This would a be a great event to witness first hand. It won't even run unless the waves are bigger than 20' Hawaiian scale. So 40' is the starting/qualifying size

http://www.thesurfchannel.com/news/20141104/30th-annual-quiksilver-in-memory-of-eddie-aikau/

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bjshack said..
This would a be a great event to witness first hand. It won't even run unless the waves are bigger than 20' Hawaiian scale. So 40' is the starting/qualifying size

Most surfers in Australia use Hawaiian measurements. Kooks use the American scale. So you didn't need to double it, that's the kook scale.

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Legion said..

bjshack said..
This would a be a great event to witness first hand. It won't even run unless the waves are bigger than 20' Hawaiian scale. So 40' is the starting/qualifying size

Most surfers in Australia use Hawaiian measurements. Kooks use the American scale. So you didn't need to double it, that's the kook scale.

Wow you must be such a great surfer.. Really i must be a kook, and most Aussie surfers i know must also be kooks, actually all the worlds surf forecasting sites must also be kooks, thanks so much for preaching your wisdom on all us kooks..

To be far many of the surfers i met at Disney land also talked up the face, so even they must be kooks..

Here we go again.

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Wow you must be such a great surfer.. Really i must be a kook, and most Aussie surfers i know must also be kooks ...

Obviously, if that's the system you use.

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bjshack said..
... actually all the worlds surf forecasting sites must also be kooks

All the American ones will use their system. Yep.

Beej, it's not "my" system, it's the common Australian system. This argument comes up time and time again. But a simple way to reconcile it is to watch a few ASP broadcasts. You'll notice that Pottz and Ronnie Blakey and Ross Williams use the proper system and events in Australia, Fiji, Tahiti, Hawaii call it in those measurements (but not the surfline forecast). You'll notice events in America and Brazil call it in the American system. Not sure about Europe.

Old unemployed commentators like Occy and Snake used the same Australian system.

Go to a boardriders comp or a state comp and see how they call it.

By all means follow the "Joe Turpel" system, bj. I'll keep using the system that's been commonplace in Australian surfing since about the 70s.

This is a funny argument because I'm trying to help you. You obviously don't believe me but if you call a wave in the American system you _will_ be automatically thought of as a kook in front of any long time Australian surfers, in my experience.

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Legion said..
Here we go again.

bjshack said..
Wow you must be such a great surfer.. Really i must be a kook, and most Aussie surfers i know must also be kooks ...

Obviously, if that's the system you use.

bjshack said..
... actually all the worlds surf forecasting sites must also be kooks

All the American ones will use their system. Yep.

Beej, it's not "my" system, it's the common Australian system. This argument comes up time and time again. But a simple way to reconcile it is to watch a few ASP broadcasts. You'll notice that Pottz and Ronnie Blakey and Ross Williams use the proper system and events in Australia, Fiji, Tahiti, Hawaii call it in those measurements (but not the surfline forecast). You'll notice events in America and Brazil call it in the American system. Not sure about Europe.

Old unemployed commentators like Occy and Snake used the same Australian system.

Go to a boardriders comp or a state comp and see how they call it.

By all means follow the "Joe Turpel" system, bj. I'll keep using the system that's been commonplace in Australian surfing since about the 70s.

This is a funny argument because I'm trying to help you. You obviously don't believe me but if you call a wave in the American system you _will_ be automatically thought of as a kook in front of any long time Australian surfers, in my experience.

Im so glad you helping a kook like me Thanks. But just to clarify as the way i read it you are saying in Australia everyone talks about the measuring the rear of the wave height.. Not up the face as i have always considered most people do.. I am well aware of the two different measurements.. I was often shocked still whilst surfing Disney Land and having people tell me it was only 3 to 4 ' or maybe bomb sets at 4' to 6'..

Either way 20' waves Hawaiian or 40' waves for the kooks would still be an incredible event to watch..

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bjshack said..But just to clarify as the way i read it you are saying in Australia everyone talks about the measuring the rear of the wave height.. Not up the face as i have always considered most people do..

Yes. As a quick example I checked coastalwatch:

"1-2ft"

and swellnet:

"2ft (Waist-Shoulder High)"

both for Perth. So there are two forecasting sites that obviously use the Australian system. In my limited experience, people who use the American system are Americans, beginners, sup or windsurf or whatever crossover type people. Long time surfers pretty much all grew up with the one I use. The exception is those from before the 60s, when they used the American system here as well I think, before the "busting down the door" thing happened and we adopted the Hawaiian system. I think that's how the history goes.

Or as I say, watch and listen to the world tour and listen to how all the Australians call the wave sizes. Same way I grew up with, same as everyone I know and surf with does.

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bjshack said..
Im so glad you helping a kook like me Thanks.

You're welcome.

I have a 12 inch d1ck.

Thanks for letting me share.

Ankle, Waist, Chest, HEad, Head and a half, Double Head, Over double, etc.
Universal, except i'm 5 foot 7 so might be different for you massive legends.

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trevor1 said..
I have a 12 inch d1ck.

Thanks for letting me share.

But do you measure it from the back or the front One way is correct, the other makes you a kook..

I like to think of it in animal size all creatures would of course be riding an appropriate board
Ie would a smurf fit in the barrel. Yes ankle height.
Would yoda fit in the barrel. Knee maybe waist.
Could a goat fit in the barrel. Waist/chest
Could I walk a fridge through the barrel.head to head and a half depending on fridge size amount of beer. Angle of wave, water moving slabiness of the wave. Lets say its cold water your 300 metres out and stand up pits. That is head and a half any day of the week. If you are in warm water on a hollow but mellow point it is head, maybe head and a bit. ( pushing)
When it does get to double head, that is pretty solid ( very ) and If you can stand in a barrel with your hands out/up and not touch the sides or roof it's 4-6 foot. 10 to 12 is twice ( review pipeline) that Anyone who tells you other wise is a pipe master or master piper. I've been the guy down south calling 4 foot 6 foot and the guy in indo calling 6 foot 4 foot. Now it's more consequence than size for me. I'd rather surf double head snapper than head and a half box

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Grevas said..
Ankle, Waist, Chest, HEad, Head and a half, Double Head, Over double, etc.
Universal, except i'm 5 foot 7 so might be different for you massive legends.

+1

and then throw in a fun, solid, fat, punchy or heavy at the front to let your compadre know what it was really like haha

eg fun, head and a half versus solid overhead makes a hell of a difference

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Razzonater said..
I like to think of it in animal size all creatures would of course be riding an appropriate board
Ie would a smurf fit in the barrel. Yes ankle height.
Would yoda fit in the barrel. Knee maybe waist.
Could a goat fit in the barrel. Waist/chest
Could I walk a fridge through the barrel.head to head and a half depending on fridge size amount of beer. Angle of wave, water moving slabiness of the wave. Lets say its cold water your 300 metres out and stand up pits. That is head and a half any day of the week. If you are in warm water on a hollow but mellow point it is head, maybe head and a bit. ( pushing)
When it does get to double head, that is pretty solid ( very ) and If you can stand in a barrel with your hands out/up and not touch the sides or roof it's 4-6 foot. 10 to 12 is twice ( review pipeline) that Anyone who tells you other wise is a pipe master or master piper. I've been the guy down south calling 4 foot 6 foot and the guy in indo calling 6 foot 4 foot. Now it's more consequence than size for me. I'd rather surf double head snapper than head and a half box

i like it
there were a few yodas and goats around the south west saturday morning actually...

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jbshack said..

trevor1 said..
I have a 12 inch d1ck.

Thanks for letting me share.

But do you measure it from the back or the front One way is correct, the other makes you a kook..

12 inches Hawaiin

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trevor1 said..
I have a 12 inch d1ck.

Thanks for letting me share.

Its the width you have to watch out for ha ha

I don't really care about the exact size, unless you got footage and you are able to scale it off who really knows the exact height.

Much prefer the mellow/fun/solid/heavy/scary/Outtacontrol/Unsrufable scale thrown in with waist/chest/head/overhead/firggin huge for added effect.

Trying to nail down an exact size is a bit like d**k measuring IMO.

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Legion said..
Here we go again.

bjshack said..
Wow you must be such a great surfer.. Really i must be a kook, and most Aussie surfers i know must also be kooks ...

Obviously, if that's the system you use.

bjshack said..
... actually all the worlds surf forecasting sites must also be kooks

All the American ones will use their system. Yep.

Beej, it's not "my" system, it's the common Australian system. This argument comes up time and time again. But a simple way to reconcile it is to watch a few ASP broadcasts. You'll notice that Pottz and Ronnie Blakey and Ross Williams use the proper system and events in Australia, Fiji, Tahiti, Hawaii call it in those measurements (but not the surfline forecast). You'll notice events in America and Brazil call it in the American system. Not sure about Europe.

Old unemployed commentators like Occy and Snake used the same Australian system.

Go to a boardriders comp or a state comp and see how they call it.

By all means follow the "Joe Turpel" system, bj. I'll keep using the system that's been commonplace in Australian surfing since about the 70s.

This is a funny argument because I'm trying to help you. You obviously don't believe me but if you call a wave in the American system you _will_ be automatically thought of as a kook in front of any long time Australian surfers, in my experience.

Im so glad you helping a kook like me Thanks. But just to clarify as the way i read it you are saying in Australia everyone talks about the measuring the rear of the wave height.. Not up the face as i have always considered most people do.. I am well aware of the two different measurements.. I was often shocked still whilst surfing Disney Land and having people tell me it was only 3 to 4 ' or maybe bomb sets at 4' to 6'..

Either way 20' waves Hawaiian or 40' waves for the kooks would still be an incredible event to watch..

What a wank.

Itis not the common Australian system. It's the system used by cool self promoting wankas.

Wave height is measured from the face. Swell height is measured from the rear.

How on earth can a wave be estimated with a rear measurement when being observed from th rear. Case in point is the mentioned Teahupoo.

I'd rather be a kook than a cock.

http://www.yosurfer.com/content/meteorology_and_oceanography/how_to_measure_wave_size.htm

www.surfresearch.com.au/awaveheight.html

Did anyone read the report about the Eddie? I have been reading the book "Eddie would go" and reading about the competition so when i saw the link i thought it would be cool to share..

In anyones book 20' Hawaiian waves, 40' kook waves or 10 x fridge height would be unreal to witness first hand..

Sometimes this place can really be rather unfriendly and sadly it normally goes back to a few petty people just trying to grind an axe..

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jbshack said..
Did anyone read the report about the Eddie. I have been reading the book "Eddie would go" and reading about the competition so when i saw the link i thought it would be cool to share..

In anyones book 20' Hawaiian waves, 40' kook waves or 10 x fridge height would be unreal to witness first hand..

Sometimes this place can really be rather unfriendly and sadly it normally goes back to a few petty people just trying to grind an axe..

Yep couldn't agree more,rather than look at the big picture they go ANAL dissect everything in the hope of finding some angle to make themselves feel more knowledgable and important-petty funny really but that goes with the territory.

OK. I was a bit strong in response, and it definitely hit one of my buttons.
I just don't like self promoters. They are usually white-anting someone else in order to do it.

And yes, it would be awesome to see an event like that. Would very pointedly show me how much of a kook I am!

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jbshack said..
Did anyone read the report about the Eddie. I have been reading the book "Eddie would go" and reading about the competition so when i saw the link i thought it would be cool to share..

In anyones book 20' Hawaiian waves, 40' kook waves or 10 x fridge height would be unreal to witness first hand..

Sometimes this place can really be rather unfriendly and sadly it normally goes back to a few petty people just trying to grind an axe..

Yep couldn't agree more,rather than look at the big picture they go ANAL dissect everything in the hope of finding some angle to make themselves feel more knowledgable and important-petty funny really but that goes with the territory.

Going anal ?

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Grevas said..
Ankle, Waist, Chest, HEad, Head and a half, Double Head, Over double, etc.
Universal....

Yep best least confusing measurement imo...provided the person is standing in front of you with their report...surf was always pumping when u were a grom hey

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MickPC said..

Grevas said..
Ankle, Waist, Chest, HEad, Head and a half, Double Head, Over double, etc.
Universal....

Yep best least confusing measurement imo...provided the person is standing in front of you with their report...surf was always pumping when u were a grom hey

+1.. best measurement,unless the surf reports coming from frodo… whats confusing me more about the American V Hawaiian measurement
…..isn't Hawaii part of america

http://www.thesurfchannel.com/news/20141105/video-pipeline-rescues-north-shore-lifeguards/

Another funny section of the Book ("Eddie would go") is the descriptions of some of their rescues. Eddie was the one who started the "True Hawaiian rescue experience". It was his belief that if you rescued someone, you had to give them the full "North Shore experience" by waiting and bringing them back in through the middle of a set, so as to scare the bejesus out of the swimmer, to ensure they learnt their lesson the first time

Its not bad read. Especially if you travel their, you can really see glimpses of the start of the North shore, before its rapid rise to fame

"there"not "their"

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bjshack said..

Its not bad read. Especially if you travel their, you can really see glimpses of the start of the North shore, before its rapid rise to fame

You've become quite the expert after your one week holiday. Do you speak pidgin too? I mean, apart from you're pidgin typing. Just about every one of your posts has an anecdote thrown in about the real Hawai'i and you're friends their. I'm almost indicd to go myself so I can become a local too.

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Legion said...

bjshack said..

Its not bad read. Especially if you travel their, you can really see glimpses of the start of the North shore, before its rapid rise to fame

You've become quite the expert after your one week holiday. Do you speak pidgin too? I mean, apart from you're pidgin typing. Just about every one of your posts has an anecdote thrown in about the real Hawai'i and you're friends their. I'm almost indicd to go myself so I can become a local too.

Long long man bilong bikmaus
I think when travelling its best to get amongst it and feel the vibe,manna,chi,zen,or whatever they run on there.
This is a surfing forum everyone filters **** differently.
Eddie was a true waterman, I like travelling and being part of it. I like going to islands see there boats, how they fish, eat, live. Yeah it's a holiday but I like to take something with me in they grey matter or soul ( if I have one ) when I go. When you stare into an abyss long enough it looks right back. I won't stop ever. It keeps me alive 2 foot 4 foot reef breaks, beachies, wedges, point breaks, Crays, fish mangoes, walking through jungles, getting dysentary, dodging malaria, drinking kava, getting ripped off, getting looked after.
All I want is to be a better earthling

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Legion said...

bjshack said..

Its not bad read. Especially if you travel their, you can really see glimpses of the start of the North shore, before its rapid rise to fame

You've become quite the expert after your one week holiday. Do you speak pidgin too? I mean, apart from you're pidgin typing. Just about every one of your posts has an anecdote thrown in about the real Hawai'i and you're friends their. I'm almost indicd to go myself so I can become a local too.

Long long man bilong bikmaus
I think when travelling its best to get amongst it and feel the vibe,manna,chi,zen,or whatever they run on there.
This is a surfing forum everyone filters **** differently.
Eddie was a true waterman, I like travelling and being part of it. I like going to islands see there boats, how they fish, eat, live. Yeah it's a holiday but I like to take something with me in they grey matter or soul ( if I have one ) when I go. When you stare into an abyss long enough it looks right back. I won't stop ever. It keeps me alive 2 foot 4 foot reef breaks, beachies, wedges, point breaks, Crays, fish mangoes, walking through jungles, getting dysentary, dodging malaria, drinking kava, getting ripped off, getting looked after.
All I want is to be a better earthling

Amen

I thought in Australia we used the metric system.

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Legion said...

bjshack said..

Its not bad read. Especially if you travel their, you can really see glimpses of the start of the North shore, before its rapid rise to fame

You've become quite the expert after your one week holiday. Do you speak pidgin too? I mean, apart from you're pidgin typing. Just about every one of your posts has an anecdote thrown in about the real Hawai'i and you're friends their. I'm almost indicd to go myself so I can become a local too.

Long long man bilong bikmaus
I think when travelling its best to get amongst it and feel the vibe,manna,chi,zen,or whatever they run on there.
This is a surfing forum everyone filters **** differently.
Eddie was a true waterman, I like travelling and being part of it. I like going to islands see there boats, how they fish, eat, live. Yeah it's a holiday but I like to take something with me in they grey matter or soul ( if I have one ) when I go. When you stare into an abyss long enough it looks right back. I won't stop ever. It keeps me alive 2 foot 4 foot reef breaks, beachies, wedges, point breaks, Crays, fish mangoes, walking through jungles, getting dysentary, dodging malaria, drinking kava, getting ripped off, getting looked after.
All I want is to be a better earthling

Yep completely agree. Having said that no i don't understand/talk Pigeon although i did actually have a taxi driver, i had to ask him to repeat his answer 3 times before i gave up
Having not really done any surf travel overseas i guess I've not got a lot to compare to, but spending three weeks in a spot like the North shore, i can say i think i managed to get a good feel of the place, and yes Legion i guess I'm still hanging on to it a bit. But once again it is a surf forum, Hawaii is known for its surf and once again i think your just continuing at being a prick, true to form and honestly i don't think you'd get the place at all so i wouldn't bother

I think I found your problem bjshack.

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bene313 said..

I thought in Australia we used the metric system.

Except for surfboards and waves.

There (e.g.over there)
Their (ownership)
They're (they are)

FFS