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Carving bumps upwind and downwind (video)

Created by azymuth azymuth  > 9 months ago, 23 Mar 2022
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azymuth
azymuth

WA

2166 posts

23 Mar 2022 8:23am
Cheers to my nephew Thom for filming with his iPhone
SSW 20-25 knots
Simmer Tricera 4.5 and 4.7
JJ and Mr. Smooth
2keen
2keen

WA

376 posts

23 Mar 2022 9:46am
Love the dolphin like foil out at 2:01
azymuth
azymuth

WA

2166 posts

23 Mar 2022 11:40am
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2keen said..
Love the dolphin like foil out at 2:01


Channelling my inner Sandman
thedoor
thedoor

2487 posts

24 Mar 2022 1:27am
So good, as always
PatK
PatK

322 posts

24 Mar 2022 6:02am
Very nice! Did Simon replace his SS Infinity with a SABFoil? Could you give more infos about it?
WsurfAustin
WsurfAustin

659 posts

24 Mar 2022 9:07am
Niiiccce! Sweet turns!
CAN17
CAN17

575 posts

24 Mar 2022 10:03pm
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PatK said..
Very nice! Did Simon replace his SS Infinity with a SABFoil? Could you give more infos about it?


I think Simon is riding the sabfoil BP 799 in the video.

Great video JJ you guys make the Winger look like he's standing still
We are worlds away but do have similar conditions (only colder here).
CoreAS
CoreAS

923 posts

25 Mar 2022 1:46am
its always so windy when the Freo doctor kicks in, full on power carving....so awesome
Paducah
Paducah

2792 posts

25 Mar 2022 8:16pm
Got in a nice 4.7 session yesterday and channeled some of this energy and good vibes into my riding. Our wind chop is smaller but still fun to make some curves happen. No matter how many times I do it, still surprising how much range a 4.7 has on a foil 10-25 kts.
Guru4
Guru4

42 posts

25 Mar 2022 9:18pm
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CAN17 said..

PatK said..
Very nice! Did Simon replace his SS Infinity with a SABFoil? Could you give more infos about it?



I think Simon is riding the sabfoil BP 799 in the video.

Great video JJ you guys make the Winger look like he's standing still
We are worlds away but do have similar conditions (only colder here).


I feel sorry for the winger. Makes me wonder why so many drop the sail for the wing. I doubt you'll see these 2 guns on a wing.
thedoor
thedoor

2487 posts

25 Mar 2022 9:51pm
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Guru4 said..

CAN17 said..


PatK said..
Very nice! Did Simon replace his SS Infinity with a SABFoil? Could you give more infos about it?




I think Simon is riding the sabfoil BP 799 in the video.

Great video JJ you guys make the Winger look like he's standing still
We are worlds away but do have similar conditions (only colder here).



I feel sorry for the winger. Makes me wonder why so many drop the sail for the wing. I doubt you'll see these 2 guns on a wing.


there are two main reasons for skilled windfoilers to try winging

1) to realize how easy wing foiling is
2) So people stop asking you if/when you will try winging
utcminusfour
utcminusfour

778 posts

25 Mar 2022 10:37pm

All I get these days is when are you going to try winging? At least they have stopped asking me when I am goint to try kites!
simonp65
simonp65

97 posts

26 Mar 2022 12:09am
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I feel sorry for the winger. Makes me wonder why so many drop the sail for the wing. I doubt you'll see these 2 guns on a wing.



Having mostly moved over to winging I can tell you why! In the same conditions you have more options:

1) Ride the waves unpowered in a pure surfing style without a sail interfering with your view of the wave

2) Ride the waves in a powered up style (see Alex Aguera in
)

3) Get big floaty jumps on the way out!

I've wind foiled on decent waves but it really doesn't compare to 1)
azymuth
azymuth

WA

2166 posts

26 Mar 2022 5:09am
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thedoor said..
there are two main reasons for skilled windfoilers to try winging
1) to realize how easy wing foiling is
2) So people stop asking you if/when you will try winging


^^ We have many high-level wingers locally but they don't ask us anymore

Why I'm all in with windfoiling;
Carving power using mast-foot pressure, fast s-turn downwinding.
Cranking "rail" turns and speed DTL on waves.
Upwind and downwind speed.
Quick easy waterstarting.
Leash-free.
Reasonable control in crashes by holding on to the boom which keeps the foil away.
Ability to grovel back when the wind drops.
Easily cover large distances to explore or sail back from downwinders.
Longevity of wavesails.

Windfoiling is becoming an outlier so even more cool
WsurfAustin
WsurfAustin

659 posts

26 Mar 2022 9:11am
We've got a group of wingers here and a few kite foilers. We have many foiling days year round, but the conditions on any given day can be highly variable. They spend a lot of time in the water in the lulls. They stay pretty close to the launch area for that reason. Windfoiling with 114 board, I can always get home and stay out of the cold water. I like to travel far downwind/upwind. I have been down wind when the wind died. Slogging for a half hour is not fun, but at least I can get back.

I envy you guys with consistent winds and ocean swell.
marc5
marc5

185 posts

26 Mar 2022 7:38pm
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azymuth said..

thedoor said..
there are two main reasons for skilled windfoilers to try winging
1) to realize how easy wing foiling is
2) So people stop asking you if/when you will try winging



^^ We have many high-level wingers locally but they don't ask us anymore

Why I'm all in with windfoiling;
Carving power using mast-foot pressure, fast s-turn downwinding.
Cranking "rail" turns and speed DTL on waves.
Upwind and downwind speed.
Quick easy waterstarting.
Leash-free.
Reasonable control in crashes by holding on to the boom which keeps the foil away.
Ability to grovel back when the wind drops.
Easily cover large distances to explore or sail back from downwinders.
Longevity of wavesails.

Windfoiling is becoming an outlier so even more cool


Thanks for another great video. Love windfoiling but still working on jibes. Could you expand on your comment "Carving power using mast-foot pressure.....". This might help me.

Thank you.
CoreAS
CoreAS

923 posts

27 Mar 2022 1:53am
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thedoor said..

Guru4 said..


CAN17 said..



PatK said..
Very nice! Did Simon replace his SS Infinity with a SABFoil? Could you give more infos about it?





I think Simon is riding the sabfoil BP 799 in the video.

Great video JJ you guys make the Winger look like he's standing still
We are worlds away but do have similar conditions (only colder here).




I feel sorry for the winger. Makes me wonder why so many drop the sail for the wing. I doubt you'll see these 2 guns on a wing.



there are two main reasons for skilled windfoilers to try winging

1) to realize how easy wing foiling is
2) So people stop asking you if/when you will try winging




Even when I wind foil I get asked why don't I wing?.. I'm like well I do both, but this particular day and given this wind direction wind foiling is far better, then I get a confused look?

@simonp65 I think it depends on the day (wind and swell direction), sometimes I get more quality swells rides on a wind foil than wing.

If the wind switches to cross onshore winging kinda sucks and you spend an enormous amount of energy trying to get out of wind shadows and because you're generally foiling at slower speeds you don't always have enough power to get over the swell line and end up in no mans land within the given set.
TroyMcClure
TroyMcClure

25 posts

27 Mar 2022 6:40am
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utcminusfour said..

All I get these days is when are you going to try winging? At least they have stopped asking me when I am goint to try kites!


Ha! Yeah, that's all I get too!
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