Hoping someone that owns an 8ft SuperfishII PE or X2 or SF XL can tell me how much their board weighs?? I just bought the SuperfishII FutureFlex which weighs in at 14.5 pounds (6.58kg). GSI advertises the PE and X2 as light but they don't specifically say the FutureFlex is light. But I expected it to be light due to biaxial fiberglass, epoxy, and carbon rails. I asked GSI and they danced around the question. I like the FutureFlex concept but also like lighter boards. Lighter seems easier to manuever plus a slightly easier paddle for grandpa. Perhaps it's just in-my-head, but still curious. Either way, I'm sticking with a Superfish, but might exchange the FF for a PE or X2 if they are signifcantly lighter.

Thanks in advance

Howdy,

I have the SF v1 in PU @ 7'3" and the new Epoxy SF v2 (X2) also at 7'3"...

Whilst I have not weighed them, I would say the X2 'feels' lighter in my hands... Note that they surf very different, and I had a lot of trouble adjusting to the X2 board - it just seemed to sit too high in the water/on the wave...and would 'skate' rather than 'surf' the wave...

Having said that, it paddles really well and is very fast, and now that I am used to it I like it.

6.5 kegs isn't very light actually.
I think my 8'6 PU is 6.5, and that was glassed to last.

Yes, just checked, 6.5. I have a 9'0 PU at 5.8kgs.
My 9'6 gun that was glassed medium heavy is about 7.4/7.5kg.
My 8'0 Gun that I'm riding in my icon photo is about 6.8kg, and that is glassed very heavy.

Sorry, but you have a heavy / bad glass job. But seriously, what else would you really expect from GSI? I'm guessing that the board was glassed and sanded by a bunch of guys working for about $7 an hour, and who have probably never surfed, although they have been taught to glass by guys who do surf... GSI... Your choice to buy a board for a certain cheap price though. Don't mean to sound blunt and nasty... But GSI are NQR... Not Quite Right.

Open the wallet, ring up McTavish and order what you really want, and ask for a light glass job. Get a Bobsled 8'0, glassed light, with the resin squeezed out. Go for some tints, and ask for wet rub (no glass coat) to save weight.

This is wet rub, and this board has tints, feels light under the arm... 8 foot or so. This photo was taken in Yokohama.

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Simondo said...

Yes, just checked, 6.5. I have a 9'0 PU at 5.8kgs.
My 9'6 gun that was glassed medium heavy is about 7.4/7.5kg.
My 8'0 Gun that I'm riding in my icon photo is about 6.8kg, and that is glassed very heavy.

Sorry, but you have a heavy / bad glass job. But seriously, what else would you really expect from GSI? I'm guessing that the board was glassed and sanded by a bunch of guys working for about $7 an hour, and who have probably never surfed, although they have been taught to glass by guys who do surf... GSI... Your choice to buy a board for a certain cheap price though. Don't mean to sound blunt and nasty... But GSI are NQR... Not Quite Right.

Open the wallet, ring up McTavish and order what you really want, and ask for a light glass job. Get a Bobsled 8'0, glassed light, with the resin squeezed out. Go for some tints, and ask for wet rub (no glass coat) to save weight.

Different strokes for different folks Simondo. I am here right now and daily I see stuff that leaves Aussie factories literally in the dust. I am a patriot as well mate and not many people can say they tried harder to unite or bring the Aussie industry into the future than I in all honesty. To say the quality from Thailand is bad sounds to me like you have China and Thailand mixed up.

At 6.5kgs the board with high density fully fused EPS foam, strong glass, carbon etc it's about right for the volume. The 8'0 Super Fish is not exactly low volume.

I usually don't comment on these issues but.....

Fair enough CMC. Yes, GSI probably are turning out quite a bit of good stuff. High quality, light weight, strong, etc. But but why is "this one" weighing in at nearly 7 kegs? I'm suggesting that this board slipped through quality control??? Didn't get a weigh-in...

From memory, Mick Fanning's benchmark is 2.5 kegs for a white 6'0...

PS - I'm taking his word on face value that it is 6.8 kegs. 6.8! That's almost a "brick"!

Old GSI Carbon 666 paddles were like 1kg, shortly there after other products were weighing in at 420 grams. But I stress, that was yesty-year!

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Simondo said...

Fair enough CMC. Yes, GSI probably are turning out quite a bit of good stuff. High quality, light weight, strong, etc. But but why is "this one" weighing in at nearly 7 kegs? I'm suggesting that this board slipped through quality control??? Didn't get a weigh-in...

From memory, Mick Fanning's benchmark is 2.5 kegs for a white 6'0...

PS - I'm taking his word on face value that it is 6.8 kegs. 6.8! That's almost a "brick"!

Old GSI Carbon 666 paddles were like 1kg, shortly there after other products were weighing in at 420 grams. But I stress, that was yesty-year!

Just back of the envelope calculations.

Micks 6'0 at 2.5kgs is probably around 23 Liters volume.

The 8'0 Superfish is around 70 Liters. Dims 8'0 x 23 x 3.

At more than 3 times the volume than MF's board I am not sure such a high volumed shape at 6.5kgs is really heavy. Especially if you compare that MF's board is an ultra light blank with 1 single layer of 4 ounce top and bottom, normally a miracle to last longer than a couple of events. I do not believe that this Super Fish was made to be ultra light.

Sure, it could be made lighter but a lighter core means less durability, less glass, less durability. These boards are made to last using the best quality materials. Honestly if you seen what I have you would know there are no shortcuts here, this is not China and also Future Flex themselves have extremely tight control of the process for their technology.


P.S I don't work for GSI either.

Sorry, his board 6.58, not 6.8 as I mentioned (2nd time around).
You are right CMC, 6.58 isn't that bad. Although 6.0 would be easily achieved.

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Simondo said...

Yes, just checked, 6.5. I have a 9'0 PU at 5.8kgs.
My 9'6 gun that was glassed medium heavy is about 7.4/7.5kg.
My 8'0 Gun that I'm riding in my icon photo is about 6.8kg, and that is glassed very heavy.

Sorry, but you have a heavy / bad glass job. But seriously, what else would you really expect from GSI? I'm guessing that the board was glassed and sanded by a bunch of guys working for about $7 an hour, and who have probably never surfed, although they have been taught to glass by guys who do surf... GSI... Your choice to buy a board for a certain cheap price though. Don't mean to sound blunt and nasty... But GSI are NQR... Not Quite Right.

Open the wallet, ring up McTavish and order what you really want, and ask for a light glass job. Get a Bobsled 8'0, glassed light, with the resin squeezed out. Go for some tints, and ask for wet rub (no glass coat) to save weight.

Or you could go to Wizstick who it's the Australian shaper that shaped all the Superfish plugs and get exactly what you want-made in Australia. Check out the board on the left. Not sure how much it weighs but you can ask for a glass job as heavy or light as you like.

Out of those 3 boards, which one do you use the most!?
Trick question, I assume you use the Wizstick the most, unless you just recently re-waxed the other two!

^^^ actually the 3 board belong to 3 of us, all in the pensioner category after a surf at Byron some time ago. All good boards

Who cares....
It's 7.30lm a Saturday.....get some goon shine up ya? Gizzie is....

Happy bday you old............. F

Much thanks for the replies. Since posting the question I got wind that the 8' SFII X2 weighed in at 6.28kgs (with fins) and the previous Superfish1 XL weighed in at 7.1kgs. So the SFII FutureFlex at 6.58kgs with fins and no leash seems comparable, which was a big relief to hear.

Simondo, I had the same thoughts as you regarding 6.58kgs being heavy for an 8.0 board. But I'm believing/hoping CMC hit the nail on the head. More foam means more weight, you can't avoid it. GSI lists volume at 66.9ltrs which is similiar volume as many longer boards. If anyone has a Bobsled 8.0 weight that'd be interesting to see?

GSI did admit they had some slight weight differences between same model board, which is why they don't post weights. This does make some sense. I'd bet most shapers have some variance, though I shouldn't speak for them as I could lose this bet. But so far, it appears my SFII FF is about the weight it should be. It'd be interesting to see if others can weigh in on their 8' SFII board's weight? X2? PE? FF?

Considered the Bobsled, but SFII has a little more volume, great reviews (on GSI website and elsewhere), and the shape looks perfect for what I was looking for. Surfed it only once so far (now tougher to exchange, thus the fear of the weight). The board is loose for an 8'0 board and it is fast. Just wanted to make sure I'm getting near maximum paddle.

Walden Magic Model 9'0"=70ltr
McTavish Bobsled 7'6=55ltr
McTavish Original 9'1"=65ltr
SuperfishII 8'0"=66.9ltr

Lastly, and hope this is cool: I'm from states, Huntington Beach, California. No borders for boarders??

welcome drew. we like anyone mate,even seppos we love pics of boards and waves....so start posting some pics from the good ol u s off a please

Yeah, pics please.
The foam is probably only about 1/4 of the weight. The bulk of the weight is in the Resins, and stringers add a little bit.

4mm wide stringer in an 8 footer, 2.43m x 50mm average depth =
2.43m x .004 x .05 = 0.000486m3 x say 550kg/m3 for plywood, assumed = 267 grams.

5mm stringer in an 8 footer would be roughly 333 grams, or 1/3 of a kilo.

6mm wide stringer in a 9 footer is approx (55mm average depth, assumed);
2.75m x .006 x .055 = 0.00091m3 x 550kg/m3 = bang on 500 grams. A 1/2 kilo.

Above is approximate only...