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nightmonkey
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26 Apr 2012 8:30am
Since having my Hernia op i've been going to physio and pilates. I have learnt so much about stretching and as much i keep myself reasonably fit. I still have only learnt the degree of stretching i need. Hopefully this will improve my surfing aswell. The only stretch i can't really find is one for my arms/shoulders before a surf. Anyone got any tips????
doggie
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26 Apr 2012 10:30am
I try and really get my lower back and groin to streach out before a surf, my mate did his groin and he was out for ages
nightmonkey
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26 Apr 2012 12:16pm
I stretched slowly over and hour this morning before heading down for a surf. Can't believe the difference, was still a bit rusty not surfed much lately but body felt so much better on the first wave.
kadilak
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26 Apr 2012 3:59pm
nightmonkey said...

Since having my Hernia op i've been going to physio and pilates. I have learnt so much about stretching and as much i keep myself reasonably fit. I still have only learnt the degree of stretching i need. Hopefully this will improve my surfing aswell. The only stretch i can't really find is one for my arms/shoulders before a surf. Anyone got any tips????


Find yourself a sports physio that surfs. Mine only costs $10 per session after medial insurance, dirt cheap and can focus on your specific needs.
newguy
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26 Apr 2012 4:26pm
Stretching as a pre-sport warm-up does not actually prevent injury. If you do it regularly on it's own, it promotes flexibility and that's what helps reduce chances of doing something. It's more of a psychological thing.

What you want to do before any hard exercise is warm up you body and get the blood flowing. This is what warm-ups are for. A little jog up the beach is better than the couple minutes stretch staring at the waves.

In saying that, you also don't want to stretch your shoulders too much. It's held in place predominantly by ligaments susupending it in it's capsule. Stretching too much may even loosen the joint and you'll end up with shoulders that may 'pop' out a lot or increase your chances of that.
Sham1984
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26 Apr 2012 6:37pm
I agree newguy, i was always taught that you should do joint and muscle "movements", rather than stretches before a surf. get the blood flowing

and stretching/yoga sessions on their own to improve your flexibility.
nightmonkey
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WA
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26 Apr 2012 5:14pm
Awesome advice guys, thanks heaps. Its all food for thought for me. Am big on self improvement and gonna do what it takes to get right.
fozzy
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SA
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26 Apr 2012 8:09pm
newguy said...

What you want to do before any hard exercise is warm up you body and get the blood flowing. This is what warm-ups are for.



I thought that's what the paddle out was for, at least that's where I do my warm up.

newguy
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26 Apr 2012 7:11pm
fozzy said...

newguy said...

What you want to do before any hard exercise is warm up you body and get the blood flowing. This is what warm-ups are for.



I thought that's what the paddle out was for, at least that's where I do my warm up.




In a sense it is but proper paddling technique does require that reaching out motion and you can easily stretch a muscle. Not to mention it can get hectic when sets are coming in hard and fast. A warm-up shouldn't be strenuous, something light like a little jog down to the shore line before you chuck your leggie on. Worse comes to worse, leave your heater on full blast before you get out of your car
brownie49
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26 Apr 2012 9:33pm
newguy said...

Stretching as a pre-sport warm-up does not actually prevent injury. If you do it regularly on it's own, it promotes flexibility and that's what helps reduce chances of doing something. It's more of a psychological thing.

What you want to do before any hard exercise is warm up you body and get the blood flowing. This is what warm-ups are for. A little jog up the beach is better than the couple minutes stretch staring at the waves.

In saying that, you also don't want to stretch your shoulders too much. It's held in place predominantly by ligaments susupending it in it's capsule. Stretching too much may even loosen the joint and you'll end up with shoulders that may 'pop' out a lot or increase your chances of that.


Spot on, movements involving your major muscle groups and joints eg lower back for us old farts is the best way to lessen the chances of injury but more importantly get your body ready for action

Buster fin
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26 Apr 2012 8:53pm
brownie49 said...

newguy said...

Stretching as a pre-sport warm-up does not actually prevent injury. If you do it regularly on it's own, it promotes flexibility and that's what helps reduce chances of doing something. It's more of a psychological thing.

What you want to do before any hard exercise is warm up you body and get the blood flowing. This is what warm-ups are for. A little jog up the beach is better than the couple minutes stretch staring at the waves.

In saying that, you also don't want to stretch your shoulders too much. It's held in place predominantly by ligaments susupending it in it's capsule. Stretching too much may even loosen the joint and you'll end up with shoulders that may 'pop' out a lot or increase your chances of that.


Spot on, movements involving your major muscle groups and joints eg lower back for us old farts is the best way to lessen the chances of injury but more importantly get your body ready for action




+1

It has been said by some in the field that stretching after exercise is more beneficial as this releases the build up of lactic acid caused by the exercise itself, promoting less muscle fatigue.
Daneli
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27 Apr 2012 11:41pm
doggie said...

I try and really get my lower back and groin to streach out before a surf, my mate did his groin and he was out for ages


I always thought you would be very susceptible to an overuse groin injury
little o
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WA
405 posts
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29 Apr 2012 2:41pm
yes I agree. Read a paper on this recently. If you want to stretch you should do static (still) stretches first then do movements such as a run, moving yoga

I am a big advocate for the connection between yoga and surfing.

updog - when your on a steep wave stops nose dive
warrior - getting your foot inbetween your hands helps the lower abs which are so important for the jump up

If your weak in the core - pilates, if you need flexibilty and strength - yoga

also my old housemate goes for male:female ratio
Daneli
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30 Apr 2012 8:00pm
crusher said...

https://surfbodysoul.com

Check out this web site, the bloke is a trained physio, yoga and pilates instructor and surfer.

The blog has some good reading plus many stretching hints.




Hi Crusher, Have you got these? Any good mate? What do you get, just and audio or a DVD? My speed to my feet is slowing these days and I need to do something about it or I'll be riding boogers soon.
crusher
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NT
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1 May 2012 3:45pm
Daneli said...

crusher said...

https://surfbodysoul.com

Check out this web site, the bloke is a trained physio, yoga and pilates instructor and surfer.

The blog has some good reading plus many stretching hints.




Hi Crusher, Have you got these? Any good mate? What do you get, just and audio or a DVD? My speed to my feet is slowing these days and I need to do something about it or I'll be riding boogers soon.


Gday Daneli, I havent signed up and paid for his programs but Ive been reading his blog for a while and have practiced some of his stretches. There is a free tester program you can download of his site. He looks to me to be really onto fitness for surfers. I do pay for yoga classes 1-2 times a week and I you tube yoga classes imbetween those days. I rekon its the key to keeping enjoying surfing into middle - older age. Yoga has many other benefits Ive found, check out the latest Surf World and what Gerry Lopez says about it.

Good luck staying off the lid
doggie
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WA
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2 May 2012 2:44pm
Daneli said...

doggie said...

I try and really get my lower back and groin to streach out before a surf, my mate did his groin and he was out for ages


I always thought you would be very susceptible to an overuse groin injury


kadilak
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2 May 2012 9:04pm
little o said...




warrior - getting your foot inbetween your hands helps the lower abs which are so important for the jump up




Tell me more, just learning and getting the front foot between hands is still challenging. What part of warrior helps here?
62mac
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2 May 2012 7:13pm
As an old guy just walking to the waters edge is enough
kadilak
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QLD
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2 May 2012 9:23pm
62mac said...

As an old guy just walking to the waters edge is enough


Nah, serious Mac. Try to do this:



I can't My front foot ends up under my back knee not between my hands (if that makes any sense)

I've been watching heaps of yoga video's and I still have no flexibility
Sham1984
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VIC
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3 May 2012 10:20am
kadilak said...


I've been watching heaps of yoga video's and I still have no flexibility


There's your problem

little o
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WA
405 posts
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3 May 2012 5:53pm
it you do a sun salutation sequence there is a part where you go from a down dog to putting your foot inbetween your hands. That is something which really helped me going from arching back just after paddling to jump up.

kadilak said...

little o said...




warrior - getting your foot inbetween your hands helps the lower abs which are so important for the jump up




Tell me more, just learning and getting the front foot between hands is still challenging. What part of warrior helps here?


kadilak
kadilak
QLD
605 posts
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5 May 2012 8:45pm
little o said...

it you do a sun salutation sequence there is a part where you go from a down dog to putting your foot inbetween your hands. That is something which really helped me going from arching back just after paddling to jump up.

kadilak said...

little o said...




warrior - getting your foot inbetween your hands helps the lower abs which are so important for the jump up




Tell me more, just learning and getting the front foot between hands is still challenging. What part of warrior helps here?





My downward dog looks more like an arch, and the foot that comes forward does not make it anywhere near the hands.
little o
little o
WA
405 posts
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5 May 2012 10:10pm
put the foot your about to bring towards your hands straight up and back behind you first (http://www.yogajournal.com/basics/2338), then bring through to hands. It should come further This is a trick I was taught which really helps me on those still days.

Also with down dog try 1/2 down dog on a wall. Focus on bringing heart down
www.ehow.com/video_4944898_yoga-downward-facing-dog-wall.html
that will help you feel what a down dog should feel like. Then when you go to do a full down dog bend your knees a lot to get a better shape in the upper back. It's first about the shoulders and back opening then you can start to pedal your feet up and down (lift and raise heels) to slowly stretch out the hamstrings.

It takes me 10 sun salutations to get to my normal state of flexibility.

the most important thing too is to breathe.....sounds simple but everyone holds their breath when the first start yoga (I still do it at times)
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