A thread on the LB room got around to Cable Station which is called the worlds first artificial surf reef although it success or failure is up for arguement.

This is a clip of the New Zealand effort which has mixed views with some claiming it wrecked what was already there.



Narrowneck



Bournemouth UK
- second video seems a bit better but reading comments on youtube has mixed viewd but someone said a boat hit it and damaged sand bags which effected it.





ASR's effort in India which seems the best so far

Now for the ones I know where man has played a part with sand diversion, groyne

etc

Floreat Groyne



THe superbank



Sandspit SB



Ballina northside

I really enjoyed all those clips.

Especially the push off on Kellys clip at Sandbar

Reminds me of my last few surfs

It seems to me that the better waves are by-products not where it was set out to create a wave.

Still think there must be a way to create a offshore structure that captures lateral sand drift and makes a wave without causing downstream erosion.

The sand spit back wash makes the snapper backwash pretty tame but it has got me a few times.

the left in India was sick, if only goverments in WA would commit to a few artificial reefs in poorer wave zones.

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soleman said...
the left in India was sick, if only goverments in WA would commit to a few artificial reefs in poorer wave zones.

they already have. they are just keeping it a secret

This one they call the million dollar wave in santa cruz as that what it costs to keep the entry open for the boats each year.

Apparently you can get a fine for surfing here.

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chrispychru said...

soleman said...
the left in India was sick, if only goverments in WA would commit to a few artificial reefs in poorer wave zones.

they already have. they are just keeping it a secret

haha classic, gotta love those perth lads and their "secret beachies"!!

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soleman said...

chrispychru said...

soleman said...
the left in India was sick, if only goverments in WA would commit to a few artificial reefs in poorer wave zones.

they already have. they are just keeping it a secret

haha classic, gotta love those perth lads and their "secret beachies"!!

Scabs and Trigg can be seen from space, its no secret

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doggie said...
Scabs and Trigg can be seen from space, its no secret

That's because the only Man Made objects visible from space are the Great Wall of China, and Stand-Up Bloody Paddle boards....

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LateStarter said...

doggie said...
Scabs and Trigg can be seen from space, its no secret

That's because the only Man Made objects visible from space are the Great Wall of China, and Stand-Up Bloody Paddle boards....

never been there...but that made fucing laugh

perths version looks a bit average doesnt it
its funny how the best man made waves seem to be by accident.

Not sure if the design at cables is good or not, but the fact is that very little swell gets to that area of the coast.

When it does get swell, there is usually plenty of waves everywhere else in Perth anyway.

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Indodreaming said...
It seems to me that the better waves are by-products not where it was set out to create a wave.

Still think there must be a way to create a offshore structure that captures lateral sand drift and makes a wave without causing downstream erosion.

The sand spit back wash makes the snapper backwash pretty tame but it has got me a few times.

A lot of the reefs have been designed primarily for coastal management works with the surfing side of the equation a secondary benefit. Narrowneck on the Goldie is a perfect example of this. And usually when they talk surfing - it includes all potential users of the spot.

If you want one in Perth there is no reason you can not start a grass-roots movement yourself and see where you can take it. Its clear that cashola is not in short supply over West these days and that they are more than happy to look at housing developments that impact the coastal zone. In NSW canal type estates have been banned for quiet some time.......so over West if you want to do something about it you need to get busy. I would suggest that you need to think about the project benefits beyond just the surfing component if you want buy-in from all sides of the equation. Check out Surfriders principles re artificial reefs as you will want them on board (I can introduce you to the WA branch if you wish). Also think about areas that could benefit from the protection that an artificial reef acting as an end control structure would have. I would also encourage you to investigate the work that Andrew at Surfing Ramps did in Cronulla over east. Andrew is a super nice bloke and very approachable. He loves to chat about this sort of stuff and has some great ideas. He is not a classically trained coastal engineer which can offer a refreshing view at times. He is a doer. Have a read about the Northward Drift and how that impacts longshore sand transport on yr side of the continent. If you require any help to get you going send me a PM and I will help you out.

Up until this point in time the success of dedicated surfing reefs has been relatively poor in my opinion.....but you could also argue that many of them were not permitted to be made / or were completed as initially intended for a variety of reasons. You do not have to search very far to find a lot of people who feel extremely let down by what has occurred and this I imagine would be a big issue that you would need to overcome. Sand nourishment on the other hand has some great success stories - think Snapper.

However - you come from the West - have a liberal govt and lots of resources types with cashola to burn and have erosion issues to deal with. I would think that your State is as good as any to have a crack. Engineering works to address the medium term issue of coastal erosion here in NSW have been off the table for some time with the ideology of 'planned retreat' the favoured method....that looks like it may change under our new govt but it will be a while I would suggest. You can play this card.

Have a crack - your fellow Perth strugglers will love ya for it....but just remember it will not be a secret spot and you may find some stickered board owners down there creating issues for ya

Here is some reading to get you started on your adventure!!!

http://www.swellnet.com.au/news/2462-cronulla-s-latest-surfspot-all-new-all-natural

www.swellnet.com.au/news/3041-the-mechanics-of-the-sand-slug

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soleman said...
the left in India was sick, if only goverments in WA would commit to a few artificial reefs in poorer wave zones.

ll admit i really like the idea of surfing a reef that was made by man with the add of Elephants This one is my fav.

Does anyone know how to post a PDF document as part of a post ?

Just take a screen shot of it and post it as a jpg as per normal....if using a Mac - command/Shift 4 and on a PC use the print screen button.

The one in Cott is a shambles....it was put in deep water where the get minimum swell.....they would of been better off building it further north where they get more swell and they can use the lateral sand movement....the sand movement down near freo is up the cack thanks to the groynes, harbour, rottnest, garden island and all the fat rich ****s

Or in WA you could just buy a boat.... No artificial reefs needed.,,,,

Did anyone look into the Island development they were wanting to put in of North freo

I liked the idea personally because i could see a opportunity for more boating facility's but also there was also a Artificial Reef planned as well

I can't see it ever getting of the ground

I would like to see a Artifical reef built North of hillary's. A lot of swell hits that area and it would benifit from a good spot. Also with a few reefs that could be simply added to shape something worth while would be easier maybe.. I think teh sand movement and deeper water may be a issue though

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jbshack said...
Did anyone look into the Island development they were wanting to put in of North freo

I liked the idea personally because i could see a opportunity for more boating facility's but also there was also a Artificial Reef planned as well

I can't see it ever getting of the ground

I would like to see a Artifical reef built North of hillary's. A lot of swell hits that area and it would benifit from a good spot. Also with a few reefs that could be simply added to shape something worth while would be easier maybe.. I think teh sand movement and deeper water may be a issue though

are you talking offshore reefs or inshore reefs

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katana said...

jbshack said...
Did anyone look into the Island development they were wanting to put in of North freo

I liked the idea personally because i could see a opportunity for more boating facility's but also there was also a Artificial Reef planned as well

I can't see it ever getting of the ground

I would like to see a Artificial reef built North of Hillary's. A lot of swell hits that area and it would benefit from a good spot. Also with a few reefs that could be simply added to shape something worth while would be easier maybe.. I think the sand movement and deeper water may be a issue though

are you talking offshore reefs or inshore reefs

Inshore reefs for North Of Hillary's. On the right swell ( i guess that restricts it a little) you will get a good lot of swell right through that area pocking its head between the outer reefs and hitting a rocky head land for the better part. I also like the idea of it closer to me Dave

You still enjoying the joys of the Lifting Yard Dave Hated when my boat was ever in their[}:)]

we tried an artificle wave structure in that area about 6 years ago and had immediate results, needed more work!! hopefully keen to do some more in the future with some new contacts ive found.
oh yeh JB i hate it when my boats up there

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katana said...
we tried an artificle wave structure in that area about 6 years ago and had immediate results, needed more work!! hopefully keen to do some more in the future with some new contacts ive found.
oh yeh JB i hate it when my boats up there

Glad my area isn't a complete right of for choice..

The yard just leaves you dirty and violated