not a huge fan of contests but this turn is on a different level!

http://vanstriplecrownofsurfing.com/reefhawaiianpro2012/heat-analyzer/heat:374/sesh:1184/time:26-45-44/m:14923

Over on real surf I think it is there is debate about this turn.

Some call it ugly, some call it as he got lucky.

Dont understand comments as he tried it on the wave before so on second attempt made it so I will eliminate luck.

My thoughts are I am confused about what the hell he did in terms of did he spin completely around in the whitewater or pull board back the way he had come from.

Either way I am amazed and reckon he deserved something in the 9's.

Same forum debating best turns ever so thought we could have a go.

Ones that blow me away is another Reynolds turn at Rinco (surfing against Curren who just seems to be getting better). Turn is at around 1.22.



Here is Tommy Carrolls pipeline snap which is still beyond comprehension.



I also loved this turn of Josk Kerr's turn at the quik pro. At about 2.40

Think he should have been given the score as that was the first time I had seen something like that and even his peers were blown away.



Anyway those are my favourites off the top of my head.

I saw the replay of that the other nite, after he hit the lip I didnt think he was going to make it. When he surfed out of it was a jaw dropping moment

Im not sure how you would score it, was it better than Ke11ys helicopter air at Bells? Imo Kellys air shouldnt have scored a 10 and danes wave wasnt a 7.33 I think it was more in the 8ish range but thats just splitting hairs maybe more like 8 even.

Judging is very subjective, wave type and condition play a part in how any move is scored.

Judging is very subjective but its interesting listening to Dorian and Machado as they are just blown away by the turn and then judges score which they saw as way to low. Coming from two of the best surfers in the world who understand just how complex that was I tend to agree.

I actually like the other move by Reynolds I linked just for the power he put into jamming the tail and then the bounce off the foam.

Yeah wow, not sure what I'm seeing there. Thats pretty incredible.

One of the sickest turns I've seen was at Margaret's mainbreak. Occy did this layback cutty under the lip on the surgeons table, straightened out & got barreled. It made for a pretty effective stalling technique

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doggie said...
I saw the replay of that the other nite, after he hit the lip I didnt think he was going to make it. When he surfed out of it was a jaw dropping moment

Im not sure how you would score it, was it better than Ke11ys helicopter air at Bells? Imo Kellys air shouldnt have scored a 10 and danes wave wasnt a 7.33 I think it was more in the 8ish range but thats just splitting hairs maybe more like 8 even.

Judging is very subjective, wave type and condition play a part in how any move is scored.

Watching it again I think in the context of the heat its probably about right.

A 7.33 is still a high range "Good Wave"... with an 8+ score is in the Excellent Range. I don't think it was as bull**** of the Bells Air

The second highest score was a 5.5 (high range average wave) which was a longer wave had more turns but just wasn't critical enough.

http://www.aspworldtour.com/press-room/judging-criteria/

this is an interesting line and could be applied to Danes wave

"Judges will utilize a 75-25% ratio being that surfers will only ever get a maximum of 75% ( 7.5pts ) of the scale for surfing only one aspect of Modern or Traditional, up to an additional 25% ( 2.5pts ) can be added when the 2 aspects are combined. Incomplete manoeuvres will not be rewarded."

Pooman

Shows you how subjective surfing is as I think it is one of the craziest turns I have ever seen given that it is done in a solid hawaian wave.

I still cant work out which way he turned the board to come out of it.

Last glimpse of him shows the nose of the board digging into the wave.

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Indodreaming said...
Pooman

Shows you how subjective surfing is as I think it is one of the craziest turns I have ever seen given that it is done in a solid hawaian wave.

I still cant work out which way he turned the board to come out of it.

Last glimpse of him shows the nose of the board digging into the wave.

+1

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pooman said...

doggie said...
I saw the replay of that the other nite, after he hit the lip I didnt think he was going to make it. When he surfed out of it was a jaw dropping moment

Im not sure how you would score it, was it better than Ke11ys helicopter air at Bells? Imo Kellys air shouldnt have scored a 10 and danes wave wasnt a 7.33 I think it was more in the 8ish range but thats just splitting hairs maybe more like 8 even.

Judging is very subjective, wave type and condition play a part in how any move is scored.

Watching it again I think in the context of the heat its probably about right.

A 7.33 is still a high range "Good Wave"... with an 8+ score is in the Excellent Range. I don't think it was as bull**** of the Bells Air

The second highest score was a 5.5 (high range average wave) which was a longer wave had more turns but just wasn't critical enough.

http://www.aspworldtour.com/press-room/judging-criteria/

this is an interesting line and could be applied to Danes wave

"Judges will utilize a 75-25% ratio being that surfers will only ever get a maximum of 75% ( 7.5pts ) of the scale for surfing only one aspect of Modern or Traditional, up to an additional 25% ( 2.5pts ) can be added when the 2 aspects are combined. Incomplete manoeuvres will not be rewarded."

Yea but its a move that hasnt been done before in competition and was very rad
Im still gonna call it an 8.0 as he rode out clean, but hey I wasnt on the panel of judges

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Indodreaming said...
Pooman

Shows you how subjective surfing is as I think it is one of the craziest turns I have ever seen given that it is done in a solid hawaian wave.

I still cant work out which way he turned the board to come out of it.

Last glimpse of him shows the nose of the board digging into the wave.

You're right, and I think judges have learnt from the Bells Air. Which was in no doubt 'bull****' but if they had followed there own criteria Kelly technically shouldn't have gotten any better than a 7.5 as well. The extra 2.5 to get the 10 was the subjective scoring.

So given the judging criteria and the Modern and Traditional aspects...Danes Wave didn't have any "traditional" aspects so according to there own ruling it could only ever get a 7.5 at best...

and maybe I would also hazard a guess the criteria would be more weighted on traditional aspects when in Hawaii than anywhere else...

I Agree though I don't think he could have tweaked it any more than he did hes about the only bloke who doesn't hold back when pushing it.

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Indodreaming said...
Pooman

Shows you how subjective surfing is as I think it is one of the craziest turns I have ever seen given that it is done in a solid hawaian wave.

I still cant work out which way he turned the board to come out of it.

Last glimpse of him shows the nose of the board digging into the wave.

+1

+ 1 No idea how he made it out of that - except that its Dane.

Madness. Looks like one of yr turns on that single fin Sean

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Ted the Kiwi said...

Prawnhead said...

Indodreaming said...
Pooman

Shows you how subjective surfing is as I think it is one of the craziest turns I have ever seen given that it is done in a solid hawaian wave.

I still cant work out which way he turned the board to come out of it.

Last glimpse of him shows the nose of the board digging into the wave.

+1

+ 1 No idea how he made it out of that - except that its Dane.

Madness. Looks like one of yr turns on that single fin Sean

only one of my switchfoot turns .......dane needs to aim up and show a little more commitment to the turn if he wants to compete on our level.
funny ....a mate and i said essentially the same thing to kelly in 07 at kandui when he was on the comeback trail .. went straight to jbay and blitzed em and then wrapped it up that year after a little training on the finer points from us!!