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Foiling is in the Olympics!

Created by Adam in NSW Adam in NSW  > 9 months ago, 18 Apr 2023
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Paducah
Paducah

2792 posts

18 Apr 2023 8:16pm
It was not really clear from reading link in that article - about how many spots are available for men's and women's IQFoil? Doesn't sound like many.
KA360
KA360

NSW

803 posts

18 Apr 2023 10:28pm
23 men and 23 women I think.
11 chosen from world championships
6 from continentals (1 from oceania)
5 from last chance regatta
1 from emerging nations
MarcCRider
MarcCRider

61 posts

18 Apr 2023 9:54pm
So, more than one sailor from the same country can compete in the IQ foil olympics. In the previous RSX olympics it was limited to one man, and one woman per country, isn't it?

IMO a qualifying system based on previous competition results, regardless of country, makes more sense, specially with that extra places for emerging countries and continental championships.
KA360
KA360

NSW

803 posts

19 Apr 2023 12:23am
I believe it is still only one man and woman per country.
So 23 countries represented by 23 men and 23 countries in the women.
MarcCRider
MarcCRider

61 posts

18 Apr 2023 11:03pm
It seems you are right, only one per country:
In the original document NOC was not explained, but in:
paris2024.sailing.org/racing/qualification-system/
it is.

"Athletes have at least three (3) opportunities to qualify their National Olympic Committee (NOC) for an Event in the Olympic Sailing Competition. Each NOC, in coordination with their national sailing federation, will determine their own criteria and timeline for selecting which athletes will represent them in the Events the NOC qualifies. "
Adam in NSW
Adam in NSW

NSW

16 posts

20 Apr 2023 9:50am
its going to be well worth watching, some sleepless nights ahead
swoosh
swoosh

QLD

1929 posts

20 Apr 2023 12:20pm
Whats the aussie squad shaping to look like? Have we qualified any sailors?
jusavina
jusavina

QLD

1494 posts

20 Apr 2023 9:53pm
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Adam in NSW said..
its going to be well worth watching, some sleepless nights ahead



You only have to watch the medal race, the rest counts for peanuts.
kato
kato

VIC

3513 posts

21 Apr 2023 10:59am
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swoosh said..
Whats the aussie squad shaping to look like? Have we qualified any sailors?


It was a top 5 ranking to get selected for Aus. Not sure how they do it now.
DarrylG
DarrylG

WA

506 posts

21 Apr 2023 9:52am
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jusavina said..

Adam in NSW said..
its going to be well worth watching, some sleepless nights ahead




You only have to watch the medal race, the rest counts for peanuts.


One 3 min downwind slalom if the wind is light
fjdoug
fjdoug

ACT

548 posts

21 Apr 2023 7:39pm
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DarrylG said..

jusavina said..


Adam in NSW said..
its going to be well worth watching, some sleepless nights ahead





You only have to watch the medal race, the rest counts for peanuts.



One 3 min downwind slalom if the wind is light


the format is really disappointing
Waterkiwi
Waterkiwi

95 posts

4 May 2023 10:30am
Not quite IQ, but looks like wingfoiling could go Olympic...

Heres a look at the wingfoiling in New Zealand this year also.

len024
len024

NSW

130 posts

5 May 2023 10:32am
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fjdoug said..

DarrylG said..


jusavina said..



Adam in NSW said..
its going to be well worth watching, some sleepless nights ahead






You only have to watch the medal race, the rest counts for peanuts.




One 3 min downwind slalom if the wind is light



the format is really disappointing


the format is the same as all sail boat racing has ever been in the olympics. just different courses so they can actually race in light winds.
CJW
CJW

CJW

NSW

1731 posts

5 May 2023 10:00pm
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len024 said..

the format is the same as all sail boat racing has ever been in the olympics. just different courses so they can actually race in light winds.



Yeah Nah...while the course format is indeed different to the traditional classes (wind dependant) it's the iQFoil scoring format is as far from the same as you can get to the traditional sailing classes, at least currently, they may change it and I haven't looked at the kite format. In the iQFoil class you can win every single race in the qualifying series, win every race in the semis, and still walk away with a Bronze medal in the final if you have a shocker. There are lots of people who aren't happy about it but it is what it is, all about entertainment.

That does not happen in the other classes, yes the gold medal race carries double points but there were many cases even in the last Olympics where teams were so dominant that they only had to finish the medal race to win gold. They are also still a traditional regatta format, no semi's finals etc, just a the final race of the series, the 'Gold medal race' carries double points.

Regatta sailing has always been about crowing the most consistent over the whole series as the winner.....that won't necessarily happen in iQFoil.
jusavina
jusavina

QLD

1494 posts

6 May 2023 12:19pm
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len024 said..

fjdoug said..


DarrylG said..



jusavina said..




Adam in NSW said..
its going to be well worth watching, some sleepless nights ahead







You only have to watch the medal race, the rest counts for peanuts.





One 3 min downwind slalom if the wind is light




the format is really disappointing



the format is the same as all sail boat racing has ever been in the olympics. just different courses so they can actually race in light winds.


As CJW explained it above. The IQfoil class has different courses AND a totally different format from other Olympic classes.

None of the others Olympic classes have their scores back to zero, nil, zilch, nada for the very last race.

Check the results with the net score and total score for the last IQ foil Olympic week in France and you'll understand.
fjdoug
fjdoug

ACT

548 posts

6 May 2023 7:13pm
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len024 said..





fjdoug said..






DarrylG said..







jusavina said..








Adam in NSW said..
its going to be well worth watching, some sleepless nights ahead











You only have to watch the medal race, the rest counts for peanuts.









One 3 min downwind slalom if the wind is light








the format is really disappointing







the format is the same as all sail boat racing has ever been in the olympics. just different courses so they can actually race in light winds.






No mate, like Chris and Julien say ,the Olympics has always been a regatta format where you accumulate points each race and drop your worst result once a series is completed. A few years ago they introduced the medal race where the top ten sail an extra race for double points and that is counted along with the rest of the results from the regatta. They changed that and now they discard all the races and only count the final.

Someone could dedicate 6, 8, 10 years and often more to Olympic sailing, sail the perfect lead up and the perfect regatta only to be taken out by another sailor in the final ; there is going to be a bunch of disappointed sailors with this format.
regal1
regal1

NSW

449 posts

14 May 2023 7:41am
You'll be able see the format tonight on the livestream with the iqfoil European championships in Patras, Greece. Local Sydney sailor, Grae Morris ended up 5th out of 113 after 18(!) course & slalom races & will take part in the medal race this evening. I think that the hunger games format isn't fair to the sailors but is certainly exciting for spectators. iqeuropeans2023greece.sailti.com/en/default/races/race
len024
len024

NSW

130 posts

14 May 2023 5:05pm
Oh I seem to have been very wrong that format is rubbish. Im definitely excited to watch the Aus sailors tonight.
I think should be run the same as the 49er or Nacra 17 although isn't the format similar to sail GP and it seems to work well for entertainment but **** for the competitors. How do they run it at the PWA?
berowne
berowne

NSW

1555 posts

15 May 2023 8:05am
len024
The PWA scoring is 'traditional'
No double point rounds or anything.

www.pwaworldtour.com/index.php?id=38&tx_pwaevent_pi1%5BshowUid%5D=336&cHash=0b8f4942373ecbec9adaa3dce9dafa56
berowne
berowne

NSW

1555 posts

15 May 2023 8:38am
How do we feel about the different courses offered? Personally I quite like some of the slalom races as alternatives to the traditional upwind races.
regal1
regal1

NSW

449 posts

15 May 2023 10:50am
The medal race start on a fully lit reach with a 9m sail for men, 8m for ladies in 25kn, gusting 30kn complete with 1m of chop is completely nuts. Amazing skills.
I agree with you that alternative courses are exciting but the time limits should be kept short. Euro '23 course race target time was 16 minutes & slalom 4-5 minutes. I'd rather have more races than a marathon.
len024
len024

NSW

130 posts

15 May 2023 10:50am
Slalom races are awesome and i like the finals course they do with the reach start and finish.
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