Maximum boom length for foiling duck gybe?

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Sandman1221 > 9 months ago, 11 Mar 2022

Sandman1221

2776 posts

11 Mar 2022 11:24pm

Wondering what is the max. boom length for a foiling duck gybe, thanks!

LeeD

3939 posts

12 Mar 2022 12:38am

After watching old Dave Wells do planing formula duck jibes on a 10.0, I realized there really are no limits when unlimited talent is applied.
Lucky for the rest of us, limits are applied.

Grantmac

2339 posts

12 Mar 2022 2:00am

IQfoil folks are doing them in practice.

Yes, end of last season, as many as 6, IQ sailors were out, and a couple were duck jibing on what looked like 9's.
However....maybe I'm not 23 years old, 6' tall, fit as a fiddle, and a trust funder to boot.

Sandman1221

2776 posts

12 Mar 2022 8:58am

Oh man you guys are making me feel like a beginner! Okay, then a 4.5 with a 160 boom should be easy then.

aeroegnr

1747 posts

12 Mar 2022 9:06am

I can duck my 5.0 pretty easily and just practice flipping the sail, non planing, and I've tried ducking the IQ 9.0 and that's more skill than I've got at the moment.

Sandman1221

2776 posts

12 Mar 2022 9:11am

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aeroegnr said..
I can duck my 5.0 pretty easily and just practice flipping the sail, non planing, and I've tried ducking the IQ 9.0 and that's more skill than I've got at the moment.

Okay, thanks, will have to give it a try next time with the 4.5.

LeeD

3939 posts

12 Mar 2022 9:24am

Sunset Sailboards was foil ducking his 4.4 by his 30th day....
Not me, though I was ducking by mid 1984 on 85 liter boards.

Sandman1221

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12 Mar 2022 10:16am

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LeeD said..
Sunset Sailboards was foil ducking his 4.4 by his 30th day....
Not me, though I was ducking by mid 1984 on 85 liter boards.

okay, thanks LeeD

WhiteofHeart

798 posts

12 Mar 2022 4:08pm

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Sandman1221 said..
Oh man you guys are making me feel like a beginner! Okay, then a 4.5 with a 160 boom should be easy then.

4.5 is an ideal size to practice, for me, one of the biggest key points in the duck jibes was to duck early, but tbh I feel like duckjibes are easier than regular jibes anyway.

2keen

376 posts

12 Mar 2022 6:03pm

I have seen some big sail ducked but anything 5.0 or under will be easiest. The shorter the boom the easier the duck
Once you know how Duck Gybes aren't difficult BUT they aren't easier than carving, if they were every elite racer would be Duck Gybing on every gybe mark

Daithidmg

53 posts

12 Mar 2022 7:45pm

5.8 with 184 boom is pretty comfy too

Paducah

2792 posts

12 Mar 2022 9:54pm

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2keen said..
I have seen some big sail ducked but anything 5.0 or under will be easiest. The shorter the boom the easier the duck
Once you know how Duck Gybes aren't difficult BUT they aren't easier than carving, if they were every elite racer would be Duck Gybing on every gybe mark

fwiw, I remember Dorian ducking his RS:X downwind several times in lighter planing conditions during the Olympics. Maybe felt like less chance of coming off a plane? That or he was just flexing.

Sandman1221

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13 Mar 2022 5:07am

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WhiteofHeart said..

Sandman1221 said..
Oh man you guys are making me feel like a beginner! Okay, then a 4.5 with a 160 boom should be easy then.

4.5 is an ideal size to practice, for me, one of the biggest key points in the duck jibes was to duck early, but tbh I feel like duckjibes are easier than regular jibes anyway.

Thanks WoH

Sandman1221

2776 posts

13 Mar 2022 5:07am

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interesting, will keep that in mind 2keen, thanks

LeeD

3939 posts

13 Mar 2022 5:14am

A duck jibe depends on clean water and air.
90% of slalom is done with 7 meter or bigger sails.

WhiteofHeart

798 posts

14 Mar 2022 3:35pm

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I meant when using reasonable size sails ofcourse...

LeeD

3939 posts

15 Mar 2022 3:16am

Put simply, the reason pro racing does not employ duck jibes is dirty water and air. It's encountered 95% of the time.

LeeD

3939 posts

15 Mar 2022 3:18am

And ducks need a prescribed arc, and has trouble negotiating downed sailors or changes of direction during the turn.
That's why racing is different than fast freeride.

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