French team training foil camp Almanare

Our football coach would say, "Give me 10," when we did something wrong. Didn't know it was universal!

Do you need specialized foils to jibe like that, or could a basic Slingshot setup do it with the right skills?

To jibe like that you need skills and experience, for any gear. Team practices are a great way to get that. Football coaches and army drill sergeants are well known for "gimme ten." My army drill sergeant in 1969 couldn't count to ten. He stopped at 50. LOL

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marc5 said..
Our football coach would say, "Give me 10," when we did something wrong. Didn't know it was universal!

Do you need specialized foils to jibe like that, or could a basic Slingshot setup do it with the right skills?

I think the racefoils have longer fuses to make them more stable at the extra speed. My guess is that flying gybes are probably easier on slingshot free ride gear as you have time to correct if something is off. However, you could try getting your hands on a hoverglide warpspeed wing it will be similar in feel to race foil (lower lift higher speed), but would not recommend it for general free riding.

My first flying gybe was on that wing slingshotsports.com/products/hover-glide-warp-speed-65cm-carbon-wing

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marc5 said..
Our football coach would say, "Give me 10," when we did something wrong. Didn't know it was universal!

Do you need specialized foils to jibe like that, or could a basic Slingshot setup do it with the right skills?

As universal, with bad teachers, as it is primitive: punish or humiliate the students if they do something wrong. I can't think of a worse way to teach anything. It only feeds the ego of the instructor.

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duzzi said..

marc5 said..
Our football coach would say, "Give me 10," when we did something wrong. Didn't know it was universal!

Do you need specialized foils to jibe like that, or could a basic Slingshot setup do it with the right skills?

As universal, with bad teachers, as it is primitive: punish or humiliate the students if they do something wrong. I can't think of a worse way to teach anything. It only feeds the ego of the instructor.

It depends on who is being instructed. If it's just your average Joe, then I agree, but if it's an elite sportsperson then the challenge can be appropriate. Great instructors tailor their methods to suit.

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duzzi said..

marc5 said..
Our football coach would say, "Give me 10," when we did something wrong. Didn't know it was universal!

Do you need specialized foils to jibe like that, or could a basic Slingshot setup do it with the right skills?

As universal, with bad teachers, as it is primitive: punish or humiliate the students if they do something wrong. I can't think of a worse way to teach anything. It only feeds the ego of the instructor.

It depends on who is being instructed. If it's just your average Joe, then I agree, but if it's an elite sportsperson then the challenge can be appropriate. Great instructors tailor their methods to suit.

I really doubt that that coach is a great instructor. The idea that somehow abuses, push ups, trigger ... what? The capability of jibing?

Methods based on punishment only achieve burn out. That is most often the case, or lack of improvement, unless the student has big resources of his/her own, and is capable to ignore the disruption and learn despite the instructor. Ever watched whiplash? The Hollywood version of how not to teach an aspiring pro (or anybody really)

Doing pushups on your board with a harness on........don't want to slip.....

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John340 said..

It depends on who is being instructed. If it's just your average Joe, then I agree, but if it's an elite sportsperson then the challenge can be appropriate. Great instructors tailor their methods to suit.

There is an old Wisdom:
"You do not necessarily recognize Great Masters by their Mastership, BUT by Achievements of Their Students".
a) If the Student feels abused, he/she will never grow.
b) If the Student is not challenged accordingly, he/she will never grow either.

Everybody is different and different balance between "stick" and the "carrot" can lead to maximum growth.

Here is my example from Swimming World for case "b)"
Most people who swim on their own, lets say 200m, get tired and stop.
That tiredness is only a perception and a psychological "safety mechanism" to conserve the energy.
When I was in a junior lifeguard training 4 decades ago, our Coach told us to swim 200m first, then he said: "now swim another lap, then another lap". In no time we were all stunned, we all swum 1.5km first time in our lives !
The "Mirracle" that happen has very easy scientific explanation.
When you "break the barrier" of "first tiredness" your body becomes more relaxed in the water, strokes and breathing deeper and elongated. You actually relax and become efficient and "one with the water".
It becomes like jogging on land for most people.

All thanks to that first Lifeguard Coach that "opened my eyes".

Then for many years I did my swimming pool routine swimming 1.6 mile 2.6 km in one hour. No big deal.
I also did a YouTube video about it 8 years ago.
"Older Solo Scuba Diver emphasizes importance of cardio workout for general health & fitness."


Now often in the Summer, I go to my favorite lake "Rattlesnake Lake" where combustible engine are not allowed and swim 3 miles or 5 km or 5500 yards. Not bad for a Grandpa.

This all only possible because a Great Coach challenged me (and us) to get out of my (our) "comfort zone".

Yes, I do advise that you have someone supervising you when you want to push yourself swimming, takes safety precautions, use pool with lifeguards on duty and aware of it first.

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duzzi said..

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duzzi said..

marc5 said..
Our football coach would say, "Give me 10," when we did something wrong. Didn't know it was universal!

Do you need specialized foils to jibe like that, or could a basic Slingshot setup do it with the right skills?

As universal, with bad teachers, as it is primitive: punish or humiliate the students if they do something wrong. I can't think of a worse way to teach anything. It only feeds the ego of the instructor.

It depends on who is being instructed. If it's just your average Joe, then I agree, but if it's an elite sportsperson then the challenge can be appropriate. Great instructors tailor their methods to suit.

I really doubt that that coach is a great instructor. The idea that somehow abuses, push ups, trigger ... what? The capability of jibing?

Methods based on punishment only achieve burn out. That is most often the case, or lack of improvement, unless the student has big resources of his/her own, and is capable to ignore the disruption and learn despite the instructor. Ever watched whiplash? The Hollywood version of how not to teach an aspiring pro (or anybody really)

10 push ups isn't abuse. It's just those fun lovin Froggies mocking Americans.