I can add something about using a formula board--with far outboard footstraps--for free-ride foiling with sails smaller than 7.0; namely, it is NOT comfortable. If you keep your back foot free and placed at or near the middle of the board (to control side to side roll), you have to stand crabbed forward. It works, but it is not comfortable. You need to get the front foot inboard.

I have experimented with stick-on footstraps placed inboard for free-ride foiling. This has worked very well for a better stance and balance. Problem is that the stick-on pads come off too easily. I keep an inventory of sand paper, acetone, industrial contact cement, and automotive two-sided foam tape in the van to re-stick.

With the NorPac foil board now, for free-ride foiling, all of this is completely moot. The formula board is now reserved for a race foil and big sails, for which you DO want to stand far outboard.

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Gwarn at the risk of going off topic does the Moses 790 fly earlier than the SS76?
Have you tried the infinity 84 wing? I wonder how the Moses compares to that for early take off.

I'm on a Naish Hover Micro and another +1 for dedicated foil boards. The Naish boards have good configuration options with tracks for the foils.

About the same It's hard to tell as most of my foiling is do in 18+ mph winds so take off is fast as I sheet in. Yes I had a 84 butt sold it with the SS foils I had I ride the 790 and 683 Moses on a 101 and a 111 mast. I'm lucky as I sail the bay area so I get a lot a windy days so I don't really chase the light wind days. I'm blessed as this season of foiling I logged over 150 days and at least 300+ hours of foiling I'm sure as spring creeps up I'll change my tune and start hunting for wind. If I find the 790 to small for the lite days I'll order the 873 moses.

I haven't looked back since I got the Moses foils My Stoke Factor instantly went up with the new foils and masts. Also the taller masts make a huge difference for me in the highwinds and bigger swell it makes the ride easy and the craving much more fun.

I just joined the club and bought a Moses 790 with the new 105 mast! It's coming this Tuesday and first day out will be Wednesday! Can't wait! I am a bit worried about the length of the mast, mostly because I want things to be EASY after struggling with the previous foil! but it sounds like it is the way to go in the San Francisco Bay Area ... Gwarn what do you think? 105 vs 85?

Duzzi I think you made the right choice by ordering the 105 as time goes on you will like the taller mast especially if you start sailing Coyote Point and Crissy the 105 mast is the right one for the chop.

Thank you Gwarn and there it is: Moses Freeride with 105 mast. It is really a work of tech-art!

Hello Segler, does the North Pac board have tuttle box or slider?

The default is a deep tuttle box, but since they make them custom, you could always ask them to make a slider. They sell them through Sailworks.

For deep tuttle they include really strong reinforcement to carry the cantilevering force exerted by the foil. They use extra stringers attached to the side of the finbox and embedded forward inside the board foam. This effectively makes the finbox some 15" long.

Before they got busy with making foil boards, I had them modify a formula board by moving its finbox 3" forward. They did that and included the stringer reinforcement. Nothing will tear that finbox out now.

Thanks Segler,
Do they have cutouts?

No, no cutouts. Since the wing begins to lift the board even at sub-flight low displacement speeds, you don't benefit from cutouts. My formula board has cutouts, but I can't tell the difference between it and the NorPac when getting going from start to flight speed.

I have 2 boards. for foil starboard f type 158 l, weight 10 kg and for strong wind starboard iconic 127 l, weight 7 kg. I two days ago under wind 8-10 knots tried isonic with foil. The weight difference of 3 kg for did not affect the takeoff. But the width of the stern affects the stability and control of the Foil.