Early Christmas morning easterly on the river - the wind booted in to a superfun 20-25 knots.

Mr. Smooth living up to his name

iPhone 12 camera

Very smooth Simon
Some extreme board angles there. Love the slowmo to show his technique. Great work JJ.

What foil is he using phatasm pfi 730?

Thats level 10 smoothness right there...perfect 360's

I get all the way around but as soon as I lift the rig all speed is lost; I shall watch this on repeat the next time its windy...

Still Frothing on foiling
I was riding the Wizard 114 with the PFI730
The combination of the super stiff 103wide body mast combined with flat water and a fully powered 5.0 lets you go in at full speed and crank hard all while feeling secure and in control.
Happy Christmas all and a safe New Year

Thanks for the vid team! I am working on this move too. I have got it on the skate board just need to sort it out a bit more on the foil. One thing that stood out to me in this footage is that Simon pops the battens over as he starts to get backwinded, then he pushes on the boom or sheets in while backwinded. This helps keep the speed up through the turn and helps with balance. On the skateboard I can not make it all the way around without loading the backwinded sail. Now I am gonna make sure I pop the battens through first. The skate board is helping with my helitacks too. I have been calling the skate board my new wetsuit because Its much warmer than getting in the water!

Mad props to the ausie crew for their great vids and skills!
The water temps are still to low for my southern usa dairy air so I'm still carving on the sand. The drag profiles from sand to foil are so similar that I feel this is relevant here. Here is a recent study of mine on the down wind 360.
I took a screen shot of Simon aka 2keen aka mr smooth and measured the angles in CAD. I compared this to what I recorded on the sand.
You will see in the video that as I come around the half way point and the wind fills the backwinded sail the clew loads up and trys to push me off to the outside. On land falling to the inside of the turn is no biggie the boom is there for you. Falling to the outside of the turn is really bad so I wanted to figure out how to nip this in the bud. My main take away is a comon thread among a lot of these moves, Haul ass and commit! My lack o lean is why the sail loads up and trys to send me to the outside. I can only carve so hard on the sand before traction brakes but I can extend my arms more to lean the sail and lower the projected area of the sail. I hope this can help others and I hope the water warms soon! Still frothing! Many to thanks to Kristen Buckley for the footage!

Super sick UTC I need one of those streetsailors. It does look pretty similar. I think the similarity between land sailing and foiling is the minimal loss of speed in the transitions (unlike finning).

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utcminusfour said..

That turn is pulling a few gs! The sail doesn't seem to be catching much wind up or down, so provided the angle of turn is held for a fraction of a second, ie Simon doesn't crash to the inside in the next frame or three. It's tan(90 -(26 +10)) = tan 54 =1.376 g turn! And the foil would be pushing 1/sin 36 = 1.7 times its straight and level lift! What's that ? About 170kg. Is the foil prone to stalling doing this?

Great video UTC
I particularly like your first 360. Technique looks spot on. Mast pushed towards the inside of the turn, front arm straight then rig swung right back so the foot of the sail is touching your legs.
Your analysis of board angles is interesting but a little misleading. Ian K nailed it by saying my turn was pulling some g's. I was cranking some of those 360's but you don't need to to make a successful one.
If you compare it to a gybe, a gybe can either have a long arc or a tight arc. The tighter the arc the more commitment required the higher the g's
I picked up the Phantasm 926 and gave it a run yesterday.
This foil has incredible glyde making it a 360 machine. It just floats around
Ill see if I can post some footage of a longer arc, more upright 360.
Look forward to you getting back on the water UTC and translating your landsailing skills to the foil

You know the guy has his gear dialled when he has time halfway through the 360 to give the sail a flick to pop the battens around the mast

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2keen said..
Great video UTC
I particularly like your first 360. Technique looks spot on. Mast pushed towards the inside of the turn, front arm straight then rig swung right back so the foot of the sail is touching your legs.
Your analysis of board angles is interesting but a little misleading. Ian K nailed it by saying my turn was pulling some g's. I was cranking some of those 360's but you don't need to to make a successful one.
If you compare it to a gybe, a gybe can either have a long arc or a tight arc. The tighter the arc the more commitment required the higher the g's
I picked up the Phantasm 926 and gave it a run yesterday.
This foil has incredible glyde making it a 360 machine. It just floats around
Ill see if I can post some footage of a longer arc, more upright 360.
Look forward to you getting back on the water UTC and translating your landsailing skills to the foil

Thanks for the feed back Simon. I hear ya about the radius with tighter being more advanced, good point. What I am honinng in on with the measurements and watching you and emilytron/glazier is that the sail has to end up nearly parallel to the water. I am getting pushed to the outside of the turn when I am half way through. I think what I need to do is carry more speed in and then keep "long arms" to get the sail out of the wind during that part of the move.
I fancy that Phantasm 926 too, it will fit on my Moses. I may give it or the Moses 945 a try here shortly. This modrate aspect design look like the sweet spot for me.