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Created by Sputnik11 Sputnik11  > 9 months ago, 20 Jul 2015
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Sputnik11
Sputnik11

VIC

972 posts

20 Jul 2015 9:42pm
Actually seriously thinking about getting a foil for summer.

Anyone have one? Do you like it?

How much are they? I know Horue, what others should I look at?
Sputnik11
Sputnik11

VIC

972 posts

20 Jul 2015 11:19pm


Looks like the standard board is much faster....
Parked
Parked

NSW

169 posts

20 Jul 2015 11:32pm
Sorry, serious question for those who know about the comparison.

If a windsurfer with a foil is running a six meter sail and the kite foiler is running an eighteen meter foil kite. What's the point?

Can the windsurfer benefit from this? that is, could a windsurfer replace a long board with a more efficient 12m or 6m rig to foil v the kitefoil? No idea, just asking

Seems like we're all heading in a "Go Fast" direction, just wondering whether it would be worth putting the attitude to aside and come up with a versatile solution
terminal
terminal

1421 posts

20 Jul 2015 11:53pm
What I know about foils is from reading about them.
You might need to reinforce a deep tuttle box to take a hydrofoil.

The race kite foils are designed to go fast and are smaller and higher aspect ratio. Slightly larger versions are used by kiters in low wind with very powerful 18m ram-air kites. Race foils can be pumped onto a plane to help them start earlier - as you can see in this video - and that should apply to light wind freeride foils too.


Horue now have a bigger XLW freeride front wing to make the starting speed a bit lower. You can see from the shape of the wing that they are trying to move the centre of lift forwards, to keep the board balanced while using the normal fin box position.
This guy Bruno33 is giving feedback on the XLW in French.
translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.windsurfing33.com/forum/viewtopic.php%3Fp%3D700978&prev=search

The AHD foil is much bigger and will plane earlier. The board is designed as a foil board and has the custom fin box mounted further forward. There are 2 AHD foil board designs, the AFS-1 and the Sealion Wings.


This is a video of Alex Aguera foiling with a 3.7m sail on a Starboard Supersonic, which he may have chosen because of the deep concaves, which cushion the impact when touching down on the water. He is using his own make of hydrofoil, which is normally his freeride foil for kiting. You can see he is repositioning the finbox and straps.


The Makofoil is another foil which has some history of successful windfoiling.
GazMan
GazMan

WA

847 posts

21 Jul 2015 12:42am
A lot of discussion already on Seabreeze re the same topic about 3 months ago:

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/Foiling/


iFoil hydrofoil windsurf board test in latest Boards magazine flatwater annual 2015 and also online:

boards.co.uk/equipment-tests/tested-equipment/the-ifoil-tested.html
Sputnik11
Sputnik11

VIC

972 posts

22 Jul 2015 11:13pm
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GazMan said..
A lot of discussion already on Seabreeze re the same topic about 3 months ago:

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/Foiling/


iFoil hydrofoil windsurf board test in latest Boards magazine flatwater annual 2015 and also online:

boards.co.uk/equipment-tests/tested-equipment/the-ifoil-tested.html


thanks man
terminal
terminal

1421 posts

22 Jul 2015 9:40pm
Horue XLW

WindmanV
WindmanV

VIC

804 posts

23 Jul 2015 8:52am
More discussion on the iWindsurf forum here:

Hydrofoiling:

www.iwindsurf.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=30144&sid=d1115e38b6cc1480cb248762a5eead85

Reasonable prices for Hydrofoils:

www.iwindsurf.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=30155&sid=d1115e38b6cc1480cb248762a5eead85

Also, the AHD AFS is on display on the Sunshine Coast Sailboards site, as they are the AHD distributor for Oz.

http://www.sunshinecoastsailboards.com.au/shop/sailboards/ahd/ahd-afs-1-sailboard-detail
joe windsurf
joe windsurf

1482 posts

23 Jul 2015 10:03am
put some links about the iFoil on my blog ... not from Apple

joewindsurfer.blogspot.com/2015/07/new-ifoil-2015.html
Sputnik11
Sputnik11

VIC

972 posts

25 Jul 2015 10:42pm
Looking at the prices - seem to be about $2400+ and then postage from Europe. Is it worth it? I could get a new board for that. And then they seem to requite a tuttle fin box, do they come in powerbox?

Horue?

Makofoil?
BSN101
BSN101

WA

2378 posts

25 Jul 2015 11:42pm
Would you trust all that extra leverage on a 1 bolt power box?
terminal
terminal

1421 posts

26 Jul 2015 3:31am
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Sputnik11 said..
Looking at the prices - seem to be about $2400+ and then postage from Europe. Is it worth it? I could get a new board for that. And then they seem to requite a tuttle fin box, do they come in powerbox?

Horue?

Makofoil?


Horue seem to reckon that even a deep tuttle box might need reinforcing.

Sputnik11
Sputnik11

VIC

972 posts

26 Jul 2015 10:19am
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BSN101 said..
Would you trust all that extra leverage on a 1 bolt power box?


Yeah - fair point.
seanhogan
seanhogan

QLD

3424 posts

18 Aug 2015 7:01pm
one thing we noticed is that you really need a top notch sail !!
LeStef
LeStef

ACT

514 posts

19 Aug 2015 10:59pm
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seanhogan said..
one thing we noticed is that you really need a top notch sail !!



Too funny with the old (Dufour?) sail.

And I guess that once you are planning/flying the board isn't important anymore ?
Or is a large surface area allows you to fly better ?
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