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What to do if you can't surf any more?

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obct
obct

NSW

3487 posts

20 Feb 2015 10:56pm
One of my favourite people to surf with, and for that matter, just to know, has come to the conclusion that he just can't surf prone any more. He's gone through a heap of medical treatment, physio and every quack remedy there is, and he just can't overcome his neck and shoulder problems.

He's just such a top bloke to have a wave with, MR knows him too, I always look,for,him in the lineup, not having him there will be all wrong.

Anyway, he says he'll give the 666ers a go, I know this is what SMH did, and it seems to work okay.

i don't know if I could do it, LBs are the only thing that have every attracted me to the water.

chrispy
chrispy

WA

9675 posts

20 Feb 2015 8:01pm
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obct said..
One of my favourite people to surf with, and for that matter, just to know, has come to the conclusion that he just can't surf prone any more. He's gone through a heap of medical treatment, physio and every quack remedy there is, and he just can't overcome his neck and shoulder problems.

He's just such a top bloke to have a wave with, MR know him too, I always look,for,him in the lineup, not having him there will be all wrong.

Anyway, he says he'll give the 666ers a go, I know this is what SMH did, and it seems to work okay.

i don't know if I could do it, LBs are the only thing that have every attracted me to the water.




I would rather ride a body board this injury thing does not always wash with me when they turn to the darkside. it did help me get back onto the water so I could prone again...me now.i think I would get into water photography
Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

20 Feb 2015 10:01pm
That sucks mate but we will all get to that stage a some point,go the 666 for sure he will still be out there sharing the fun times.
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

20 Feb 2015 10:06pm
oh chrispy get real.


666 has enabled a lot of people to keep going for sure.

teatrea and husq are 2 for starters.

husq often says he would love to prone surf but cant.


to not surf at all well i cant imagine
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

20 Feb 2015 11:15pm
Maybe if Teatree spent more time on a prone he would learn what dropping in meant !

Hey OB sorry to hear about your buddy - hope he can get back in the water somehow to get back out there and enjoy himself. Personally I have gone through periods of not enjoying my surfing for various reasons - normally the cold, crowds and poor wave quality. But when you do get back out there with your mates its just the best fun. I used to do some 666g and enjoyed it for what it was. I think if I could not prone again I would be pretty stoked to be able to jump on a 666 and get out there. Might mean I have to change the locations I would normally surf - but at least I would be out there.
chrispy
chrispy

WA

9675 posts

20 Feb 2015 8:19pm
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laceys lane said..
oh chrispy get real.


666 has enabled a lot of people to keep going for sure.

teatrea and husq are 2 for starters.

husq often says he would love to prone surf but cant.


to not surf at all well i cant imagine


hey it helped me get back on the water...my point was not articulated correctly more that I hear peeps telling me that they ride a 666 because of injury,then I watch them in the surf and think if that really was the case you would be injured more after watching some of the crap I see. even getting back on a board is not good for your back,it killed me and took ages and heaps of pain to get back on the board and that was in flat water,,,would have been killer in the surf..i can go on
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

20 Feb 2015 11:20pm
may i suggest another point of view.


i nod my head to your injuries however back and neck pain comes in many different forms.

lying on a board with your neck stretched out and arms rotating above the head, well those guys on 666's aren't showing pain surfing but i suggest put them on the prone board for 2 to 3 weeks and slowly but surely they would be in pain again.

take bill ward. he so badly wanted to long board only- would last a week. even standup got to him in the end.

last i heard he was swimming. how could he swim- i don't know. but i do know his pain was real


just another angle to look at it and gee i understand how it could get to you paddling prone


and every paddling case is different and needs to be judging on those merits



doc lacey
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

20 Feb 2015 9:38pm
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obct said..
One of my favourite people to surf with, and for that matter, just to know, has come to the conclusion that he just can't surf prone any more. He's gone through a heap of medical treatment, physio and every quack remedy there is, and he just can't overcome his neck and shoulder problems.

He's just such a top bloke to have a wave with, MR knows him too, I always look,for,him in the lineup, not having him there will be all wrong.

Anyway, he says he'll give the 666ers a go, I know this is what SMH did, and it seems to work okay.

i don't know if I could do it, LBs are the only thing that have every attracted me to the water.



Obs at the very least he will have etiquette & understanding , respect for other surfers ... and you get to have your brother with you which is everything
chrispy
chrispy

WA

9675 posts

20 Feb 2015 10:43pm
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laceys lane said..
may i suggest another point of view.


i nod my head to your injuries however back and neck pain comes in many different forms.

lying on a board with your neck stretched out and arms rotating above the head, well those guys on 666's aren't showing pain surfing but i suggest put them on the prone board for 2 to 3 weeks and slowly but surely they would be in pain again.

take bill ward. he so badly wanted to long board only- would last a week. even standup got to him in the end.

last i heard he was swimming. how could he swim- i don't know. but i do know his pain was real


just another angle to look at it and gee i understand how it could get to you paddling prone


and every paddling case is different and needs to be judging on those merits



doc lacey


blah blah blah






















if ya can get in the water ride what you want
thedrip
thedrip

WA

2355 posts

21 Feb 2015 1:46am
When I initially hurt my ankle - this is an injury I still carry four years later and will one day end my surfing - I looked at kneeboards and boogie boards. If a SUP is all I am left with then I am there. I grew up near, on and in the water. It's what I do. And I am sure many many others feel the same.
smh
smh

smh

NSW

7269 posts

21 Feb 2015 5:18am
I know what he's going through. I had 2 1/2 years out of the water. I still have a bellyboard which is good to get out on every now and then but it's mostly the 666 and plenty of flat water paddling as well. There's a guy down here that had neck and shoulder problems and he got a 666 and stuck with it but lately he's been getting out on a longboard again. There's always hope.
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

21 Feb 2015 6:38am
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chrispy said..

laceys lane said..
may i suggest another point of view.


i nod my head to your injuries however back and neck pain comes in many different forms.

lying on a board with your neck stretched out and arms rotating above the head, well those guys on 666's aren't showing pain surfing but i suggest put them on the prone board for 2 to 3 weeks and slowly but surely they would be in pain again.

take bill ward. he so badly wanted to long board only- would last a week. even standup got to him in the end.

last i heard he was swimming. how could he swim- i don't know. but i do know his pain was real


just another angle to look at it and gee i understand how it could get to you paddling prone


and every paddling case is different and needs to be judging on those merits



doc lacey



blah blah blah






















if ya can get in the water ride what you want


oh, no answer , cant back up your theories sir
Cuttlefish
Cuttlefish

QLD

1332 posts

21 Feb 2015 8:58am
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smh said..
I know what he's going through. I had 2 1/2 years out of the water. I still have a bellyboard which is good to get out on every now and then but it's mostly the 666 and plenty of flat water paddling as well. There's a guy down here that had neck and shoulder problems and he got a 666 and stuck with it but lately he's been getting out on a longboard again. There's always hope.



Got a pic of the bellyboard?
Bellyboards are interesting animals...they present a real problem to shapers. The hydronamics of a fibreglass bellyboard have a lot of them flumoxed.
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

21 Feb 2015 9:00am
I regret an comments I made earlier
Locky24
Locky24

QLD

515 posts

21 Feb 2015 9:59am
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thedrip said.. looked at kneeboards and boogie boards.


+1
Ricardo1709
Ricardo1709

NSW

1302 posts

21 Feb 2015 11:14am
Ive been unable to surf for the last 2 months due to a badly strained groin muscle,I can swim,ride my pushy, jog and work but when jumping to my feet it causes intense pain and Im back to square one,it sucks big time and can understand what its like to be unable to surf through injury.i know its slowly getting better and Ill be surfing again sooner rather than later,in the meantime I've been bodyboarding and bodysurfing,i don't own a sup and have no intention of getting one,can't justify the cost against how much use id get out of it although if injury was permanent Id probably bring myself to get one AND I wouldn't be an ignorant wave hogging tosser like the vast majority.Ive also got a mate who lost use of one arm 30 odd years ago in a motorcycle accident (drunk driver took him out) he was a fantastic surfer and he still misses surfing so badly,Id love to get someone to whip him into a few on a jet ski as he is a sick snow skier and I reckon he would be into it after a few waves,i hope your mate finds an alternative that gives him some stoke because as they say "only a surfer knows the feeling" Good Luck
surfanimal
surfanimal

NSW

1662 posts

21 Feb 2015 1:39pm

Photography ?

Watching a subject surf and having the knowledge to know when and where they'll pull off the more critical moves kept me sane during a couple lengthy spells.

Yep, not getting wet persay but being 'involved' and sharing some stoke by emailing peep's some photo's was really rewarding.

...seems to work for others I know too.
smh
smh

smh

NSW

7269 posts

21 Feb 2015 1:43pm
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Cuttlefish said..

smh said..
I know what he's going through. I had 2 1/2 years out of the water. I still have a bellyboard which is good to get out on every now and then but it's mostly the 666 and plenty of flat water paddling as well. There's a guy down here that had neck and shoulder problems and he got a 666 and stuck with it but lately he's been getting out on a longboard again. There's always hope.




Got a pic of the bellyboard?
Bellyboards are interesting animals...they present a real problem to shapers. The hydronamics of a fibreglass bellyboard have a lot of them flumoxed.




Mark Rabbidge made it for me about 6 years ago. Big concave in it . It flies.





She's not pretty. Don't know how that Tak got in there but that is pretty



wavelength
wavelength

1195 posts

21 Feb 2015 12:26pm
Stand up paddle surfing is surfing with a paddle. If that's what Obct's mate needs to do, and he does it with an open mind, he will love it. It's really not very far removed from what all us longboarders love.

I hope he enjoys the ride.

Like this fellah says in the clip: "It was small, we had a blast."


Sandsy1
Sandsy1

NSW

814 posts

22 Feb 2015 12:46am
Well boys. Hip replacement a year ago, back on my mal!!! But a mal style 666 saved me from going mental, before the operation and during recovery.
ocbt, one of my best mates was on a 666 when I was still ok and we surfed together a lot. We would just suss out the quiet spots and get amongst it.
We are both hippy's now and both back on our longboards, but that 666 did save me. Try to stop surfing for a couple of years and see what happens. It's not a sport, it's a life style.I hope your mate overcomes his problems and can get into it.
warwickl
warwickl

NSW

2357 posts

22 Feb 2015 8:19am
I had a problem and bought an air vest, worked for me
surfbroker
surfbroker

NSW

1489 posts

22 Feb 2015 8:53am
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Sandsy1 said..
Well boys. Hip replacement a year ago, back on my mal!!! But a mal style 666 saved me from going mental, before the operation and during recovery.
ocbt, one of my best mates was on a 666 when I was still ok and we surfed together a lot. We would just suss out the quiet spots and get amongst it.
We are both hippy's now and both back on our longboards, but that 666 did save me. Try to stop surfing for a couple of years and see what happens. It's not a sport, it's a life style.I hope your mate overcomes his problems and can get into it.


Agree Sandsy..I had a nasty fall some years ago flat on my back onto concrete off a ladder 2 mtrs up..and fractured my hip..pain was constant..Physio said to swim but it was too painful even to kick my legs, so I just waded in water for an hour at a time and did exercises that I could bare.

Took 5 months, but I thought I was out for life, do what you can and modify the exercises to suit your injury/pain threshold and try to move forward.
Ctngoodvibes
Ctngoodvibes

WA

1404 posts

22 Feb 2015 11:10am
I reckon it's worse when mates just stop surfing for no other reason then they don't make time for it (ie too busy with house / kids / wife / work etc). Makes me feel old and I'm not that old. And guys who were frothers too!
E T
E T

E T

QLD

2286 posts

23 Feb 2015 8:02am
Hey OB, not all neck injuries are curable.

I damaged two vertebrae in my neck about fifteen years ago in a very heavy wipeout. I have tried every form of non-surgical treatment there is. I refuse to have surgery as, in my opinion, that is the end for any form of activity.

I continued long boarding for many years but found that the headaches and ongoing pain was taking away any pleasure that i gained. It wasntmuch fun chucking upon the water due to the extreme pain that the headaches gave me. This is caused by pressure on the neck and associated muscles from lying prone with your head jacked up. This position is quite unatural, it doesn't cause too many problems unless you have an injury or a predisposition to pain.

An old friend of mine in Noosa kicked off the first 666 school in Oz about nine or ten years ago. After watching for some time I had a long chat with him and gave it a shot. Flatwater only was my catch cry. But the lure of the surf is never far away.

Long story short, I have been SUPping for all that time and love it. "Why", because it gets me on the water, allows me to exercise and I can surf without terrible pain.

The advantages are numerous for me and I have regained the pleasure I thought may have been lost to me.
I am not trying to convert you or anyone, but I have great pleasure when I thought I may have to give up entirely.

Yes I agree with some of the other comments about wave hogs, lack of talent, danger etc etc etc, but these things come down to the individual not what he rides.

Just my thoughts, don't expect everyone to agree.

By the way I still have two LB's racked up and ready to go should things work out that way.

Good luck to your mate.

ET.
Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

23 Feb 2015 8:13am
Who ever said surfing is a lifestyle is 100% correct,lets face it we all need to work and during this non surf time,who's minds wonder about what the surf is doing right now or what will be on offer on the days off.

The swell was massive the past couple of weekends so I trotted off to mctavish to kill some time then I watched the brave take on this swell.

I used to poke fun at 666 riders just for the hell of it but if thats going to keep you in the water,sane and happy you would to be nuts not to get into it if your injured.

I think keeping in the lifestyle will help obct's mate 666 take photographs but sure as hell you could not just stop full stop,keep being involved in some way.
Tux
Tux

Tux

VIC

3829 posts

23 Feb 2015 9:18am
666....body surfing...mat's...boogie boards...whatever keep you in the water I reckon...I am having ankle surgery in about 6 weeks and it looks like putting me out of commission for about 12-20 weeks but I know as soon as I am out of the cast I will be on my mat or off with my handboard and one flipper
green0
green0

VIC

18 posts

23 Feb 2015 1:42pm
In 2000 I was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis, I was only 30. Prior to this I was surfing places like Indicators in Streaky Bay.

Over the years I struggled along with my short board, never really all that comfortable, and very angry that this happened to me. It took me a long time to accept I would never be able to surf how I wanted to again. By 2007 my wrists had completely fused together, which meant getting to my feet near impossible. As the 666ers started to develop I watch closely. Since 2009 I've had several 666ers, and thank my lucky stars I've been able to get in the water.

I left the anger behind a long time ago, any through diet, the right meds I've been relatively healthy, and 90% free of disease pain. The last year I've been in the gym, and have seen my strength improve markedly. I started doing pushups on my fists, at first just a couple on my knees, and then before I new it 20 on my toes.

This summer I started pushing to my feet from a prone position on my 666er, and just for fun had a crack on a soft board, and found I could do it no probs!

I'm now a proud owner of a McTavish Fireball, and itching to get on the nose.

Just wanted to give people some inspiration. Never give up! It doesn't matter what you ride, just do it with respect, and don't stop doing it.
jbshack
jbshack

WA

6913 posts

23 Feb 2015 11:24am
Surfing in Hawaii i noticed this guy, who knows he looked about 60 but sounded like he was 80 anyway he would belly board these huge waves and rip up and down, paddling back out and do it again. One time whilst struggling to breathe and paddle this guy caught up to me and we sat for a moment whilst i got my breathe back. I asked he why he laid down He replied in the oldest voice you can imagine, "Oh sonny, I'm way to old to stand up these days" A huge grin and of he paddled off leaving me dead in the water

I guess its what ever it takes to get the stoke..
Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

23 Feb 2015 1:28pm
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green0 said..
In 2000 I was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis, I was only 30. Prior to this I was surfing places like Indicators in Streaky Bay.

Over the years I struggled along with my short board, never really all that comfortable, and very angry that this happened to me. It took me a long time to accept I would never be able to surf how I wanted to again. By 2007 my wrists had completely fused together, which meant getting to my feet near impossible. As the 666ers started to develop I watch closely. Since 2009 I've had several 666ers, and thank my lucky stars I've been able to get in the water.

I left the anger behind a long time ago, any through diet, the right meds I've been relatively healthy, and 90% free of disease pain. The last year I've been in the gym, and have seen my strength improve markedly. I started doing pushups on my fists, at first just a couple on my knees, and then before I new it 20 on my toes.

This summer I started pushing to my feet from a prone position on my 666er, and just for fun had a crack on a soft board, and found I could do it no probs!

I'm now a proud owner of a McTavish Fireball, and itching to get on the nose.

Just wanted to give people some inspiration. Never give up! It doesn't matter what you ride, just do it with respect, and don't stop doing it.


Great story and thanks for sharing.
E T
E T

E T

QLD

2286 posts

23 Feb 2015 2:14pm
What the hell JBShack, there isn't anything wrong with looking "about 60",
the problem arises when you start acting like you are "about 60".

ET.
jbshack
jbshack

WA

6913 posts

23 Feb 2015 4:08pm
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E T said..
What the hell JBShack, there isn't anything wrong with looking "about 60",
the problem arises when you start acting like you are "about 60".

ET.


IM only guessing at his age. He seemed much older in his voice. Im serous when i say maybe 80 ish.. But he seemed much fitter thats what i was getting at
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