New custom toy from Tillo International, just some cosmetic and foot straps plugs position changes from previous version. Ready for shipping

Very nice Dimensions?

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Mr Keen said..
Very nice Dimensions?

114 L 175x80, just like previous board about a year ago. I couldn't find anything wrong with the
specs for me, this one stays in Miami, while it's older sibling resides in Cabarete.

Very cool

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miamiwindsurfe said..



New custom toy from Tillo International, just some cosmetic and foot straps plugs position changes from previous version. Ready for shipping

I like it

Nice!!!

How are you guys riding with the mast base so close to yuor front foot. Don't you feel like you are going to get pulled over the front. I have tried it and hated it.

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mr love said..
How are you guys riding with the mast base so close to yuor front foot. Don't you feel like you are going to get pulled over the front. I have tried it and hated it.

Very small sails, no harness, not using foot straps. Ride is very liberating and easy

For me, UJ 8-12 cm from front straps. Back strap over foil mast gets me on a smaller sail sooner.

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miamiwindsurfe said..

mr love said..
How are you guys riding with the mast base so close to yuor front foot. Don't you feel like you are going to get pulled over the front. I have tried it and hated it.

Very small sails, no harness, not using foot straps. Ride is very liberating and easy

Absolutely no problem to use harness and foot straps with such a layout. The rig ends up being beside you, which makes it much easier to depower it while wave riding, and the rig feels like it's connected to the foil, super comfy. Works well with relatively big sails as well. 3.5 on the picture, and 5.6 in the video clip.

I will start easing it back and see how I go. I do like being able to get upwind well as I sail upwind for a couple of Km then chase swell downwind. Poert Phillip bay is a swell chasing playground.....

Mast track so far back....?

Lucky I gave 10 inches to Mr Love then huh.
He will get used to it

anywayyy - The paint scheme on that Tillo is amazing, really well thought out.

I've always absolutely adored the Tillo Intl. logo; such a vibe.
Awesome paint scheme, should be super fun

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mr love said..
I will start easing it back and see how I go. I do like being able to get upwind well as I sail upwind for a couple of Km then chase swell downwind. Poert Phillip bay is a swell chasing playground.....

I'd be cautious getting a board made with the mast base super close to the footstraps.
Compact geometry has its place for maneuverability and relaxed pitch control as Simon has shown, but forward works better for me for ultimate controllability if overpowered and chasing speed in rougher conditions.
Today for example, gusts just under 30 knots, 4m sail & 720cm2 wing, found it tricky to get the power down and sketchy to build any speed - moved the base forward about 8cm to the position in the pix below and it was noticeably easier to charge up/downwind.

Rider weight/strength, foiling ability will also affect placement but thought I'd share my experiences

This is a third board with the same geometry over almost 3 years and I do a lot of testing. The goal is mainly freewave board that works from 5-35 kn and super easy and manuveral, I put front foot straps all the way forward so they are out of the way , mainly use to carry/ climb on the board and on very rare occasion when conditions are extreme and I need a bit of extra comfort...Board is wider than most similar ones, only reef warrior boards are compact and 80 cm wide , width gives extra leverage against the sail, another commonality is reef warrior also uses foils with short fuselages and smaller sails.

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azymuth said..

Hey Azzy
where do you get these footstraps? Cheers

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azymuth said..

mr love said..
I will start easing it back and see how I go. I do like being able to get upwind well as I sail upwind for a couple of Km then chase swell downwind. Poert Phillip bay is a swell chasing playground.....

I'd be cautious getting a board made with the mast base super close to the footstraps.
Compact geometry has its place for maneuverability and relaxed pitch control as Simon has shown, but forward works better for me for ultimate controllability if overpowered and chasing speed in rougher conditions.
Today for example, gusts just under 30 knots, 4m sail & 720cm2 wing, found it tricky to get the power down and sketchy to build any speed - moved the base forward about 8cm to the position in the pix below and it was noticeably easier to charge up/downwind.

Rider weight/strength, foiling ability will also affect placement but thought I'd share my experiences

Aside from being the best freeride windfoiler in the new world, I think Greg Glaziers speed is related to his wider geometry and outboard front straps. In Baja he was consistently at least 3 knots faster than me, with smaller sails.

My suspicion is that he can power up his sail more than I can with compact geometry because the longer moment arm on his Mast foot pressure allows him to hold down the increasingly lifting foil as it goes faster.

Although he does ride 30cm longer mast than I do and I feel like I need the compact geometry to more easily adjust foil height to the swell.

Something like this will do me.


www.surffx.com.au/products/dakine-cobra-half-hook

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mr love said..
I will start easing it back and see how I go. I do like being able to get upwind well as I sail upwind for a couple of Km then chase swell downwind. Poert Phillip bay is a swell chasing playground.....

I miss Port Phillip bay swell . Don't miss the cold though

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Imax1 said..

mr love said..
I will start easing it back and see how I go. I do like being able to get upwind well as I sail upwind for a couple of Km then chase swell downwind. Poert Phillip bay is a swell chasing playground.....

I miss Port Phillip bay swell . Don't miss the cold though

Yep....a bit crisp today....

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berowne said..
Something like this will do me.


www.surffx.com.au/products/dakine-cobra-half-hook

Those dakine half straps are terrible IMO, get the slingshot ones, much more padding and seem to have a bit more give

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azymuth said..

mr love said..
I will start easing it back and see how I go. I do like being able to get upwind well as I sail upwind for a couple of Km then chase swell downwind. Poert Phillip bay is a swell chasing playground.....

I'd be cautious getting a board made with the mast base super close to the footstraps.
Compact geometry has its place for maneuverability and relaxed pitch control as Simon has shown, but forward works better for me for ultimate controllability if overpowered and chasing speed in rougher conditions.
Today for example, gusts just under 30 knots, 4m sail & 720cm2 wing, found it tricky to get the power down and sketchy to build any speed - moved the base forward about 8cm to the position in the pix below and it was noticeably easier to charge up/downwind.

Rider weight/strength, foiling ability will also affect placement but thought I'd share my experiences

I'm with you JJ, I've got my mast base as far forward as possible over 15 knots.
In fact I'm going to redrill my fuse to move the foil back about 65mm, in affect giving me a longer mast track. I'm hooked in & loading up the harness at 20 knots & only just comfortable??

Remember you can cut lift by riding the board on the windward rail... which will turn upwind, so keep the weight on the mast base to push the nose away and you can go straight at over 20kts, and use your rear foot to flatten the board if you need to go up... or the rail foot to dip.

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azymuth said..

mr love said..
I will start easing it back and see how I go. I do like being able to get upwind well as I sail upwind for a couple of Km then chase swell downwind. Poert Phillip bay is a swell chasing playground.....

I'd be cautious getting a board made with the mast base super close to the footstraps.
Compact geometry has its place for maneuverability and relaxed pitch control as Simon has shown, but forward works better for me for ultimate controllability if overpowered and chasing speed in rougher conditions.
Today for example, gusts just under 30 knots, 4m sail & 720cm2 wing, found it tricky to get the power down and sketchy to build any speed - moved the base forward about 8cm to the position in the pix below and it was noticeably easier to charge up/downwind.

Rider weight/strength, foiling ability will also affect placement but thought I'd share my experiences

I'm with you JJ, I've got my mast base as far forward as possible over 15 knots.
In fact I'm going to redrill my fuse to move the foil back about 65mm, in affect giving me a longer mast track. I'm hooked in & loading up the harness at 20 knots & only just comfortable??

Try shimming the stabilizer before you go moving the foil around.

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Grantmac said..

AUS 808 said..

azymuth said..

mr love said..
I will start easing it back and see how I go. I do like being able to get upwind well as I sail upwind for a couple of Km then chase swell downwind. Poert Phillip bay is a swell chasing playground.....

I'd be cautious getting a board made with the mast base super close to the footstraps.
Compact geometry has its place for maneuverability and relaxed pitch control as Simon has shown, but forward works better for me for ultimate controllability if overpowered and chasing speed in rougher conditions.
Today for example, gusts just under 30 knots, 4m sail & 720cm2 wing, found it tricky to get the power down and sketchy to build any speed - moved the base forward about 8cm to the position in the pix below and it was noticeably easier to charge up/downwind.

Rider weight/strength, foiling ability will also affect placement but thought I'd share my experiences

I'm with you JJ, I've got my mast base as far forward as possible over 15 knots.
In fact I'm going to redrill my fuse to move the foil back about 65mm, in affect giving me a longer mast track. I'm hooked in & loading up the harness at 20 knots & only just comfortable??

Try shimming the stabilizer before you go moving the foil around.

Done that ??
Maybe put it back to standard will help??

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AUS 808 said..

Grantmac said..

AUS 808 said..

azymuth said..

mr love said..
I will start easing it back and see how I go. I do like being able to get upwind well as I sail upwind for a couple of Km then chase swell downwind. Poert Phillip bay is a swell chasing playground.....

I'd be cautious getting a board made with the mast base super close to the footstraps.
Compact geometry has its place for maneuverability and relaxed pitch control as Simon has shown, but forward works better for me for ultimate controllability if overpowered and chasing speed in rougher conditions.
Today for example, gusts just under 30 knots, 4m sail & 720cm2 wing, found it tricky to get the power down and sketchy to build any speed - moved the base forward about 8cm to the position in the pix below and it was noticeably easier to charge up/downwind.

Rider weight/strength, foiling ability will also affect placement but thought I'd share my experiences

I'm with you JJ, I've got my mast base as far forward as possible over 15 knots.
In fact I'm going to redrill my fuse to move the foil back about 65mm, in affect giving me a longer mast track. I'm hooked in & loading up the harness at 20 knots & only just comfortable??

Try shimming the stabilizer before you go moving the foil around.

Done that ??
Maybe put it back to standard will help??

Which way do you have it shimmed?

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Grantmac said..

AUS 808 said..

Grantmac said..

AUS 808 said..

azymuth said..

mr love said..
I will start easing it back and see how I go. I do like being able to get upwind well as I sail upwind for a couple of Km then chase swell downwind. Poert Phillip bay is a swell chasing playground.....

I'd be cautious getting a board made with the mast base super close to the footstraps.
Compact geometry has its place for maneuverability and relaxed pitch control as Simon has shown, but forward works better for me for ultimate controllability if overpowered and chasing speed in rougher conditions.
Today for example, gusts just under 30 knots, 4m sail & 720cm2 wing, found it tricky to get the power down and sketchy to build any speed - moved the base forward about 8cm to the position in the pix below and it was noticeably easier to charge up/downwind.

Rider weight/strength, foiling ability will also affect placement but thought I'd share my experiences

I'm with you JJ, I've got my mast base as far forward as possible over 15 knots.
In fact I'm going to redrill my fuse to move the foil back about 65mm, in affect giving me a longer mast track. I'm hooked in & loading up the harness at 20 knots & only just comfortable??

Try shimming the stabilizer before you go moving the foil around.

Done that ??
Maybe put it back to standard will help??

Which way do you have it shimmed?

The front of the Stab is packed up with 2 X 8mm flat washers, from memory it felt better at the time.
A fellow foiler checked the angle in comparison with the front wing & suggested it needed that much.

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AUS 808 said..

Grantmac said..

AUS 808 said..

Grantmac said..

AUS 808 said..

azymuth said..

mr love said..
I will start easing it back and see how I go. I do like being able to get upwind well as I sail upwind for a couple of Km then chase swell downwind. Poert Phillip bay is a swell chasing playground.....

I'd be cautious getting a board made with the mast base super close to the footstraps.
Compact geometry has its place for maneuverability and relaxed pitch control as Simon has shown, but forward works better for me for ultimate controllability if overpowered and chasing speed in rougher conditions.
Today for example, gusts just under 30 knots, 4m sail & 720cm2 wing, found it tricky to get the power down and sketchy to build any speed - moved the base forward about 8cm to the position in the pix below and it was noticeably easier to charge up/downwind.

Rider weight/strength, foiling ability will also affect placement but thought I'd share my experiences

I'm with you JJ, I've got my mast base as far forward as possible over 15 knots.
In fact I'm going to redrill my fuse to move the foil back about 65mm, in affect giving me a longer mast track. I'm hooked in & loading up the harness at 20 knots & only just comfortable??

Try shimming the stabilizer before you go moving the foil around.

Done that ??
Maybe put it back to standard will help??

Which way do you have it shimmed?

The front of the Stab is packed up with 2 X 8mm flat washers, from memory it felt better at the time.
A fellow foiler checked the angle in comparison with the front wing & suggested it needed that much.

Top or bottom mounted stab?

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Grantmac said..

AUS 808 said..

Grantmac said..

AUS 808 said..

Grantmac said..

AUS 808 said..

azymuth said..

mr love said..
I will start easing it back and see how I go. I do like being able to get upwind well as I sail upwind for a couple of Km then chase swell downwind. Poert Phillip bay is a swell chasing playground.....

I'd be cautious getting a board made with the mast base super close to the footstraps.
Compact geometry has its place for maneuverability and relaxed pitch control as Simon has shown, but forward works better for me for ultimate controllability if overpowered and chasing speed in rougher conditions.
Today for example, gusts just under 30 knots, 4m sail & 720cm2 wing, found it tricky to get the power down and sketchy to build any speed - moved the base forward about 8cm to the position in the pix below and it was noticeably easier to charge up/downwind.

Rider weight/strength, foiling ability will also affect placement but thought I'd share my experiences

I'm with you JJ, I've got my mast base as far forward as possible over 15 knots.
In fact I'm going to redrill my fuse to move the foil back about 65mm, in affect giving me a longer mast track. I'm hooked in & loading up the harness at 20 knots & only just comfortable??

Try shimming the stabilizer before you go moving the foil around.

Done that ??
Maybe put it back to standard will help??

Which way do you have it shimmed?

The front of the Stab is packed up with 2 X 8mm flat washers, from memory it felt better at the time.
A fellow foiler checked the angle in comparison with the front wing & suggested it needed that much.

Top or bottom mounted stab?

That would have to be top mount ??

Those shims should be reducing front foot pressure gain with speed.
Which foil is this?