im having thoughts about joining the bigs boys 10ft club....The only difference is im keen for it to be epoxy,

This board will only be for tiny waves and running people over. It will be a war machine.

I understand about the weight giving you glide and all that jazz. My thinking for epoxy is a super light board for that size,which means less of a struggle to get the beast up to speed when paddling for a wave. It should pick up waves much easier being so light and buoyant.

Should glide even better as it is so buoyant and will just float through the ride.

Will be semi indestructable for when i attack the points. The more repairs it ends up with the better for this board

thoughts people

McTavish make a great board

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Macaha said..
McTavish make a great board

for hipsters

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chrispy said..

Macaha said..
McTavish make a great board

for hipsters

yeah Lacey's a good fit

NSP do a dirty big 11 footer. Beast of a thing . You'll kill em all

I think I'll avoid those same points when you're visiting young man.

Surfing the pass one time and there was a hefty guy of Polynesian extraction surfing a large nsp. None of the normally greedy hipsters were risking their puny resin tinted rails with a drop in on that guy.

One of the problems with an epoxy board is whether it has an eps core that's going to suck water in if dinged...pita.
If you were going custom are the blanks that are impervious to water hard to come by and expensive?

Epoxy does make it nice & light. You feel the diff when your swinging a board that long around.

This is mine, it comes with a huge fin & the board turns way better than it looks like it should.
http://www.wildwatersports.com.au/shop/longboard-modern-old-skool/

Here's another one a little less colourful haha...these boards are really wide too, makes them really stable to move around on deck
phaseonesurf.com/modern-skool-epoxy-longboard-p-25860.html?osCsid=4qinq71opjoeiqrb1tsmggbuh0

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MickPC said...
Epoxy does make it nice & light. You feel the diff when your swinging a board that long around.

This is mine, it comes with a huge fin & the board turns way better than it looks like it should.
http://www.wildwatersports.com.au/shop/longboard-modern-old-skool/

Here's another one a little less colourful haha...these boards are really wide too, makes them really stable to move around on deck
phaseonesurf.com/modern-skool-epoxy-longboard-p-25860.html?osCsid=4qinq71opjoeiqrb1tsmggbuh0

Got nothing on epoxy longboards, but I do have an epoxy Webber made using that SLX that mick's board is made of. My board has proven really tough. The reviews I read before purchasing suggested SLX was weak but my experience is that my little Webber is nigh on indestructible. I hate the board, but it's bullet proof. Lol. Sounds perfect for running people down.

I think I seen the NSP's too and they look like you could take a bat to them.

Funny. I've gone the other way. I have a surftech epoxy 9'4" for the beachbreaks and my log is heavy volan fibreglass. The heavier board paddles quicker and suffers less in bumpier conditions. Epoxy's are great for being indestructable, but are corky and sit higher in the water. Don't think I've been much help.

Ive been chugging along on a NSP 10 footer for some time now and find the epoxy more beneficial then a hindrance. Its actually a laugh to hand it over to those running 9 footers and less and watch them power stroke into waves, only to realise they have overtaken the wave and its about to come down on them instead, kind of leaves them scratching their head wondering what they did wrong.

I wil say the only issue I have found with the NSP is that it tapers off to fast towards the rear and I would prefer more volume in front rather then a nose that also tapers off. It means that when it comes to supporting my dainty weight up front, i can only get about 30cm from the nose before it nose dives.

Indestructible? Well Its has coped a fair flogging on a reef and come up with just a scratch or two

TB knows all about getting mowed down by chrispy

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Macaha said..
TB knows all about getting mowed down by chrispy

Ooo nasty ha ha. Crispy having had both in a big board there's only one way to go PU . Key word drive !

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Sandsy1 said...
Funny. I've gone the other way. I have a surftech epoxy 9'4" for the beachbreaks and my log is heavy volan fibreglass. The heavier board paddles quicker and suffers less in bumpier conditions. Epoxy's are great for being indestructable, but are corky and sit higher in the water. Don't think I've been much help.

Same 2 layer of 8oz volan is bullet proof.. And heavy.. Outta the way biatches..

But the epoxy seem to paddle good and catch waves easy but I like the heavy feeling on a log.

I've been no help either.

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towball said..

Macaha said..
TB knows all about getting mowed down by chrispy

Ooo nasty ha ha. Crispy having had both in a big board there's only one way to go PU . Key word drive !

come on give us a run down TB,what happened on that day,I recall you were surfing a brand new board and someone dropped in on you,correct

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towball said...

Macaha said..
TB knows all about getting mowed down by chrispy

Ooo nasty ha ha. Crispy having had both in a big board there's only one way to go PU . Key word drive !

That's pretty much what I have found with the short boards I have surfed in epoxy. I haven't ever surfed an epoxy board (all short boards) I have liked. Sort of like my relationship with single concaves, but in both instances I know it's me and not necessarily the design. Some people might like it. Can you test ride one you like the look of, Chrispy?

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thedrip said..

towball said...

Macaha said..
TB knows all about getting mowed down by chrispy

Ooo nasty ha ha. Crispy having had both in a big board there's only one way to go PU . Key word drive !

That's pretty much what I have found with the short boards I have surfed in epoxy. I haven't ever surfed an epoxy board (all short boards) I have liked. Sort of like my relationship with single concaves, but in both instances I know it's me and not necessarily the design. Some people might like it. Can you test ride one you like the look of, Chrispy?

I don't know I think the big single fin chrispy was surfing that day wouldnt turn ran right over that poor TB bloke

Epoxy doesn't have the flex properties of PU. So if your surfing bigger waves or bumpy conditions, epoxy isn't going to ride as well as PU. We're talking 10'0 logs & you shouldn't take a 10'0 log out into big or bumpy waves.

Regarding PU having more drive than epoxy. Some people say they prefer the flex patterns of PU when they're coming out of a hard turn. But I think that's more of a SB issue. Your going to be doing more swinging pivot turns on a log, not full tilt burying the rail turns coz logs tend to be very flat rockered. Your not going to experience winding up a big turn & feeling the flex pattern drive you out of it. If down the line drive is an issue for a 10'0 log there would have to be something wrong with the board shape or fin.

Good point on the epoxy and flex Mick but I happily ride my log in waves over head high no worries.

A Tak mod t that weighs a third of my body weight is 10ft long and gkassed heavy as with Volan. It is amazing on bigger waves..

The weight and length get you in way early and the big single let's you pick your line and drive the thing off a rail and then you farking fly...

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Macaha said..

towball said..

Macaha said..
TB knows all about getting mowed down by chrispy

Ooo nasty ha ha. Crispy having had both in a big board there's only one way to go PU . Key word drive !

come on give us a run down TB,what happened on that day,I recall you were surfing a brand new board and someone dropped in on you,correct

If it was motor racing it would be called a racing incident I can't remember what happened yesterday let alone then . I do remember lacey sailing round there on his gin palace O how times change

Blatant drop in TB thats what I wittnessed.

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SP said..
Good point on the epoxy and flex Mick but I happily ride my log in waves over head high no worries.

A Tak mod t that weighs a third of my body weight is 10ft long and gkassed heavy as with Volan. It is amazing on bigger waves..

The weight and length get you in way early and the big single let's you pick your line and drive the thing off a rail and then you farking fly...

Nice board...a board that heavy is gonna plow through some bumps for sure & I have taken mine out in just overhead clean fat conditions. But any bigger & I felt like LB'ing I'd grab my CW Whalebone...that is when I get round to repairing it & have the option

go the volan mate with a nice big fin and you'll just chug along.

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MickPC said...

SP said..
Good point on the epoxy and flex Mick but I happily ride my log in waves over head high no worries.

A Tak mod t that weighs a third of my body weight is 10ft long and gkassed heavy as with Volan. It is amazing on bigger waves..

The weight and length get you in way early and the big single let's you pick your line and drive the thing off a rail and then you farking fly...

Nice board...a board that heavy is gonna plow through some bumps for sure & I have taken mine out in just overhead clean fat conditions. But any bigger & I felt like LB'ing I'd grab my CW Whalebone...that is when I get round to repairing it & have the option

Ploughs through everything, crowds and people included

im happy with my board for most stuff...
.i just want one for when its super tiny....i think the epoxy will be the go on this. I wont know unless i try it i guess

Hey Chrispy,

My 10c worth here...

I've surfed both and just don't like the general feel of the epoxy so i'd strongly recommend trying one first, yes its lighter so its easier to carry but thats the only advantage I can see. The big negative for me is that epoxy boards sit on the water more vs planing through the water, the biggest issue with this is that as soon as you get into any whitewater they start to chatter around which also makes em balls for cross stepping/trimming/noseriding. besides that the general feel when turning etc is just different and for me, i just massively prefer the glass.

For the record i'm not anti epoxy, my 7' Mct Bobsled for me surfs better in epoxy than glass, its super light, lighting fast and turns beautiful on a nice open wall, just dont get behind a section as again, the WW is like riding a bucking bull.

As for paddling in, read the review of my CA Sweet Love, thing paddles into a ripple and i'm pretty sure Vanders 10'2' HL is the same... I'd be having a chat to SDR about a small wave log... just don't mention that you were considering epoxy as you might upset him.

Cheers,

Epoxy is just a resin, it can be applied to PU blanks also for lower weights and higher strengths with the same feel.

There are about 10 different kinds of epoxy contruction mentioned above all as different to each other as the difference between hand laminated PU and hand laminated EPS with Epoxy resin.

Personally I love the feel of my heavy PU SDR Log and other shortboards but I also have quite a few Epoxy Longboards and shortboards. Some of them are super light, some are about the same weight as PU. These ones surf pretty similarly to PU to be honest.

personally I had a dhd coffee bean hayden epoxy which I really liked.


had a hayden germ which I hated. didn't like the feel of it and didn't like the way it went.


both would have been similar volumes.



ps I did like the nano too, but at 39 lts was way too much board at 6 ft

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laceys lane said..
personally I had a dhd coffee bean hayden epoxy which I really liked.

Cool how long did that one last? day? week? month?

Geez nasty bitch

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Macaha said..

laceys lane said..
personally I had a dhd coffee bean hayden epoxy which I really liked.

Cool how long did that one last? day? week? month?

longer. a lot longer.

you would have ordered 5 to 6 boards in that time easy like.


hang on . I had for a year- 15 x your average board keep- something you can understand