This will be good

Ban sups and foils......

there was a huge inundation of goat boats a few years ago than they all died off within a few years hopefully this will be the sup and foil

TimKay said..
I really think Foils should be banned from all line ups
As we all know the crowds at most line ups are beyond a joke
Why add an out of control craft with a big blade underneath
Are jet skis or even motor boat allowed to be out in crowded beaches husling for waves
An accident waiting to happen

Maybe just make all surfers were life jackets so there safe

I agree, tho doubtful anyone will use a foil sup board or surf board anywhere around Perth. I mean where is it deep enough to?
Also there is generally only a handful of adequately skilled SUP surf riders that could ride a foil, and generally i would think those people will not as they are generally either surfing or SUP surfing.
I surf and SUP surf, and think this foil business is ridiculous. Seems predominantly Hawaii based so all good.

I'd hate to see a collision with a kite foil.
At the very least it would be severe lacerations and at worst a fatality.
It would be like a shark attack.

Pr0ne4Lyfe said..
Yep I hear ya brother, green thumb that all day long.

I came in here to start a thread just like this but TKay is all over that ****.

Stuff it I went straight to the source and gave it to those kooks.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/Ban-all-SUP-foils--and-SUPs-?page=1#8

I can see the SUP numbers dropping everyday with the amount of stink-eye I'm giving those suckers.

Stay proned brothers!

Yeah
You told them stoned4Lyfe
We should catch up for a sea sweep

surffoils said..
Would you be scared if you knew that shortboard foils are already in the lineup ? I've seen several on the Gold Coast.

Yes, but I'd love to have a go.

No good for my local.

But can you do a rail turn?

enough said I reckon

Yeah I know. That's my point. There are no rails. There's no contact with the water. It's not surfing as such. But each to their own.

me? I want to hit a lip and and do a scything cutty. Let's see a foil board do a turn like Slater or Egan or Knox or Occy.

They are something completely different. Fun for some I am sure.

thedrip said..
But can you do a rail turn?

enough said I reckon

Plus they look farkin horrible

^ UGLY

so probably not the thread to jump in and hi but I'm a kiter who has just bought a surf foil for kiting in waves. Im based North of the River and this summer will be my 3rd on the hydrofoil. I usually do the downwinder with the kiters from Floreat to Trigg

Do you guys know the difference between a surf/sup foil and kite foil ? Kite foils are usually carbon fibre and razor sharp. They have long masts - 1m+, and are built for speed - the course racers are now regularly reaching 38-40 kts downwind. They have relatively small wings but very elongated - high aspect - and yes we cut ourselves to pieces regularly. Surf foils in comparison are huge, thick and usually made of plastic (G10) or other composites and totally blunt. The masts are short - like 60 - 70cm and are also slow as hell - like you can foil at walking pace, but this is exactly what makes them suitable for paddling or supping. If you get hit by a surf foil it will hurt & bruise, but is unlikely to cut you - its too slow and the leading edge is like 1cm thick and totally blunt. The asian surfer who cut his face open was learning to foil on a surf foil using a foil designed for kiting (small & sharp), and thats why he got those catastrophic injuries in the photos. Anyway - if you are worried about getting injured - its the kite foilers you need to watch out for. From experience i doubt you'll see to many surf foilers in Perth lineups because our banks are pretty shallow and we often have breaking waves, noob surf foilers really want small unbroken swells with maybe a little mushy whitewater at best. I doubt you will be in the water at the same time - suppers maybe. But I just thought Id say if anyone is curious to see / try my surf foil up close, let me know. Its mounted to a 4'11 x 18 x 1 5/8 surfboard so if you want to try to paddle it, you are welcome.

New video of Kai foil surfing from WSL today if you missed it.... www.facebook.com/WSL/videos/10155079870307058/

jamesperth said..
so probably not the thread to jump in and hi but I'm a kiter who has just bought a surf foil for kiting in waves. Im based North of the River and this summer will be my 3rd on the hydrofoil. I usually do the downwinder with the kiters from Floreat to Trigg

Do you guys know the difference between a surf/sup foil and kite foil ? Kite foils are usually carbon fibre and razor sharp. They have long masts - 1m+, and are built for speed - the course racers are now regularly reaching 38-40 kts downwind. They have relatively small wings but very elongated - high aspect - and yes we cut ourselves to pieces regularly. Surf foils in comparison are huge, thick and usually made of plastic (G10) or other composites and totally blunt. The masts are short - like 60 - 70cm and are also slow as hell - like you can foil at walking pace, but this is exactly what makes them suitable for paddling or supping. If you get hit by a surf foil it will hurt & bruise, but is unlikely to cut you - its too slow and the leading edge is like 1cm thick and totally blunt. The asian surfer who cut his face open was learning to foil on a surf foil using a foil designed for kiting (small & sharp), and thats why he got those catastrophic injuries in the photos. Anyway - if you are worried about getting injured - its the kite foilers you need to watch out for. From experience i doubt you'll see to many surf foilers in Perth lineups because our banks are pretty shallow and we often have breaking waves, noob surf foilers really want small unbroken swells with maybe a little mushy whitewater at best. I doubt you will be in the water at the same time - suppers maybe. But I just thought Id say if anyone is curious to see / try my surf foil up close, let me know. Its mounted to a 4'11 x 18 x 1 5/8 surfboard so if you want to try to paddle it, you are welcome.

New video of Kai foil surfing from WSL today if you missed it.... www.facebook.com/WSL/videos/10155079870307058/

The foil designs differ because the kite foils are using the energy from the kite whereas the surf Foils get it from the wave so they hAve to use all the technical foils to get lift. As the surf foilers get better/ faster the foils will need less lift so the foils will be lower aspect and thinner.
It's early days and it could all disappear overnight if councils pass a No Foil Law.

thedrip said..
Yeah I know. That's my point. There are no rails. There's no contact with the water. It's not surfing as such. But each to their own.

me? I want to hit a lip and and do a scything cutty. Let's see a foil board do a turn like Slater or Egan or Knox or Occy.

They are something completely different. Fun for some I am sure.

How dare anyone do anything different. Everybody should be the same.

LateStarter said..

jamesperth said..
If you get hit by a surf foil it will hurt & bruise, but is unlikely to cut you - its too slow and the leading edge is like 1cm thick and totally blunt.

You don't need a sharp edge to draw blood mate.
These things have no place in any lineup, whether ridden by Kooks, Kai or Laird himself.

So following your logic LS, that rules out most surf craft except maybe the surf mat