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Surf culture in the 90's

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Created by bakesy > 9 months ago, 22 Jun 2011
Poida
WA, 1922 posts
28 Jun 2011 11:01AM
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I liked the Hawaii 90 series of videos, they were the hardcore, great soundtrack and heralded the 90's surf performance culture.
I remember the shots of Tom Carrol in the pipe masters paddling around and onto a massive pipe peak on a huge 7'11" pin tail board or there abouts.

I spent nearly every second weekend and every holiday of the nineties down south on a bush block outside of prevally. I cant recall what happened in the rest of the world. I used to like smaller sized main break on the clean offshore days, when the main chargers thought it was too small to surf, but it was still double overhead on the sets. great times.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
28 Jun 2011 11:36AM
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Legion said...

bakesy said...

... they will ... sell practical products such as footwear, sunnies, bottled water and an energy drink ...

Sorry, not for me. I buy on functionality, and do extensive research to find it. Marketing means less than nothing to me. Sunnies I buy what works based on lens and frame tech., footwear it's thongs, uggies, DBs. Never buy bottled water or energy drinks (lots of choc milk though).

doggie will buy all that crap though .

You should get them to put up their projects on the 'net for us to have a look at.


Thats funny I dont think I even have a Ripquikbong t,shirt. Oh I have a west back pack that I use for travelling but thats it. Dont mind an iced coffee and a pie after a surf tho

bakesy
WA, 682 posts
28 Jun 2011 12:11PM
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yeah Doggie I'm the same, the kids have certainly learnt that functionality, price and a no BS style is the way to go. This is what has made it a challenging task, as they read the responses (and check old surf mags) they begin to realise that the "machine" that is the surf industry must sell a lot of stuff to non-surfers and that perhaps we are a savvy bunch that could care less about marketing, or that we can spot a scam or fad a mile away. The products I gave them to market to the 90's surfer have all been adapted to reflect what they have picked up on from these threads. Rip Curl is an interesting one though, not sure about them.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
28 Jun 2011 12:32PM
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bakesy said...

yeah Doggie I'm the same, the kids have certainly learnt that functionality, price and a no BS style is the way to go. This is what has made it a challenging task, as they read the responses (and check old surf mags) they begin to realise that the "machine" that is the surf industry must sell a lot of stuff to non-surfers and that perhaps we are a savvy bunch that could care less about marketing, or that we can spot a scam or fad a mile away. The products I gave them to market to the 90's surfer have all been adapted to reflect what they have picked up on from these threads. Rip Curl is an interesting one though, not sure about them.


MMMmmm ripcurl, jury is out on them atm. I used to use rc wetties all the time, now not. I dont think they are the company they used to be. Even their street wear falls apart now! Alot of people still use their wetties but after heaps of problems I changed to Oneill.
Its funny how people will buy surfing gear (street wear) but wont touch any other sports except for dirt bike stuff (FOX ect)

Jonopark
WA, 400 posts
28 Jun 2011 3:43PM
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GONAD MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!
surf mags were so much better back then. Now surf mags are similiar to reading FHM mags
although ****thorpe is a hero

Hamsta
505 posts
28 Jun 2011 5:41PM
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Lash Clone had moments too , as did CG, the Pig of Steel.

theDoctor
NSW, 5786 posts
29 Jun 2011 1:33PM
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pretty well summed up when 'only a surfer knows the feeling' is trademarked.

legion has (expertly) stirred up a lot of ghosts from my own past, different names different places

same feelings, emotions, experiences that have made me who I am and wouldn't change for all the money in the world.


Prawnhead
NSW, 1317 posts
29 Jun 2011 1:58PM
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Hamsta said...

Lash Clone had moments too , as did CG, the Pig of Steel.


Here's 2 of em
goodvibes was and still is my favourite




Dazza65
QLD, 389 posts
29 Jun 2011 2:01PM
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Geez, this thread is bringing back some awesome memories of my days back in West Oz.
I learned to surf at Trigg Point in the mid to late 70's and surfed the point very regularly up to the late 90's before moving east for work. Biggest mistake I made in the 90's was selling my house 400m from the point when I moved east, spewing I sold it before prices went ridiculous!
My memories of the 90's are just rocking up to the point on any morning and without fail there would be some of your mates also checking out the surf. If the surf was on you hit it if not you would just hang out and have a chin wag with your buddies. I was a member of Trigg Point Boardriders and will have life long memories of the great bunch of guys and girls involved in the club and surf trips south and north which were always a laugh. I cant believe we actually used to hold club comps at the point. Of course the older you got the surf just seemed to get worse and the days when the point broke out behind the reef just seemed to disappear.
In the 90's my folks owned an on-site van at Yallingup caravan park so it was a regular to organise a weekend jaunt down south. Used to be able to get up the bears track in a panel van, if there was a boggy patch of sand you would just drop the tail gate and have two guys bounce on it to get through. Crowds also appeared to be a lot less and there was always a 'secret' spot you could surf when the conditions were right. Moved to Sydney in the late 90's and remember surfing none the wiser after a storm in brown muck and getting very ill, fortunately soon after the NSW councils woke up and started treating the stormwater before pumping it out into the surf.
As for trends;
-Westsuits went from flouro 80's to black 90's
-Boards were thin pro copies with stacks of rocker (well mine were)
-Grunge and death metal were it (surf gigs and mosh pits were synonomous and dangerous)
-Trips down south were quicker so more regular (did some one dayers)
-Boardrider club team events took off
-Awesome (underground) surfers (non pro tour) were being recognised

Thanks for raising the thread Bakesy, have loved recollecting my 90's experiences. I think you were one of my bro's (Todd) buddies way back then. Good Luck!

bakesy
WA, 682 posts
29 Jun 2011 3:38PM
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Dazza Kerr, legend!! still see Toddy every now and then, he works a lot and is 200k away rather than 200m (as was the case in the 80's and 90's). Love to see his story on here( spent a bit of time in that onsite van myself!) but pretty sure he doesn't do the forum thing or surf as much these days. Good to hear from ya.

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
29 Jun 2011 6:42PM
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KEARNSY said...

Great thread!

I was a grom in the 90's in Qld . I remember surfing Kirra as good as it gets uncrouded . VERY UNCROUDED at South Straddie. Noosa still had dirt path's in the National Park. Double Island Point only one car would stop for a surf . We all had long hair , and the chicks loved it! $2 tallies at the Burliegh heads Drive through!

One thing that I think was a main difference was the weather patterns . There used to be afternoon glass offs a few times a week , and the swells were alot more consistent .

We all drove VC/VH "Dunnydoor" wagons and listened to either Aussie Rock and Alternative music or American Punk rock. Surf movies were very popular - Suns of Fun , Focus , Billabong Challenge,, still some of the best flicks ever made IMO!

Quite often on a long weekend we would fang down to "Newy" over a friday night then Hit Angourie , Lennox on the way back up..... Ahh soo much driving and we just didnt care . Every one seemed stoked on surfing and just hanging out.

Alot of Asians in the surf on the Gold coast and a few fights starting to show up here and there , especially when Boat man started running across the seaway to TOS.

Best Era of my life!!! would I do it all over the same again? Bloody oath!


I'm guessing we are around the same age. I was on the Goldy then as well. Long hair, surfing all day and hitting the Playroom, Hill Street, The Patch or Fishos and then The Party and Bensons at the other end with the Mainy and Mermaid boys at night.

Pre-Boatman was a different time, I still remember crowds at TOS though I never really surfed that end much. Lived on D'bah hill for a while, pre-super bank. Best pits of my life at Kirra. Pipedream Surfboards, old Cortina with removable gear stick.

The 90's for me were pre living O/S and post. Slightly different but mostly the same. Early 90's Goldy then Lennox/Ballina. Then Goldy, then OS then back to stay. Still here.

The 90's were without doubt a golden time.

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
29 Jun 2011 8:46PM
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We used to do fuel savers as poor bums. From up just past the Eagle Bay turnoff towards the lighthouse, chuck it in neutral and kill the engine then switch it back to IGN so the brakes and steering worked and see how far up the other side you could make it. The curve and bridge at the bottom of the hill with the lillies was pretty sketchy. Sometimes you'd hit ~90km/h.

My mate tried to fishtail his shorty 40 on the Lefties track. It was gravel (probably bitumen nowadays) and corrugated. He lost it and ended up off the road in the scrub. They couldn't drag it out backwards so he had to get pulled out forwards and ended up leaving a 50m long gouge in the bush. It lasted for years and years.

Same mate in the 40 with four of us heading down at holiday time. Holiday traffic and single lanes. A mate's sister and a bunch of chicks were in someone's mum's expensive car (probably a Beemer or Merc or something). Buddy thought he'd be ultra cool and pass on the inside, on the gravel shoulder, with his arm hanging out the window. He wasn't the most experienced driver at the best of times. We survived, somehow.

Same mate, me and him at the Swannie playing pool in the middle of the day one day. A tradie was at the bottle-o and left his car in neutral with the park brake as he picked up a few. We heard a big bang and everyone went to the door. The tradie's ute rolled down the steep driveway, hit the 40, it jumped the curb and the front spring hangers ended up piercing someone's car bonnet in the TAB carpark a metre below. Nothing we could do, so back to the middies and pool. It took a fair amount of skill and effort from a towie to remove it. Not our fault. The poor tradie was mortified. Nothing happened to the 40, the ute was smashed right in, the car below had bonnet and possible engine damage.

Bender
WA, 2236 posts
29 Jun 2011 9:14PM
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Cool I had a FJ40 with a holden 253 V8 in it for most of the 90's. To this day i miss it. They are the original unbreakable 4WD.

It never got bogged and just loved the rough stuff like Gallows back track and Blackers wet track

Poida
WA, 1922 posts
29 Jun 2011 9:28PM
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We used to do the same, put the car in neutral coming down the hill from yallingup to Dunsborough. Used to see how far we could roll, sometimes rolled intro town..

I remember after one memorable weekend near yallingup we went to the Sunday session and kept enough money between all of us for petrol to get home. For some reason we thought we should use the money to buy a carton rather than petrol. We drank the carton with some others friends we met, and partied till midnight on a sunday night. We then siphoned fuel out of cars at caves house to get home (apologies). Got home about 4am. I think we were late for work Monday.

Bender
WA, 2236 posts
29 Jun 2011 9:45PM
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AAhh yes Sunday sesh's at Caves house and then driving back to Bunno. More than once we would get through busso and then drive along the beach all the way back to avoid Mr Plod.

Geez i wouldn't even consider it nowadays

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
29 Jun 2011 9:48PM
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Poida said...

We used to do the same, put the car in neutral coming down the hill from yallingup to Dunsborough. Used to see how far we could roll, sometimes rolled intro town..

Ah yeah, forgot that one. Also down the hill from up near Inji turnoff past Smiths turnoff.

bakesy
WA, 682 posts
29 Jun 2011 10:00PM
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well speaking of rolling cars. Mate and I went to Walpole for surf and marron, slept under a bridge in the middle of nowhere about 15kms out of town, caught marron through the night, drank a carton and feasted on fresh marron. During the day, drove the boat over to a spot at the river mouth (really,really sharky!!) surfed an awesome A frame with pods of dolphins and a few locals. Wind would come in and we'd head home across the inlet pick up a few KG whiting, herring or bream for lunch and cook em up at the camp under the bridge. Saturday saw us head to the pub to watch the Eagles, parked the XC panel van in the carpark, left the dog (Dave the red cloud) in the car and played some pool until the match started. About 20 minutes later a bloke walked in and said "just saw the weirdest thing, a red cloud driving a panel van through the carpark!" upon hearing this my mate and I looked out the large window overlooking the modest carpark and noticed the XC wedged in a ringlock fence that bordered the pub. We rushed out, past the laughing local boys and found one sheepish looking red cloud and a bit of minor damage to the fence/car. Seems I forgot to put the handbrake on in my rush for a cold middy and he'd jumped on the gear selector (on the steering column) and knocked it into neutral.He had managed to steer it (I like to think he did it!) about 50m down the hill into the fence. No harm done, repaired the fence with the help of the locals, the publican was cool and even let Dave come in the pub and enjoy a packet of Burger Rings! A few beers went down and the Eagles won, pretty good day all round,have been visiting Walpole/Denmark since the 70's, still love that place even though it's changed heaps.

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
30 Jun 2011 4:48PM
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On the subject of cars my mate had a VW beetle and i remember on trips down to Falcon or further south (from Greenmount Hills area) we'd on hot days have to stop and let it cool down. Mostly crossing through Mundijong. We would play footy in the paddocks and often have to run from charging bulls.

Fred Rubble
WA, 96 posts
2 Jul 2011 9:59AM
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With the contribution that Legion makes to these forums what would posess Laurie to even think about banning him
Great stories Legion
I thoroughly enjoyed the read about the good old days

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
4 Jul 2011 9:15AM
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Stupidstupid said...

With the contribution that Legion makes to these forums what would posess Laurie to even think about banning him
Great stories Legion
I thoroughly enjoyed the read about the good old days


The boys in the SUP room wouldnt agree sadly

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
4 Jul 2011 12:10PM
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I can't post there any more now due to a forum setting, so they can live in their happy little world, oblivious to how they're perceived.

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
4 Jul 2011 12:23PM
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The cold sand this morning froze my feet. It reminded me of a time at Rocky Point. The offshore blowing over the cape was freezing, with frequent showers. We almost made it to the point when hail started pelting down. God it was cold, but there's something magical about being in a wetsuit with fresh water dripping down your face.

On the way back everything was wet, like it gets in the forests down south. Light reflecting off a million drops of water hanging from the peppermint gum leaves. It's a nice track, almost like a tunnel through the trees.

Back in the car and back to the bakery for some hot lunch. When it was quiet and you didn't have to queue up and nothing had sold out.

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
4 Jul 2011 12:30PM
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You used to park on the road on the way to the lighthouse, climb over the fence and stand in the paddock just to the right to get a view of The Farm. Then you'd suit up on the side of the road and run down the hill, across the paddock to the dunes, letting the slope make you do big moon steps. It'd be stormy and offshore, big swells wrapping right around the cape and lining up across the whole shallow bay.

Nowadays it's a resort. My wife's friends call it "Bunkers", and stay there for $500 a night.

GPA
WA, 2529 posts
4 Jul 2011 1:37PM
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Legion said...

You used to park on the road on the way to the lighthouse, climb over the fence and stand in the paddock just to the right to get a view of The Farm. Then you'd suit up on the side of the road and run down the hill, across the paddock to the dunes, letting the slope make you do big moon steps. It'd be stormy and offshore, big swells wrapping right around the cape and lining up across the whole shallow bay.

Nowadays it's a resort. My wife's friends call it "Bunkers", and stay there for $500 a night.


Was down that way between Xmas and NY year before last and with a biggish swell and onshore winds decided to check it out mid afternoon one day - what a joke... it was that packed that there was a dozen cars parked off the top of the main carpark... and even though I was dead keen, I couldn't bring myself to join the 30-40 crew already crowding the one good head high peak... not too many drop-ins that I saw, but it was just a full on dodge'em course... bodies and boards everywhere

bakesy
WA, 682 posts
5 Jul 2011 5:45PM
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Well the class has certainly learned a lot from reading the posts. Today they revealed their company names and their spiel on the philosophy of the 90's surfer. They have learnt to use the 'lingo' and have a pretty good handle on the "only a surfer knows the feeling (thanks Doggie) idea, with each group nailing the defining of that feeling. Some of the products they have designed include wax, choc milk and an after surf deodorant called "Berley" (to attract chicks!) Company names include Get Wet, Zephyr, Crest, Wedge and Point Break. Legion you appear to have affected them the most, with all the students very impressed with your writing style. A few have said you should "defs" and "totes" write a book Thanks again for your time and keep the stories flowing boys, the assessment is due in two weeks!

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
5 Jul 2011 9:00PM
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bakesy said...

... an after surf deodorant called "Berley" (to attract chicks!)

Someone's been watching Seinfeld reruns (another quintessential 90s thing).

"I got a great idea for a cologne. It's called 'The Beach'. You spray it on, and it's just like you came home from the beach."



Hmm, wax, choc milk and deodorant. All essential items. Good work grommies.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
6 Jul 2011 4:00PM
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Legion said...

I can't post there any more now due to a forum setting, so they can live in their happy little world, oblivious to how they're perceived.


There is a who thread on you Legion, in the SUP room, some interesting reading.

Torch
WA, 521 posts
6 Jul 2011 6:14PM
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they dont make em like they use to....

GPA
WA, 2529 posts
6 Jul 2011 8:19PM
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Torch said...




they dont make em like they use to....



What a great logo - iconic!

lost at sea
WA, 358 posts
6 Jul 2011 8:25PM
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you could keep grommets in check tell mal riders to hit the road, if you know what i mean and belt any shoulder loving, skirt wearing nancey boy who drops in on you [}:)] AHHHH the 90's it was such a politically incorrect time MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM gezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I miss them



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