Turbo-Tail surface area: 184 cm2
Phantasm Stabilizer 325 surface area: 202 cm2

Based on that, it feels like the logical step would be to move from the PS325 to the PS340, not the other way around. Am I thinking about this correctly? Has anyone here tested both? I am very happy with the PS325 paired with the PTM 730, as the setup is extremely fast with plenty of glide, but would like to try the PS340...

Good winds!

Not sure why there needs to be a progression since the feel very different

The 325 is fast and drives/ tracks very well, giving good projection forward during carves -which helps with linking up swell trains
The 340 is pretty much the same speed, but gives a looser/slidey feel. Better for tight turns slashing around in the pocket.

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Epigishmog said..
Hi all,

I know there are already a couple of posts about the Phantasm stabilizer series (entry-level PS400, V-tail PS360, Turbo-Tail PS340, and PS325). Some members advice against using the PS325 for windfoiling, but I've been using it with no problem, and I actually like it a lot.

My current high-wind setup is as follows (see attached photo):
- Board: Slingshot Freestyle 87 L
- Front wing: PTM 730 (665 cm2)
- Stabilizer: PS325 (202 cm2)

This setup works really well as long as there is enough wind. Of course, it is harder to take off with this board and a small front wing compared to the bigger Slingshot Freestyle 115 L, but with the right technique I can get flying pretty quickly.

My question is specifically about the stabilizer. According to Slingshot, the suggested progression is PS400 > PS360 > PS340 > PS325. However, I am wondering why the PS325 is considered more advanced than the PS340. The PS325 seems more locked-in due to its winglets and larger surface area.
For reference:
Phantasm Stabilizer 340 Turbo-Tail surface area: 184 cm2
Phantasm Stabilizer 325 surface area: 202 cm2

Based on that, it feels like the logical step would be to move from the PS325 to the PS340, not the other way around. Am I thinking about this correctly? Has anyone here tested both? I am very happy with the PS325 paired with the PTM 730, as the setup is extremely fast with plenty of glide, but would like to try the PS340...

Good winds!

This makes me want to try the 325. I used the 340 for 25ish sessions, but I couldn't lean and turn hard without the tail blowing out. I've been on the 360 which has a much lower stall speed than the 340 and high speed turns are more stable (for me). I'm on the sab 769 (700cm) front wing BTW. It looks like the big winglets on the 325 would track really well.