I m going to the house of Clearwater tomorrow to get my new stick shaped.
I am now having doubts on what to get. I wanted a more hp board than what I have now,as I find the thick yet forgiving rails really bog me down.the thickness on bigger waves 4-6ft beaches makes me skip along the wave like a kid chucking a stone.
I love the board in most stuff to head high as it is easy to ride,I guess this is a double question in the end.
Should I go more length and get the board more hp in order to keep the volume I enjoy now. and do hybrid/fish boards ruin how you Surf,as in they are easy and forgiving which is fun,yet when you want big rooster tail cutties and the like they just don't cut it.
As you can tell a bit lost ,as I would really need 10 boards the way I'm thinking .
I'm thinking and mind you I'm far from a vert surfer,6'10x20x2/34 for those bigger more hollow days,oh **** I'm really confusedd now

Didnt you get a monkey chop?

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WA71 said...
Didnt you get a monkey chop?

Was looking at it.and wanted it,yet when my name came to the list I had no coin to spare. I hid the money this time hahaha

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chrispy said..

WA71 said...

Didnt you get a monkey chop?

Was looking at it.and wanted it,yet when my name came to the list I had no coin to spare. I hid the money this time hahaha

They look nice. Make it a bit wider, bit thicker but sharpen up the rails.

Steve will tell what works and what dosnt.

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... do hybrid/fish boards ruin how you Surf,as in they are easy and forgiving which is fun,yet when you want big rooster tail cutties and the like they just don't cut it.

They did for me. Well, I wouldn't say 'ruin'. I wanted to do some stuff and experiment, the fish did what I wanted but now I've moved back to a hpsb a month ago or so. But the board(s) I was riding promoted sliding and forcing and jamming rather than turning. You can still rail turn the fishes, but you need to plan it a bit more vs. just putting it on rail and away it goes. On Sunday I got one wave with a nice snap then straight into a bottom turn into the next move with zero delay whereas the fish style is more do a top turn, then reset, plan the next one. I'm going to go even more refined next time, loving the hpsb. Still, for certain days I'll be pulling out the fish. So easy and fun to pop around.

What I'm saying might not apply, because your dims are huge compared to mine.

Legion it makes complete ssense. Yes huge for some but not for me. Not bagging my ability just facing the facts of how much cortisone my body lives on. Mind you I have been surfing roughly 25 hours a week and that is way beyond what the experts tell me haha. I might listen to Del who I Surf With on occasion and take the 6'620x2/12 and get used to the litres. Then my next one which is really for bigger point days with sweep get the other made. Doggie I'm more leaning between a Boston switch and.iconic now. But yes bigger than normal.people

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Doggie I'm more leaning between a Boston switch and.iconic now. But yes bigger than normal.people

I saw a Boston Switch last week in his factory looked unreal,loved the shape.

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chrispy said...
[br]I m going to the house of Clearwater tomorrow to get my new stick shaped.
I am now having doubts on what to get. I wanted a more hp board than what I have now,as I find the thick yet forgiving rails really bog me down.the thickness on bigger waves 4-6ft beaches makes me skip along the wave like a kid chucking a stone.
I love the board in most stuff to head high as it is easy to ride,I guess this is a double question in the end.
Should I go more length and get the board more hp in order to keep the volume I enjoy now. and do hybrid/fish boards ruin how you Surf,as in they are easy and forgiving which is fun,yet when you want big rooster tail cutties and the like they just don't cut it.
As you can tell a bit lost ,as I would really need 10 boards the way I'm thinking .
I'm thinking and mind you I'm far from a vert surfer,6'10x20x2/34 for those bigger more hollow days,oh **** I'm really confusedd now

Go the monkey chop Chrispy. I am 90kg and ride a 6'5 x 20.25 x 2 5/8 rusty that's pretty similar in shape. Have a 6'4 on order same volume just a quarter inch wider. I hadn't ridden anything less than a 6'8 in years, but now am loving the shorter wider thing.

Go shorter and wider Chrispy - you are loads smaller than me and I ride a 5'10" so get with the program If you want it for bigger waves etc just get Steve to take the shoulder off the rails and pull the tail in a bit. I reckon he will know what to make ya though - blokes like him know ****.. Trust him.

Um.shorter wider....I'm more thinner longer. **** it I'm fully a hpsb mother****ers I will.go 5'7x 18 3/4 x2 1/4
I have left it to SDR before and was stoked so I will just do it again. I'm still in the longer narrower mindset though. Bigger hollower waves being short will not help me imo.

Chrispy Stu Smith from Stuart surfboards makes a model called the bender,he has been making it for a few years why I asked him,the shorter wider boards fit in our waves,go the wider shorter mate.

Smaller and wider than what you are thinking is what I am saying.....6'10 is a massive board for a person of your ability - unless you are planning on tackling those points when they are 8ft with loads of water moving.

Could not SDR today as the wife is still not great. Am leaving it to him. It won't be a short wide board that I do know. From the quick talk it will be 6'4x20x? With very refined rails. This board will be my straddie and good beachie day board. My other shorty likes the **** and when it's really crap then the longboard comes out. Will be dropping a few litres but SDR is sure I will be fine. It will be the Boston switch model. So come on Tuesday yeeeeeeew

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chrispy said..

It won't be a ... wide board that I do know.

From the quick talk it will be 6'4x20 ...

20" is wide.

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Legion said...

chrispy said..

It won't be a ... wide board that I do know.

From the quick talk it will be 6'4x20 ...

20" is wide.

For some it is. Yet between my longboard and hybrid he really did not want go the full hp width. More so to keep it easier for me to jump between boards and not take that adjustment time that I always seem to go through.
So wide maybe but it will have super refined rails and a more hp template. Not the wide point forward blah blah blah. I'm super happy and hope to be when I Surf it,that's all that counts. Next one when will probably be narrower again if the body keeps getting stronger and does not break.

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chrispy said..



... do hybrid/fish boards ruin how you Surf,as in they are easy and forgiving which is fun,yet when you want big rooster tail cutties and the like they just don't cut it.

They did for me. Well, I wouldn't say 'ruin'. I wanted to do some stuff and experiment, the fish did what I wanted but now I've moved back to a hpsb a month ago or so. But the board(s) I was riding promoted sliding and forcing and jamming rather than turning. You can still rail turn the fishes, but you need to plan it a bit more vs. just putting it on rail and away it goes. On Sunday I got one wave with a nice snap then straight into a bottom turn into the next move with zero delay whereas the fish style is more do a top turn, then reset, plan the next one. I'm going to go even more refined next time, loving the hpsb. Still, for certain days I'll be pulling out the fish. So easy and fun to pop around.

What I'm saying might not apply, because your dims are huge compared to mine.

What dims do run?

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Legion it makes complete ssense. Yes huge for some but not for me. Not bagging my ability just facing the facts of how much cortisone my body lives on. Mind you I have been surfing roughly 25 hours a week and that is way beyond what the experts tell me haha. I might listen to Del who I Surf With on occasion and take the 6'620x2/12 and get used to the litres. Then my next one which is really for bigger point days with sweep get the other made. Doggie I'm more leaning between a Boston switch and.iconic now. But yes bigger than normal.people

Looked at the boston switch on SDRs website last night, thats a nice looking board!!

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What dims do run?

You talking to me doggie?

Last most heavily used one (the 'fish'): 5'9" x 19 1/2" x 2 1/2" (or maybe 2 3/8")
Newest one as of a month or two: 6'1" x 18 3/4" x 2 3/8" hpsb

About to order: hpsb 5'11" x 18 1/2" x 2 3/8" probably? Somewhere around that.

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Legion said..

WA71 said..



What dims do run?

You talking to me doggie?

Last most heavily used one (the 'fish'): 5'9" x 19 1/2" x 2 1/2" (or maybe 2 3/8")

Newest one as of a month or two: 6'1" x 18 3/4" x 2 3/8" hpsb

About to order: hpsb 5'11" x 18 1/2" x 2 3/8" probably? Somewhere around that.

Sure was, they are small boards. I recon even the fish would be to small for me

Got two weeks holidays comming up so looking forward to some surf

Josh is a master at extra volume. Those boards have lots of foam. They paddle like it, anyway. The fish is a piece of cake. I weigh a few kg less than you, few inches taller, but close enough. Probably floatier than Dave's boards, given he likes deeper concaves and those pulled in tails (on his 'fish' compared to my 'fish'). You could've looked at the 6'1" at his shop if you've just been in, it's getting a bit of a fix. I saw that 5'10" he mentioned, it looks like fun. And the electronic gizmos look very cool too. I can see those selling well.

Imma heading to sunnier climates for a couple of weeks myself shortly. No planes involved.

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Legion said..
Josh is a master at extra volume. Those boards have lots of foam. They paddle like it, anyway. The fish is a piece of cake. I weigh a few kg less than you, few inches taller, but close enough. Probably floatier than Dave's boards, given he likes deeper concaves and those pulled in tails (on his 'fish' compared to my 'fish'). You could've looked at the 6'1" at his shop if you've just been in, it's getting a bit of a fix. I saw that 5'10" he mentioned, it looks like fun. And the electronic gizmos look very cool too. I can see those selling well.

Imma heading to sunnier climates for a couple of weeks myself shortly. No planes involved.

Lend me the fish and I will tell you how it goes

Yea I thought you were a bit lighter than me, Im 85kg atm

Im going in to see Dave to night if he is in or tomorrow. If its still there I will have a look

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Legion said...
Josh is a master at extra volume. Those boards have lots of foam. They paddle like it, anyway. The fish is a piece of cake. I weigh a few kg less than you, few inches taller, but close enough. Probably floatier than Dave's boards, given he likes deeper concaves and those pulled in tails (on his 'fish' compared to my 'fish'). You could've looked at the 6'1" at his shop if you've just been in, it's getting a bit of a fix. I saw that 5'10" he mentioned, it looks like fun. And the electronic gizmos look very cool too. I can see those selling well.

Imma heading to sunnier climates for a couple of weeks myself shortly. No planes involved.

You say master of extra volume,yet in my mind that would equal boxy rails, flat deck and minimum bottom contours. Is it more the compsand he uses that will allow him to make such adjustments over a pu board? Simple question perhaps,but more I'm trying to ask I guess is can you go smaller because of how the board is made ie epoxy?

Chrispy a good shaper can hide volume.

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Chrispy a good shaper can hide volume.

Yes I know that,but legion is talking pro size dimensions....maybe he is parko I am more asking is he going so small because off epoxy,or could he ride the same dims in pu.

I've been getting quite interested in katana epoxy boards recently. According to the website his epoxy boards are 30% more buoyant than pu equivalent.

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bene313 said...
I've been getting quite interested in katana epoxy boards recently. According to the website his epoxy boards are 30% more buoyant than pu equivalent.

Surfed a 5,10 scud today in epoxy and it was very buoyant. I'm 85kgs and 6.0 tall.

chrispy, I only weigh around 80kg and do a lot of fitness and surfing. My paddle fitness is well above average. My surfing skills might not be pro level but it wouldn't surprise me if my paddling ability wasn't far off.

Fish is as boxy as you'd expect, and the nose and tail widths are up there.

Other one is a proper hpsb. Not quite a razor blade, but close enough.

Josh likes low concave. Closer to 1/8" probably.

I've never measured his boards to see how they compare to the 'book measurement', but they've all had plenty of float.

I don't know that epoxy makes that much of a difference that you can drop a 1/16" or 1/8" in thickness. Like bike riders, the biggest difference comes from the rider losing a few kg.

I could ride the same dims in pu/pe but I'm happy with Josh.

My dims are comparable to pros dims of the same weight. It works for me.

Katana's boards are nice, for sure. And he's a nice bloke too. And his prices are good.

I'm more paddle fit than the majority of people yet I still could not see myself down to those dims. On the weight issue I could not agree more. I had put on A few kg when I quit smoking,I cwould not wait to strip it off as I could see where it affected my performance. It was a minor inconvenience to the overall picture. Still a couple more to drop.
I'm still not with it on the pu vs epoxy,as. I thought epoxy would let you drop some dims as the board is more buoyant.

Roger that Chrispy. You can get away with less volume on a pop-out, but I'm not sure on the compsands.