Crap waves and even crapper editing

What happened to the dream tour??

Its a bit like a test match. Good tonic to put you to sleep. Ah its not that bad really its interesting enough and is about the best show on telle during the week. Havn't seen to many brazilian babes but.

As Parko is a local lad and seen him grow over the years,its great to see him going well,so my question is,do you think he can bring it home this year?

If he did the GC would go nuts

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beastsurf said...
Havn't seen to many brazilian babes but.

Come over here next QUK pro 012 the place is full of them

I actualy concidered the same thing today Mac . I looked at the TAB for the odds of that but it seems that they are no longer taking bets on ASP.

I think that he is definatly a big chance of bringin it home , and Im behind him all the way!!! He has a better chance than anyone else put it that way (at the moment).

Yeah crap waves alright! I think that they should scrap this event in future based on the history of quality surf the event has recieved....
"Somewhere's goin off Jack"!!!!

Surely the "Dream Tour" can get better waves than this???

Also follow TB's results with interest he rips and I would think it would be party WA if he won the tour and rightly so.Never been to WA,hang on I lived there for three years but was 3.5 when we railed our way here.
But having a quick look at round 4 results the Aussies are on fire.

tb getting a 9.3 for that one in the quarters??? hope he goes all the way!
everyone recons the waves are crap but its like scarbs on an epic day... hopehully tomorrow

tb comes second

I have to agree
Owen wright did a massive air 360 and only got a 7.5
Adriano did one floater and scored that 8.2
I think the result was massive for the Brazo crowd but does nothing for the world of contest surfing
Its like the winner was already chosen
Just makes you want to switch off

It seems like that particular heat has caused a stir
Heres the explanation from the judges

Now, Adriano's final wave was a lot bigger than what was shown online as the camera missed the bottom half of the wave – this makes any subsequent analysis of the heat nearly impossible when utilizing only the Heats on Demand version. When De Souza lands you can see the size of the whitewash behind him and the amount of distance that he covered during the floater, how critical the section was and how difficult it would have been to land would not have been entirely visible on the webcast, and is not represented in the Heats on Demand.

The part of the sandbar that De Souza executed the maneuver was waist-deep, hence the critical section. The waves on the final day were two-to-three-maneuver waves. The surfers could take the smaller ones that would run a bit further, but were a lot softer and easier waves to ride, or they could take the set waves which were a lot shorter but also a lot harder to ride. Owen's rides in the Quarterfinal heat were on the smaller waves that offered more room but less punch. During the final day, many single-turn waves received scores that would not normally be that high, but as the waves only allowed for two-to-three turns, we had adjusted the scale. It's important to note that there is nothing in the criteria that says surfers must complete multiple turns. We're in the business of surfers going big and that's what we've been seeing in the last 18 months.

The vision also fails to truly reflect the speed of the waves. The set waves flew down the bank while the smaller ones ran off a lot slower. The camera angle often failed to truly reflect the surfing being done at the time, as well as the depth of the wave, where the surfer took the wave in relation to the bank and how critical the sections are.

Our job as the judging panel is to score the surfers that are pushing the criteria to the limit. Both of Owen's airs were good maneuvers (they are also the bread and butter for nearly every surfer on tour these days), but executed on the easy sections of the waves. Where as Adriano's floater was done on such a critical part of the wave. I would probably add that if Owen's first turns on both scoring waves were bigger or more critical, then both waves would have been scored higher.

I pose the question, would you, as a fan of top-level surfing, prefer the surfers to do a good turn on a small easy wave or a good turn on a wave that is going flat-out with a heaving, unforgiving closeout section?

It was absolutely a close heat, but we have close heats every day as we are dealing with the best surfers in the world.

Full disclosure: the ASP International Media Department is looking into improving the current Heats on Demand (HOD) product that the events currently provide. The current Heats on Demand product consistently mis-tags waves with incorrect scores, fails to show completed rides and to provide an accurate representation of what is actually occurring during the event. We appreciate the feedback from our fans and are looking into remedying the issue as soon as possible.

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Stupidstupid said...

I have to agree
Owen wright did a massive air 360 and only got a 7.5
Adriano did one floater and scored that 8.2
I think the result was massive for the Brazo crowd but does nothing for the world of contest surfing
Its like the winner was already chosen
Just makes you want to switch off

No floater is worth 7.0 little lone an 8.0 imo. Ive judged many heats at club level and while we judge to conditions ect the best score for one move on any wave would be a 6.0 and that would have to be so critical and perfectly executed.
Saying that what we are discussing isnt at club level, its the WCT and the judging should be so much better for the level of surfing.
Going back to Snapper at the start of the year in the final I think kellys scores were correct for how he was surfing, but even tho Taj did struggle a bit I think he was scored lower than Kelly imo.

Btw it was Adrianos home comp, do think that made any difference?

I've had some thoughts on this topic brewing for some time now.

I think a few years ago kelly figured out that if he almost blew a big turn, throwing the tail out, laying back in the white wash etc.. then he was guaranteed a huge score. It also just so happens that he is really good at this.

Think the Occy hair turn/look back reo if you are old enough to remember.

Cut to present day if a surfer on purpose or not makes a manoeuvre look harder than it could have been should he get a higher score ??

I seriously think some surfers are getting underscored for fast, critical and smooth linked turns because they make it look to easy. (read tb)

And don't get me started on the latin american 'claiming' to the judge tower ??

This paradigm is so easy to fix. Hold contests in good waves you ASP morons. You can't hide bad surfing in good waves!!!

Josh Kerr paddled down the beach and did more than 10 air reverses in a heat, all one manoeuvre waves. No one wants to see this in a comp

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Jedibrad said...

I've had some thoughts on this topic brewing for some time now.

I think a few years ago kelly figured out that if he almost blew a big turn, throwing the tail out, laying back in the white wash etc.. then he was guaranteed a huge score. It also just so happens that he is really good at this.

Think the Occy hair turn/look back reo if you are old enough to remember.

Cut to present day if a surfer on purpose or not makes a manoeuvre look harder than it could have been should he get a higher score ??

I seriously think some surfers are getting underscored for fast, critical and smooth linked turns because they make it look to easy. (read tb)

And don't get me started on the latin american 'claiming' to the judge tower ??

This paradigm is so easy to fix. Hold contests in good waves you ASP morons. You can't hide bad surfing in good waves!!!

Josh Kerr paddled down the beach and did more than 10 air reverses in a heat, all one manoeuvre waves. No one wants to see this in a comp

Agreed, wave quality makes a comp at the end of the day.

Just another note
Adriano second wave was crap
No way should that have come close to scoring a six
Anyway we move on
I just love my sport especially surfing and like it do be judged fairly
Not on who is flavour of the month
On a positive note Owen is killing it this year
I surfed with a few members of the wright family when i was last over east
Such a nice family