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JP Freefoil 130 vs Hydrofoil 135

Created by surfasaco surfasaco  > 9 months ago, 8 Sep 2020
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surfasaco
surfasaco

12 posts

8 Sep 2020 1:21am
Which one it is easier to learn for first time foil. I've got a NP Glide wind. Thanks.
WhiteofHeart
WhiteofHeart

798 posts

8 Sep 2020 2:07am
Definately the hydrofoil 135. I've used both, and its more stable due to the width and more plug and play due to the tuttle box.
Poimax05
Poimax05

46 posts

8 Sep 2020 8:08am
Hi,

The freefoil 130 has a tuttle box too (as well as long tracks)

It is indeed narrower than the 135 ; width is similar to the hydrofoil 120. It remains unclear to me why JP still offers both model (Freefoil 130 and Hydrofoil 120) they seem to have a significant overlap. I suspect the 120 will disappear.

I have been using my Freefoil 130 about 5 times with a Moses vento, and it's great for learning (it is my fist year). I switched from a formula board to this board, and altough I struggle a bit the first time, I quickly got used to it... It is easy to take bad habits with a Formula board since it is so large and floaty. The optimized swing weight really makes a difference once you fly on the freefoil. The short length is not a problem for uphauling or taking off.

Personnally, I think the freefoil would be a better fit with a glide foil , with sails up to 7.0m

I did not try the hydrofoil 135, but it seems clearly more freerace oriented, and meant to carry larger sails (which does not fit so much with the NP glide program , i.e low aspect foil)

Altough some people will say that wider is better, I do not share this opinion. What matters is to have a board large enough to be able to uphaul without too much challenge. At 80 KG, a 76 cm wide board work pretty well for me, even in choppy water. According to GlisseAttitude, a wider board induces more drag to reach the foil take off speed ; so a narrower board offers the benefit to take off earlier / with less effort if you are using a small sail. Once you fly, the width does seem to help with anything, except achieve more extreme upwind angle.

There is a reason why the Slingshot Wizard is so popular and appreciated for freeriding... and it is not 85 cm wide!


If you're not into racing and prefer small sails, I think the 130 might be a better choice.

Just my 2 cents, I went through the dilemna 2 months ago.

















Poimax05
Poimax05

46 posts

8 Sep 2020 8:08am
Hi,

The freefoil 130 has a tuttle box too (as well as long tracks)

It is indeed narrower than the 135 ; width is similar to the hydrofoil 120. It remains unclear to me why JP still offers both model (Freefoil 130 and Hydrofoil 120) they seem to have a significant overlap. I suspect the 120 will disappear.

I have been using my Freefoil 130 about 5 times with a Moses vento, and it's great for learning (it is my fist year). I switched from a formula board to this board, and altough I struggle a bit the first time, I quickly got used to it... It is easy to take bad habits with a Formula board since it is so large and floaty. The optimized swing weight really makes a difference once you fly on the freefoil. The short length is not a problem for uphauling or taking off.

Personnally, I think the freefoil would be a better fit with a glide foil , with sails up to 7.0m

I did not try the hydrofoil 135, but it seems clearly more freerace oriented, and meant to carry larger sails (which does not fit so much with the NP glide program , i.e low aspect foil)

Altough some people will say that wider is better, I do not share this opinion. What matters is to have a board large enough to be able to uphaul without too much challenge, . At 80 KG, a 76 cm wide board work pretty well for me, even in choppy water. According to GlisseAttitude, a wider board induces more drag to reach the foil take off speed ; so a narrower board (with enough buoyancy) offers the benefit to take off earlier / with less effort if you are using a small sail. Once you fly, the width does seem to help with anything, except achieve more extreme upwind angle.

There is a reason why the Slingshot Wizard is so popular and appreciated for freeriding... and it is not 85 cm wide!


If you're not into racing and prefer small sails, I think the 130 might be a better choice.

Just my 2 cents, I went through the dilemna 2 months ago.















MProject04
MProject04

643 posts

8 Sep 2020 3:27pm
I have a NP glide wind too. Used it with a 75 cm wide freeride board.

I don't think the glide wind is designed for too wide boards. Check the issue they had with testing the NP GW with wider board. www.windsurf.co.uk/test/neil-pryde-glide-wind-jp-hydrofoil-120-fws-2019-test-review/
surfasaco
surfasaco

12 posts

9 Sep 2020 4:14pm
But you, guys, think it,s an easy board (freefoil 130) to learn windfoilig if you know how to windsurf (intermediate)? i,m not sure what board i should buy...
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