shipsterns is one place i have no desire to surf i can picture myself (dreaming) doing an AI style standup barrell at teahupoo or dropping in at massive p-pass, cruising and casually styling through a monster cloudbreak barrell,pair of boardies ,beer with banana daquiri chaser and hula girls waiting. but shipsterns evokes none of that from me...its not the size (ok ,its a little the size)always looks cold,ugly uninviting and bleak most of the setups look great in tas ..never surfed there,but they look awesome but shipsterns......... i've had more inviting root canal therapy!