2019 Slingshot Hover Glide FWIND - Infinity 76
Quick review of this awesome big wing foil - picked it up from Jesper at simmerstyle.com.au
Quality of the product is impressive, the carbon wings are lighter than last year. It's a great looking piece of kit.
Setup is super easy and it flies without any shimming or adjustments necessary.
The inverted gull wing shape Infinity 76cm 1534 cm2 front wing is huge - it has great lift as you would expect, so super early foiling.
Awesome stability and predictability at low speed make it a perfect choice for learning to foil.
A mate was getting stable relaxed 200m+ flights with no bad crashes in his first hour of windfoiling - and that was with a pretty full-on 20 knot breeze and big chop.
The big wing is also amazing for more advanced riders for freeriding big chop, downwinding ocean swells and riding small waves - you can really pump the swells and feel the energy in the water. It's super maneuverable and turns in a flash.
Cranks upwind at crazy angles even with a wave sail - to counter the lift from the big wing you throw your weight over your front leg which settles the foil to a predictable stable height - flying over big ocean chop is effortless.
Carving swells back downwind is for me the most fun of all, pumping the foil with my feet while luffing the sail, feeling every boost from even small waves. This is where the big wing really shines as it maintains height even when you lose wind power.
I've done 21 knots which is respectable for such a big wing - handy to have decent speed to fly upwind but downwind there's actually no point going fast - the fun is staying on the swells not out-running them.
The foil is so predictable the wind range is huge - I've used it with a 5.3 wave sail in a single ocean session where the wind increased from 10 knots to about 24 knots.
Big wings with small sails make all those choppy waters that were a pain to sail with conventional slalom/freeride gear awesome fun and when the waves are too small for conventional wavesailing I'm still having a blast.
I think you have convinced me j.j
does jesper have any in stock ?
and do you reckon I would be better off with the shorter mast as a beginner.
will be putting it in a starboard formula 162 ltr
Rob - go for it, the big wing is awesome. I would get the 90cm mast.
If Jesper doesn't have any foils in stock I'm pretty sure he can get them in a couple of days.
And he should be able to lend you the 30cm and 60 cm training masts.
My mate had about 15 minutes on the 38cm mast then swapped to the 61 cm mast for the rest of his first session.
He reckons he's going straight to the 90cm mast next session - the wing is that stable.
He also had a formula board - he couldn't get into the front strap as it was too far out on the rail and you ride these wings with an upright stance.
So either move the straps inboard (i just use 18mm plywood squares and treated timber wood screws to fix the straps ) or take the straps off completely.
That's what my mate did - but he's a surfer...
I find it weird without straps.
Anyway - let me know how you go
Hi Ratz
The original 2019 package comes with the 61cm mast.
I have been swapping the 61cm to the 90cm mast, if sailors wanted this instead as the start package.
Also I got some very handy Flight School Masts in different lengths, that I lent out for free and this really accelerate your learning curve and takes the 'edge off' the first days of practice. As mentioned the progress is very fast as the Slingshot foils as are so stable and you will be using the longer masts in no time.
To get an extra mast in a different length, is not to much $ by the way
Hi Azymuth
Which board have you been using when you go out foiling ?
Looks a little like a JP ?
Im thinking of buying a second and JP Slalom 78 2015 , I'm wondering if the board would work for foiling ?
Hi Azymuth
Which board have you been using when you go out foiling ?
Looks a little like a JP ?
Im thinking of buying a second and JP Slalom 78 2015 , I'm wondering if the board would work for foiling ?
Hey Greg
I use a modified Isonic 121 and a modified 95l wave board.
The JP Slalom 78 looks fine - has a deep Tuttle box.
Good width for up-hauling and getting up on the foil in light winds - great size for free-ride foils.
You might want to add inboard foot-straps as you progress.
I don't race foil - but if you want to go that way you might need a wider board.
Hi JJ,
Slugger here was great to read your review and as such visited Jesper to check out the foil, very impressed with the build quality and overall design / features so bought and had my first ride at Majestic point today and loved it. The lift is amazing I've been using the NP Ali and was just too heavy for it.
Looking forward to my next flight.??
^^^
Hey Simon - awesome you got a Slingshot Infinity 76 and had a great session. Big wings with small sails are too much fun
And I reckon the fun goes up another level carving swells downwind, flying back upwind and repeating...
Sailed Jurien Bay today was a gusty 12 to 20 knots inside the bay. Slingshot infinity 76 and a 4.5.
So much fun so much to learn!!
Simon
^^^^^ Super relaxed glide Simon - amazing for only your second session.
The Slingshot 76 big wings are just superb at light wind downwinding, silently gliding down the swells - flying along with the downwinder sups and surf skis
I'd be amazed if there aren't heaps of windfoilers out there sharing the stoke by the end of summer.
SSW 8-14 knots - 1m swell - 5m wave sail
^^^^^ Super relaxed glide Simon - amazing for only your second session.
The Slingshot 76 big wings are just superb at light wind downwinding, silently gliding down the swells - flying along with the downwinder sups and surf skis
I'd be amazed if there aren't heaps of windfoilers out there sharing the stoke by the end of summer.
SSW 8-14 knots - 1m swell - 5m wave sail
Looking good Simon, what size starboard are you using?
I've noticed As Jj said I'm needing to bring my back foot in board more as your pic depicts.
I need to get some ocean practice in as I've only been on the estuary so far,
Happy foiling fellas
Hi Slugger, board is a Formula 136. I took all the straps off as they were way to outboard. Makes the board difficult to carry at 1meter wide
The Slingshot Hoverglide Infinity 76 flies upwind effortlessly and carves back downwind superbly
ENE 10-15 knots, Simmer 2XC 6m, Isonic 121
Hi Ratz
The original 2019 package comes with the 61cm mast.
I have been swapping the 61cm to the 90cm mast, if sailors wanted this instead as the start package.
Also I got some very handy Flight School Masts in different lengths, that I lent out for free and this really accelerate your learning curve and takes the 'edge off' the first days of practice. As mentioned the progress is very fast as the Slingshot foils as are so stable and you will be using the longer masts in no time.
To get an extra mast in a different length, is not to much $ by the way
Hi,
I have the 90cm mast .. tried just once and I get too much lift and can't control de foil .. can you tell me on what position of the fuse ( B or C ) you put de mast ?
I have the Naish Hover 122 board.
Thanks.
Hi Jaume,
We sail with the Infinity 76 in the B position. It is important to remember though that we are also sailing Slingshot Wizard boards which are obviously going to be balanced with a Slingshot Foil.
It is possible that you are simply sailing too back foot heavy which would explain your complaint of "too much lift"
You could try moving the mast back if the Naish has track mounts, or possibly try the Infinity 76 in the A Position.
Alternatively use your front strap but place your rear foot infront of the rear straps, this has the effect of moving your weight forward allowing you better control of the lift.
Check out Slingshots Foil Acadamy for professional advice
And practice practice practice
180+ sessions and can't fault the Infinity 76 wing - it's epic.
Awesome morning river cruise with Simon, flying upwind and carving back downwind together in a 10-15 knot easterly.
Foiling is definitely no fad - it just gets better and better
Wizard 105 & 125, 5.9 Simmer wavesails
180+ sessions and can't fault the Infinity 76 wing - it's epic.
Awesome morning river cruise with Simon, flying upwind and carving back downwind together in a 10-15 knot easterly.
Foiling is definitely no fad - it just gets better and better
Wizard 105 & 125, 5.9 Simmer wavesails
Nice track, cool seeing you rip on those smallish sails. What do you think the performance would be like with the 76 in C position with a sail like 9.9 and a bigger board like the jp 135. I realize the biggest sail size recommended is 8.6 on this board. I'm only 65kgs so maybe when I get some more TOW with this kit I will give the monster a try
Hi Can17
Did you have a chance to test it out yet.
It would be interesting to hear
I'm surprised that you would take a 9.9m sail on the Hoverglide with 76 Infinity wing set up.
Also with your 65kg in mind. I mean I know you want to maximize the very light conditions and time on water.
It would be interesting if you could test it against and try a no cam 6.5 or so in same wind conditions? You might be surprised.
In my view there is a time where the bigger sail 'will work against you', even for really light wind. As it become big and heavy and might as you say be a bit 'over sized' for the board.
The only set up would be a full race board (max size), and a max size full carbon race foil, that could take advantage of the very light condition with the 9.9.
The Hoverglide is really set up for low end early lift and we do find it to work brilliant and mostly using 5.8-6.0 for the light conditions. Those sails also allow us to pump very efficient to get us up on the foils (Wave - freeride sails. No cam)
This in position B (standard position) on the Hoverglide.
In comparison the race guys would be on 9.0 or 10.0 for same conditions, but on full size raceboards / foils. That match the power of the sail size.
The bigger sail sizes can be good to power up the foil for sailors with 'less pumping skills', or heavier sailors, but with some ok skills, then I can't see the bigger sails is needed (8, 9, 10m). This is of course with the Hoverglide set up in mind.
For real light consistent wind (10-12 kts), we do at times change up to the 86cm Infinity wing (instead of changing up in sail size). The 86cm wing you can with good skills 'pump' it through really light patches of wind (with no or very little power in the sail).
Also I would have to mention the benefit of much easier jibing / tacking / uphauling / water starting / rigging with the smaller sails.
Sorry I didn't try in position 'C' yet on the fuselage. The whole package just worked so well out of the box on the recommended settings, so it has been left there since day 1 :)
Anyway everything is still 'relatively new', so it is good to hear different sailors setups and findings,,
Cheers
Hi Can17
Did you have a chance to test it out yet.
It would be interesting to hear
I'm surprised that you would take a 9.9m sail on the Hoverglide with 76 Infinity wing set up.
Also with your 65kg in mind. I mean I know you want to maximize the very light conditions and time on water.
It would be interesting if you could test it against and try a no cam 6.5 or so in same wind conditions? You might be surprised.
In my view there is a time where the bigger sail 'will work against you', even for really light wind. As it become big and heavy and might as you say be a bit 'over sized' for the board.
The only set up would be a full race board (max size), and a max size full carbon race foil, that could take advantage of the very light condition with the 9.9.
The Hoverglide is really set up for low end early lift and we do find it to work brilliant and mostly using 5.8-6.0 for the light conditions. Those sails also allow us to pump very efficient to get us up on the foils (Wave - freeride sails. No cam)
This in position B (standard position) on the Hoverglide.
In comparison the race guys would be on 9.0 or 10.0 for same conditions, but on full size raceboards / foils. That match the power of the sail size.
The bigger sail sizes can be good to power up the foil for sailors with 'less pumping skills', or heavier sailors, but with some ok skills, then I can't see the bigger sails is needed (8, 9, 10m). This is of course with the Hoverglide set up in mind.
For real light consistent wind (10-12 kts), we do at times change up to the 86cm Infinity wing (instead of changing up in sail size). The 86cm wing you can with good skills 'pump' it through really light patches of wind (with no or very little power in the sail).
Also I would have to mention the benefit of much easier jibing / tacking / uphauling / water starting / rigging with the smaller sails.
Sorry I didn't try in position 'C' yet on the fuselage. The whole package just worked so well out of the box on the recommended settings, so it has been left there since day 1 :)
Anyway everything is still 'relatively new', so it is good to hear different sailors setups and findings,,
Cheers
I totally agree. Thanks for the detailed info on this subject.
I am yet to try any combinations yet. I just picked up the jp 135 fws and Hover glide fwind with the 90cm mast yesterday. I am so excited to get on this kit. Hoping to mostly use it in light wind with a 7.5 twin cam. It should be a HUGE step up from my formula board and pryde aluminium foil. I measured the length from the closest fin bolt to the start of he mast track and it was like 98cm on the jp! On my formula it was 110cm. One thing that surprised me is the tuttle head for the slingshot foil fit so nicely into the board and the screw holes line up perfect. It is a match made in heaven
Regarding the 9.9 just curious to see what it does with a less wide board, shorter profile and less volume. I tried it on the old kit in like 6/7 knots, it wanted to start to lift but I could not keep it up as the centre of lift was way too far back. Can't see that being a problem with the new set up but weight would be a big factor on the 9.9. It wouldn't hurt my feelings to get rid of the 9.9 and free up some space
Will give some feedback when I get more competent with this kit.
Did you drill out the bolt holes on the JP to fit the beefy Slingshot 10mm Tuttle bolts or are you using the adapters?
Did you drill out the bolt holes on the JP to fit the beefy Slingshot 10mm Tuttle bolts or are you using the adapters?
I'm Using the adaptors. The tuttle head fit really well, so I'm hoping it will be alright. I've heard Wyatt Miller say bolts bent/broke with m6s. But he must have been doing some extreme stuff(i.e back loops)...which I won't be doing. Not sure that I need m10s as I haven't heard any bad stores of bolts breaking, that tool that it comes with might be good to use on my car tires though. Only time will tell...will leash it in the meantime. My store said this was the best fitting deep tuttle head in all of the boards...so shows great quality and attention to detail and I love the flange too. It is also ribbed with lines on the front and back of the head. Nice job Slingshot
Hi Guys, am very tempted by the infinity foil setup. One thing I'm hesitant about are the materials. Are you dismantling the setup after each session and rinsing the parts? I'm worried about corrosion as I am usually too tired/lazy to do all that.
Hi Guys, am very tempted by the infinity foil setup. One thing I'm hesitant about are the materials. Are you dismantling the setup after each session and rinsing the parts? I'm worried about corrosion as I am usually too tired/lazy to do all that.
The only thing i dissemble is the the screws to the from foil mast to fuselage. I have lanolin and teflon tape on all the bolts and check them every now and then to see if they are seizing. Nothing yet. I didnot lubricate the fuselage to wing connection and am starting to see some oxidation along that connector for one of my wings. Not sure if that is representative of what is going on between wing and fuselage or not. I have been using that wing for 18 months and have not need to remove it.
Hi Guys, am very tempted by the infinity foil setup. One thing I'm hesitant about are the materials. Are you dismantling the setup after each session and rinsing the parts? I'm worried about corrosion as I am usually too tired/lazy to do all that.
The only thing i dissemble is the the screws to the from foil mast to fuselage. I have lanolin and teflon tape on all the bolts and check them every now and then to see if they are seizing. Nothing yet. I didnot lubricate the fuselage to wing connection and am starting to see some oxidation along that connector for one of my wings. Not sure if that is representative of what is going on between wing and fuselage or not. I have been using that wing for 18 months and have not need to remove it.
Thanks for your response. Have bit the bullet and have an Armstrong setup coming. No issue of corrosion with their setup but paying for it. Some day after all this madness I'll get a chance to have it delivered and take it for a ride!
Hi Guys, am very tempted by the infinity foil setup. One thing I'm hesitant about are the materials. Are you dismantling the setup after each session and rinsing the parts? I'm worried about corrosion as I am usually too tired/lazy to do all that.
The only thing i dissemble is the the screws to the from foil mast to fuselage. I have lanolin and teflon tape on all the bolts and check them every now and then to see if they are seizing. Nothing yet. I didnot lubricate the fuselage to wing connection and am starting to see some oxidation along that connector for one of my wings. Not sure if that is representative of what is going on between wing and fuselage or not. I have been using that wing for 18 months and have not need to remove it.
Thanks for your response. Have bit the bullet and have an Armstrong setup coming. No issue of corrosion with their setup but paying for it. Some day after all this madness I'll get a chance to have it delivered and take it for a ride!
Hi Guys, am very tempted by the infinity foil setup. One thing I'm hesitant about are the materials. Are you dismantling the setup after each session and rinsing the parts? I'm worried about corrosion as I am usually too tired/lazy to do all that.
The only thing i dissemble is the the screws to the from foil mast to fuselage. I have lanolin and teflon tape on all the bolts and check them every now and then to see if they are seizing. Nothing yet. I didnot lubricate the fuselage to wing connection and am starting to see some oxidation along that connector for one of my wings. Not sure if that is representative of what is going on between wing and fuselage or not. I have been using that wing for 18 months and have not need to remove it.
Thanks for your response. Have bit the bullet and have an Armstrong setup coming. No issue of corrosion with their setup but paying for it. Some day after all this madness I'll get a chance to have it delivered and take it for a ride!
First foil? welcome to the family
Have joined the club
First foil on Slingshot 105 and 76 wing thanks to Jesper at Sail Repair WA with Azymuth.
10-12 knots average and wouldn't have bothered on the slapper but had a great cruisy session. Strange cruising down wind having a conversation.
Awesome upwind , downwind angles and on a 5m sail setup feels stable , balanced yet nimble and making first few foiling gybes.
Great attention to detail in the wing kit bag with zipped component sections, neoprene wing covers, tools, tuttle and pedestal adapter.
Thanks to JJ for assembly advice and Tefgel.
Great surf straps on the board with easy adjustments and comfy deck pad. Looks good too.
Frothing for light winds
Have joined the club
First foil on Slingshot 105 and 76 wing thanks to Jesper at Sail Repair WA with Azymuth.
10-12 knots average and wouldn't have bothered on the slapper but had a great cruisy session. Strange cruising down wind having a conversation.
Awesome upwind , downwind angles and on a 5m sail setup feels stable , balanced yet nimble and making first few foiling gybes.
Great attention to detail in the wing kit bag with zipped component sections, neoprene wing covers, tools, tuttle and pedestal adapter.
Thanks to JJ for assembly advice and Tefgel.
Great surf straps on the board with easy adjustments and comfy deck pad. Looks good too.
Frothing for light winds
105/76 is such a great combo. Hopefully, you don't go fully down the rabbit hole like I have. I am probably getting 25 foiling sessions for every 1 slapper session. Admittedly my ratio isn't fair because many of those foiling sessions were unslappable
Hi Guys, am very tempted by the infinity foil setup. One thing I'm hesitant about are the materials. Are you dismantling the setup after each session and rinsing the parts? I'm worried about corrosion as I am usually too tired/lazy to do all that.
I use tefgel and have been disassembling the whole setup after 6-8 sessions. Every time I finish, I'm like "well, that was a waste of time." The tefgel is always still thick with 100% coverage on all bolts.
For me, the bigger issue seems to be the wing to fuselage connecting and the mast cap. I hadn't been using grease on that and it can definitely start to corrode the aluminum there. These days, it's not as much of an issue as I'm changing wings every few sessions.