Whats the trick to get my toes on the nose. I can get within a foot of the nose but get scared to place the toes up there as it starts to go under.

I don't know what would help you, but I sure as sh!t know what would help me, being 25 kg less, that's what would help me

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obct said..

I don't know what would help you, but I sure as sh!t know what would help me, being 25 kg less, that's what would help me

I agree with obct,but you've got to stalk it walk strong and steady ,I was watching a guy yesterday and he was stalking it.

Watch the Pup all class

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asea said..
Watch the Pup all class

The Pup who have not seen him around

Probably trying out the massage before he invests in a massage parlour cheap rate for Breezers

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Macaha said..

asea said..
Watch the Pup all class

The Pup who have not seen him around

Is the Pup a noserider,Cooool

I find you need to keep your weight back towards the back of the board as you head up the nose. If you watch all the good nose riders (obviously in line with OB's suggestion - yes they are all tiny creatures) thats what a lot of them tend to do. It has certainly helped me a lot. You also need to be in the right part of the wave when you head north. This pic that Snakeman posted the other day sums up what I am trying to say.

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Adapt said...
Whats the trick to get my toes on the nose. I can get within a foot of the nose but get scared to place the toes up there as it starts to go under.

A dedicated nose rider would help. My board is a bit of hybrid with its wide nose, decent rocker but single fin. It's a lot easier to get near the nose than my mates HP, ex-comp longboard. Perhaps look at your equipment too.

Take what I say with a grain of salt as I have hung five over the end of my 6'10" but never on the 9'4" so I may have absolutely no idea. The 6'10" has a heaps flatter rocker though, so maybe I am making sense. I have also ridden the 6'10" in more traditional long boarding, nose riding conditions. The 9'4" tends to come out in fatter head to double head conditions over here rather than little peelers.

Any voices on nose riding equipment?

Buy a nose rider. In saying that it is a bloody hard thing to.do. I can't even ride my longboard properly after not being on it for so long.

The wave really is just as important as the board. Only a certain position and types of wave will let the board lock in.

Or do what I do. Catch any wave,run straight to a foot from the nose and shuffle the couple of inches from there.

Then, even when you know the board is going to sink. Just stay there,don't do the logical thing and cross step back and repeat to the nose.

Nope stay on that nose till ya sink it.

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Ted the Kiwi said...
I find you need to keep your weight back towards the back of the board as you head up the nose. If you watch all the good nose riders (obviously in line with OB's suggestion - yes they are all tiny creatures) thats what a lot of them tend to do. It has certainly helped me a lot. You also need to be in the right part of the wave when you head north. This pic that Snakeman posted the other day sums up what I am trying to say.

I have seen some huge dudes hanging them this week and I mean huge.. 130kg plus..

To me it is technique, timing, positioning, weight distribution, practice and a bit of talent will always help. You see plenty of light blokes bury it or not even get there.

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Adapt said..
Whats the trick to get my toes on the nose. I can get within a foot of the nose but get scared to place the toes up there as it starts to go under.

Gotta master the cross step first, shuffling won't work unless you get lucky.

And you gotta read the wave, time your bottom turn, cut back or stall so that the breaking wave is going to peel onto the back of your board to hold it down.

That all said, I'm hopeless. 3 years with the occasional having a go at cross stepping on the small days & I still can't do it very well yet alone get board placement on the wave sussed out as well.

I know a young bloke (mid 20's) who picked it up straight away on the same model board as my nose rider I recently sold. Only its a 9'6 & my board was 10'...I kinda gave up last summer & focussed on switch footing instead...cross stepping does my head in...

I'll try again when I get my next nose rider which will be 11' or 12' foot.

There's been a bunch of threads on here about this but the below article is a really good read, covers boards/waves/technique by Tom Wegener, one of the masters.

noseriding.com/pages/noseriding-home.htm

As the boys have mentioned cross stepping is a must but mostly its about the wave and your positioning. Unless your a lightweight you cant NR small crumblers, you need the energy of the wave to hold the board in the wave while you try to fly, so a fast wave with a nice long critical wall is the best wave type... The biggest barrier I find is that when the wave is critical your generally grabbing a rail or just hanging on and trying to make but thats actually when you need to be on your way to the nose or already there. Most try and NR out of a section and you'll just fall off... which is what i mostly do

And then its practice, practice, practice and try and surf with someone who's already mastered it, just being in the water and watching close up and in real time is a massive help...

Its totally worth the work though because when you do nail it, there's few more magical experiences you can have.

Best of luck dude,

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Adapt said..
Whats the trick to get my toes on the nose. I can get within a foot of the nose but get scared to place the toes up there as it starts to go under.

You stated your main issue to be honest At least that's what I have found to be an issue for myself and others.

Just gotta go for it heaps. If you fall off, try again and again. Only way I taught myself to do it There's no kidding that I only weigh a bit over 60kg on a 9'6 Log. That helps a bunch. But it obvious that with the right technique, anyone can nose ride any board.

As mentioned above, keeping the weight off the nose helps a fair bit. To help with this a board with a really heavy tail is awesome.

Also timing of sections is probably the most key thing really, most guys go for the nose out on the face a lot of the time. Better off to go for a waltz up there when you've got a fairly long wall in front, helps prop the nose up out of the water.

Depends on the waves your surfing too. For example, I have been surfing with Andyroomac recently on the hobart points a few times. They are good waves but I find them to be just a tad too slow at times to get any real tip time. On the other hand, we surf another place (perhaps his favourite and now mine too) and it's quite a bit faster and that makes it much easier to stay on the nose. Also helps being on forehand vs backhand I find.

Cheers,
TK.

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AndyrooMac said..

There's been a bunch of threads on here about this but the below article is a really good read, covers boards/waves/technique by Tom Wegener, one of the masters.

noseriding.com/pages/noseriding-home.htm

As the boys have mentioned cross stepping is a must but mostly its about the wave and your positioning. Unless your a lightweight you cant NR small crumblers, you need the energy of the wave to hold the board in the wave while you try to fly, so a fast wave with a nice long critical wall is the best wave type... The biggest barrier I find is that when the wave is critical your generally grabbing a rail or just hanging on and trying to make but thats actually when you need to be on your way to the nose or already there. Most try and NR out of a section and you'll just fall off... which is what i mostly do

And then its practice, practice, practice and try and surf with someone who's already mastered it, just being in the water and watching close up and in real time is a massive help...

Its totally worth the work though because when you do nail it, there's few more magical experiences you can have.

Best of luck dude,

Just read this, practically what I just said. You've been watching intently in the water aye mate Now to get Ted down here so we can show him how the tassie boys do things

You will scare Ted away with all that talk about watching howTassie boys do it.... Gee we all still.struggle about alll your family LOVE going on down there

Helps that we're all inbred... oops i mean family... oops i mean friends... ummmmm

We're all very close down here Perhaps too close by normal standards

Thanks for the advice guys. Guess it's time to nose dive a fair few times.

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Adapt said..
Thanks for the advice guys. Guess it's time to nose dive a fair few times.

Good plan

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Teacake said..

Adapt said..
Thanks for the advice guys. Guess it's time to nose dive a fair few times.

Good plan

Yep, practice! the right trim and positioning. But as mentioned already, equipment that's suitable, and cross stepping. Heaps harder without either of those.

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Teacake said..

Adapt said..
Thanks for the advice guys. Guess it's time to nose dive a fair few times.

Good plan

Yep, practice! the right trim and positioning. But as mentioned already, equipment that's suitable, and cross stepping. Heaps harder without either of those.

Agreed! And good noseriding waves

First let me say that I can't nose ride at all. Well I can get within about a foot without too much trouble. After that it is wipe out time. Always been the same for me.
There are a couple of things that I have noticed over the years, some are listed above:-

* The right wave is a big help. Noosa points for example. The type of wave and the way it breaks can have a bearing on your learning curve.
*A dedicated Nose Rider will get you there faster as we all know they are designed to sit in the right spot and stay there when used correctly.
*Size and weight of the rider play a part, but larger guys who are skill full can also get there.
* The biggest factor is practice. If you look at the guys who are regularly getting 5 or 10 they are people who spend a lot of time doing it.

In my opinion, get a dedicated nose rider or a good compromise and practice, practice, practice.

I base my statements on over 45 years of surfing and watching surfers. The likes of Josh Constable, Chris d'Aboitiz, Joel Tudor, etc spend and have spent considerably more time in the water than your average punter. Like any sport the more time you put in the more results you get.

The pity is that average, normal people don't get that time.

ET.