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Moses 1000 foil review

Created by dejavu dejavu  > 9 months ago, 19 Feb 2021
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dejavu
dejavu

825 posts

19 Feb 2021 5:41am
Looks like a great wing for both wind foiling and wind winging.

allesad
allesad

71 posts

19 Feb 2021 10:18pm
FYI, does not fit the Windsurf Fuselage 900 or 838 fuselage that most windfoilers use...Fits the kitesurf fuse
dejavu
dejavu

825 posts

20 Feb 2021 7:18am
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allesad said..
FYI, does not fit the Windsurf Fuselage 900 or 838 fuselage that most windfoilers use...Fits the kitesurf fuse


Here's the solution:

www.mackiteboarding.com/moses-fuselage-to-wing-adapter-plate/
t36
t36

t36

100 posts

21 Feb 2021 2:21am
I use the W1000 Moses on the 115 cm Fuselage with the 400 er stabilizer (421 is working, too).
I use the W800 Moses still on the 115 cm Fuselage, but will order now the new shorter FW1050-F (its an additional front part fuselage for the 115 fuselage - better for slalom.

Both fuselages (F115 and FW1050) fit all race front wings W1000, W800 and W671.
sunsetsailboards
sunsetsailboards

522 posts

9 Mar 2021 11:23am
that sucker is sharp! do you sail with the trailing edge and corners so sharp? got one for winging, but they sent me the wrong fuselage... gonna have to wait a few days to try it out with the 400 stabilizer
Steve Charles
Steve Charles

QLD

1240 posts

9 Mar 2021 6:51pm
Yes it is freakin sharp as. I tried sanding the trailing edges to make them less sharp but didn't make much difference.
dejavu
dejavu

825 posts

9 Mar 2021 11:39pm
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sunsetsailboards said..
that sucker is sharp! do you sail with the trailing edge and corners so sharp? got one for winging, but they sent me the wrong fuselage... gonna have to wait a few days to try it out with the 400 stabilizer


Can you please let us know what you think of this wing? I'm thinking of getting one and using it for both wind foiling and wind winging.
Thanks.
sunsetsailboards
sunsetsailboards

522 posts

17 Mar 2021 12:35am
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dejavu said..

sunsetsailboards said..
that sucker is sharp! do you sail with the trailing edge and corners so sharp? got one for winging, but they sent me the wrong fuselage... gonna have to wait a few days to try it out with the 400 stabilizer



Can you please let us know what you think of this wing? I'm thinking of getting one and using it for both wind foiling and wind winging.
Thanks.


will do. just put it together but was blowing 30+ yesterday and then zero. maybe will get to try it tomorrow. meanwhile....

CoreAS
CoreAS

923 posts

17 Mar 2021 1:28am
Not for me, I have landed on a wing and kicked a front wing before and that Moses will "fillet" you

My 6.4 sling wing has a nice patch where it touched on a moses rear wing, so not a fan!
dejavu
dejavu

825 posts

17 Mar 2021 4:34am
Maybe sanding down the edges is the way to go. Armstrong has a similar HA foil coming to market soon -- it will be interesting to see how sharp its edges are.
sunsetsailboards
sunsetsailboards

522 posts

30 Mar 2021 2:16am
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dejavu said..

sunsetsailboards said..
that sucker is sharp! do you sail with the trailing edge and corners so sharp? got one for winging, but they sent me the wrong fuselage... gonna have to wait a few days to try it out with the 400 stabilizer



Can you please let us know what you think of this wing? I'm thinking of getting one and using it for both wind foiling and wind winging.
Thanks.


I have 3 days on the W1000 now. I have it paired w/ the S400, 647mm kite fuselage, and 90cm Project Cedrus mast on the Fanatic Sky Wing 5'0" 75l or 5'4" 95l. I weigh about 80kg

Session 1: decent wind on the Echo 4m & 95l board. first impression it was not that hard to get going. maybe need to go a little more off the wind. I had to mount the foil all the way forward in the track. more pitchy fore and aft either due to the shorter fulelage or smaller stab. was a little weird at first. I could ride the foil as normal but was not feeling that comfortable. Glide and speed are really nice, but have to be more careful in the turns. my first tack I couldn't believe how much speed I came out with or how tight the arc was. I also came out very high on the mast. Definitely some good things going on with this foil, but I wouldn't say I was in love with it. Things i do like are the glide and easy/efficient pump. Feels like I don't have to work to pump. Can do a variety of cadence on the pump and it feels good.

Session 2: More wind, Echo 4m. smaller board. much of the newness of the foil is gone, and I'm more comfortable and having more fun on it. got a long ferry wake ride (maybe 1km) and it felt nice and lean. easy to pump to get into different sections or to stay in the pocket. Transitions are feeling good and I'm able to push the foil in the turns a little more.

next session was on the W950. then...

Session 3: even more wind 25kt+. Unit 4m and 75l Sky Wing. Now having a session on the W950 in between w/ the S483 and 710mm fuselage, I appreciate the nimbleness of the twitchier setup. The W950 is very nice too, but I think I might like the W1000 more for the glide and ease of pump. Was surfing windswells and it was very nice to have a loose feel and fun to zigzag b/w heel side and toe side riding. felt pretty natural.

If I had footstraps on my board, I can see how this thing would be good for jumping.

Do I like it? Yes.
dejavu
dejavu

825 posts

30 Mar 2021 2:33am
Thanks for the review! (Might be better placed in the wing foil section.)

With respect to wing foiling: -- About how much more wind do you need to get on foil with the W1000 than the 950?

Will you use the W1000 in lighter winds with a bigger wind wing? Any idea of its potential in light winds with a large wind wing?

Will a two foil quiver work -- say the 1100 or 950 for light winds and the W1000 for 15 knots and up? (Yes, I know one would need an adapter for the fuselage so it will accept the W1000.)

Thanks
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