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obct
obct

NSW

3487 posts

8 Dec 2012 2:26pm
The man serving customers in the Brookvale branch of BOC gas and go at noon today thought is was hilarious that the nurse killed herself because of the prank call.

I did not think it was very funny, and I'm someone who knows few boundaries when it comes to comedy.

I'm not a fan of prank phone calls, I think they are just about the lowest form of comedy you can come up with, as an example, they're most often the favored domain of children.

I know I'm generalizing, but from the sound of her fist name and her sir name, English may have been a second language for that nurse.

No wonder 2 children, who should never have been allowed to play with telephones or microphones were able to exploite her. I hope she did not receive hash treatment from her employers, that would be a double whammy she did not deserve.

I overheard the Counter salesman say to his customer, "the queen must have said something that really upset her" and then he had a good chuckle in homage to his comedic brilliance.

No, it wasn't done in a satirical way, I know what satire is, and I doubt he did.

This guy was a knuckle dragged of the highest order, short, squat, face only a mother could love and a shaved head with a permanent five o'clock shadow.

We're it not for the fact that MR and I had just had a bad sesh dealing with a chronic drop in and I did not feel in the mood for more agro, I may have ventured forth with a critique of his efforts.







thePup
thePup

13831 posts

8 Dec 2012 11:32am
^^^
whole situation is buggered mate , no winners in this one
obct
obct

NSW

3487 posts

8 Dec 2012 2:38pm
Too true, but I do really hate prank phone calls.

Perhaps that's why I find this such an emotive issue.

thePup
thePup

13831 posts

8 Dec 2012 11:47am
Waste of a life that was serving a community - Nursing is already a high stress occupation without this sort of rubbish , poor soul must have taken/done it real hard to do this to herself.
I doubt consequence will happen to the kids involved , given what I've seen already ... stinks this lot mate
stuk
stuk

NSW

894 posts

8 Dec 2012 2:50pm
Totally agree I felt sorry for the two nurses to start with when it happened they being used in that manner. A very sad story, had children as well I believe.
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

8 Dec 2012 12:00pm
Yep sad in deed she has two children and a hubby,I wonder the two DJ's feel right now.
A joke is a joke but this guy serving over stepped the line you dont joke about death.
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

8 Dec 2012 2:16pm
a tragic story, nothing to be joked about.


the dj's prank went badly wrong, but the nurse may have had other issues or problems.

i've never found jokes about peoples deaths funny ie amy winehouse etc
towball
towball

4634 posts

8 Dec 2012 12:49pm
Yep not a good look I really feel for the kids that lost a mother The world is full of drop kicks
chicken396
chicken396

VIC

59 posts

8 Dec 2012 4:22pm
I totally agree obct
chrispychru
chrispychru

QLD

7932 posts

8 Dec 2012 4:07pm
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laceys lane said...
a tragic story, nothing to be joked about.


the dj's prank went badly wrong, but the nurse may have had other issues or problems.




i completely agree. yet now the media are like vultures on a dead body.
personally i do not like that sort of radio show humour or there music,but plenty of people do enjoy it. geez imagine if someone killed themselves after a interview with john laws or ray hadley,they say far more menacing things and hurtful words to people,far worse than a prank phone call imo.. it is very sad when anybody goes,far worse when it is that person who makes the choice to do it. but i do feel sorry for the mess these radio people have got themselves into.
also i think what that kyle did with the young girl and her mum was way worse than this prank call as far as ****ing with someones head
obct
obct

NSW

3487 posts

8 Dec 2012 7:21pm
As I recall, that incident earned that idiot a major mention in our " people I'd like to Punch thread"

boofy
boofy

NSW

2110 posts

8 Dec 2012 8:12pm
Very ,very sad story hospitals are no place for practical jokes these two morons need to be charged with something. What I find really sad is peoples fascination with this royal family its all so boring. I loathe the repetitive mundane comedy that most commercial radio stations spew out its all been done before. As for Kyle It scares me that he has got fans and followers.
obct
obct

NSW

3487 posts

8 Dec 2012 8:21pm
Even Adolph Hitler still has a lot of fan boys boofy.

There's just no accounting for some people mentality, or lack there of.

Simondo
Simondo

VIC

8024 posts

8 Dec 2012 8:24pm
off topic...
There was another radio drive time show giving prizes to couples who could having matching separate stories about when and where they last had sex...

He said... Last night, kitchen table.
She said... Last night... Up the bum... ... The answer to "where", was "up the bum". Even though the answers were not a complete match, they still got the prize!!
CMC
CMC

CMC

QLD

3954 posts

8 Dec 2012 7:50pm
Allow me to play devils advocate here. This is also coming from someone much closer to suicide than most if you get my drift. Learning about the psychology is extremely interesting.

Just one example for you and I have a few; a family member, intelligent, great job, beautiful family walks out to go to work one morning. His motorbike does not start. 5 years off work, countless stints in the mental ward and 6 attempts at his life later. Nothing to do with motorbikes but this was his trigger.

In this case the prank call started a reaction, they called, it made the English media, they went for the jugular, she could not face the intense scrutiny and attention from them. She commits. Once again probably not to do with the Aussie DJ's, the English media or the motorbike that didn't start but more than likely some degree of mental illness.

Why am I putting it this way???

Because boys, we are not bullet proof or invincible, keep your head in check and for fark sake if life feels to much to deal with talk to someone. You are not alone.
chrispychru
chrispychru

QLD

7932 posts

8 Dec 2012 7:52pm
^^^^
+100
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

8 Dec 2012 6:21pm
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CMC said...
Allow me to play devils advocate here. This is also coming from someone much closer to suicide than most if you get my drift. Learning about the psychology is extremely interesting.

Just one example for you and I have a few; a family member, intelligent, great job, beautiful family walks out to go to work one morning. His motorbike does not start. 5 years off work, countless stints in the mental ward and 6 attempts at his life later. Nothing to do with motorbikes but this was his trigger.

In this case the prank call started a reaction, they called, it made the English media, they went for the jugular, she could not face the intense scrutiny and attention from them. She commits. Once again probably not to do with the Aussie DJ's, the English media or the motorbike that didn't start but more than likely some degree of mental illness.

Why am I putting it this way???

Because boys, we are not bullet proof or invincible, keep your head in check and for fark sake if life feels to much to deal with talk to someone. You are not alone.


Some good food in there CM ... lost a childhood mate in '96 to a full-on substance suicide and to this day I still cannot fathom the whole picture - from the why's to the why didn'ts .... then there's the side of the good folks left to pick up what's left behind ..... good post mate!
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

8 Dec 2012 9:32pm
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chrispychru said...
^^^^
+100



+ 1 Well said CMC. This whole saga is just so terribly sad.
kadilak
kadilak

QLD

605 posts

9 Dec 2012 8:07am
We all have our own battles to fight, and it is incredibly sad when it ends like this. On the surface it is difficult to see how vulnerable many people are. I think it is important for people to know if you are taking the p!ss, so they can enjoy the joke too, otherwise it is a spiteful joke, and can be the straw that breaks the camels back.

On my kids camp 14 years ago, I was shocked to see just how emotionally supportive the kids were when doing the challenging activities. A bit like the attitude of the fine character that frequent this forum, shame we can"t drive that ethic into our broader culture.
SP
SP

SP

10982 posts

9 Dec 2012 9:16am
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Ted the Kiwi said...
chrispychru said...
^^^^
+100



+ 1 Well said CMC. This whole saga is just so terribly sad.


That's it's it's a horrible situation all round, I'm not defending the prank, but it has been done thousand of times before and in this case they picked what seems like a really fragile target with a tragic outcome, I don't think we should lynch the DJs. the radio management lawyers etc who all saw it before going to air also have a responsibility, imo pobably a larger one than the DJ to make sure these thing are in good taste, it probably wasn't even the poor DJs fault, they may have been given a script and said, we are doing this..
I also believe the Uk media have flogged it to death over ther and surely this scrutiny hasn't helped the poor lady who must of had other stuff going on. But. It is a tragedy and all the sections of the media need to have a good hard look at themselves and what they think is entertainment and / or newsworthy and even then how they present it..

I Saw on the news Jeff Kennet of beyond Blue came out and said they were counselling and helping the DJs through it, it must be horrible for them, I sure they feel somewhat culpable even if they had no intent starting out, there actions have led to a horrible outcome.

And ..... Sometimes the easiest thing is to talk to a stranger, they won't judge you, they dont know you and they have dealt with stuff like this before.

www.beyondblue.org.au/home



Tassiedevel
Tassiedevel

TAS

2249 posts

9 Dec 2012 3:49pm
Well said SP , whole thing is very sad for everybody involved ..
SP
SP

SP

10982 posts

10 Dec 2012 5:07pm
Some very uncomfortable tv on a current affair tonight...
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

10 Dec 2012 8:09pm
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SP said...
Some very uncomfortable tv on a current affair tonight...


yep. And on a lighter note that promo picture had clearly been photoshopped!!!!
obct
obct

NSW

3487 posts

10 Dec 2012 8:44pm
I see that the media company that owns the station has now entered the fray by claiming to have taken all steps possible to contact the hospital and warn them of the prank.

Speaking generally, I've actually had a media company as a tenant in a building I managed in Nth Sydney, not saying what media company, just say'n it was a media company that put out a lot of shows.

And what an arrogant bunch of filthy thoughtless pigs they were. They had no regard for the feelings of anyone or anything and they could lie better that pigs in sh!t.

The arrogance of them was deep and wide, it started at the top and permeated every level of the company all the way down to the most lowly office assistant.

It was humiliating to see see a 17 year old with a snotty nose and an attitude to match, talk to a fully grown man, sometimes a grandfather with a wealth of experience in the building services industry, as if they were a piece of dirt.

One of my people retaliated once and said to one of them that if she was a daughter of his "he would put her over his knee and give her a damn good hiding".

He paid for that with his job and I was the one who had to do the sacking knowing full well how badly he must have been belittle before he said it. He and I remained friends because he knew I had no choice .

In the industry we have a name for it, we call it "playing Dress-ups" just like children do when they put on grown up cloths and pretend they're important adults.

There I go again! likening them to children.

As I said, I simply can't remember what media company it was.

Sorry, did I say "media company"? I meant pig farm.

stuk
stuk

NSW

894 posts

10 Dec 2012 10:41pm
And you know what obct, they were probably the bullies at school who thought it fun to play with the emotions of others they thought were less than they.

I hate bullies and I hate smartarses, put the ****heads in place I say.

And these radio stations and other media outlets playing up to it all. I saw Tracy Grimshaw of ACA playing mother to these idiots. I mean her of all people, she whos program habitually plays the same game.
MichaelR
MichaelR

NSW

862 posts

11 Dec 2012 1:41am
OB, you mentioned the crappy sesh we had on Saturday, where we were both appalled at the rude, arrogant and moronic comments coming back from a bloke who (at his age of I'd guess around 45) clearly should have known better than to behave the way he behaved.

We also commented that we were even more disappointed in the fact that his poor behavior was performed in front of his children, and other younger folk around us, including my nephew, who could not believe there were people like him in existence. Yet or protagonist bristled at the fact that he had "told us a thing or two" in front of his children, as if it was a perfectly normal and acceptable thing to do.

The tragic circumstances of the nurse involved in this childish prank are a sober reminder that we, as humans, who are supposed to be civilised, really are no more than animals for the most part.

That bloke in the surf on Saturday, was a classic example of someone who is on one hand complaining about the youth of today, yet he himself is teaching them disrespect and selfishness. Please don't think I'm generalising here, I'm not, but there are more and more parents who are so wrapped up in their own narcissistic little worlds that they simply don't give a toss about anyone else but themselves, and they're teaching that to their children who now think its perfectly fine to break the law, disrespect other people and their property. A sin hidden is half forgiven seems to be thier motto, and if they do get caught they spend all their time fighting to prove that they didn't do anything wrong.

We have police who flaunt the law, in full view of the people they are sworn to protect and serve. They set us a very poor example by hiding behind cameras, and being actually afraid in some cases to "have a chat" to the young lads and lasses that need to be reminded of what is acceptable and what is not.

I the case of this poor nurse, CMC is on the money when he says there must have been more to it than just the prank call, and even though prank calls have been standard fare since Candid Camera, never is there anything that doesn't go to air before having the victim give their permission. When the people at this radio station put ratings and potential advertising revenue before the rules and more importantly before the morally right thing to do, is where you see the results of poor parenting and poor social and cultural education.

It is also a very sad fact that it's a first world problem, where we are all so hungry for that almighty dollar, that for the sake of potentially earning a few more bucks, or gaining some extra notariety, we are prepared to inflict such utter grief and torment on another human being, that they will commit suicide.

You know what's even worse? It seems the antisocial behavior on the part of our younger generations has been happening for 8,000 years....

www.anxietyculture.com/antisocial.htm

Now, that's HEAVY.

Oh, and look up narcissistic personality disorder and see how many of these so called media types fit the description.

Rant over

MR
obct
obct

NSW

3487 posts

11 Dec 2012 3:55am
MR, that guy hit the showers with his kid at the same time as me, because the boy was with him, there was little I could say to him, so I just said, "thanks for the good surf mate, it was really enjoyable, we must do it again some time soon".

All I got was a grunt in return, but what I did notice was 2 things, firstly, just like out in the water, he would speak to you without looking at you, he refused to make any eye contact. Secondly, he must be in some way associated with the SLSC because of where he parked, which explains why he thought he owned the beach.

beerdead
beerdead

NSW

433 posts

11 Dec 2012 8:47pm
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MichaelR said...
OB, you mentioned the crappy sesh we had on Saturday, where we were both appalled at the rude, arrogant and moronic comments coming back from a bloke who (at his age of I'd guess around 45) clearly should have known better than to behave the way he behaved.

We also commented that we were even more disappointed in the fact that his poor behavior was performed in front of his children, and other younger folk around us, including my nephew, who could not believe there were people like him in existence. Yet or protagonist bristled at the fact that he had "told us a thing or two" in front of his children, as if it was a perfectly normal and acceptable thing to do.

The tragic circumstances of the nurse involved in this childish prank are a sober reminder that we, as humans, who are supposed to be civilised, really are no more than animals for the most part.

That bloke in the surf on Saturday, was a classic example of someone who is on one hand complaining about the youth of today, yet he himself is teaching them disrespect and selfishness. Please don't think I'm generalising here, I'm not, but there are more and more parents who are so wrapped up in their own narcissistic little worlds that they simply don't give a toss about anyone else but themselves, and they're teaching that to their children who now think its perfectly fine to break the law, disrespect other people and their property. A sin hidden is half forgiven seems to be thier motto, and if they do get caught they spend all their time fighting to prove that they didn't do anything wrong.

We have police who flaunt the law, in full view of the people they are sworn to protect and serve. They set us a very poor example by hiding behind cameras, and being actually afraid in some cases to "have a chat" to the young lads and lasses that need to be reminded of what is acceptable and what is not.

I the case of this poor nurse, CMC is on the money when he says there must have been more to it than just the prank call, and even though prank calls have been standard fare since Candid Camera, never is there anything that doesn't go to air before having the victim give their permission. When the people at this radio station put ratings and potential advertising revenue before the rules and more importantly before the morally right thing to do, is where you see the results of poor parenting and poor social and cultural education.

It is also a very sad fact that it's a first world problem, where we are all so hungry for that almighty dollar, that for the sake of potentially earning a few more bucks, or gaining some extra notariety, we are prepared to inflict such utter grief and torment on another human being, that they will commit suicide.

You know what's even worse? It seems the antisocial behavior on the part of our younger generations has been happening for 8,000 years....

www.anxietyculture.com/antisocial.htm

Now, that's HEAVY.

Oh, and look up narcissistic personality disorder and see how many of these so called media types fit the description.

Rant over

MR



You are so right re narcisstic personality;
Symptoms of this disorder include[1]:

Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
Requires excessive admiration
Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
Is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
Shows arrogant, haughty behavior or attitudes.
(DSM-IV-TR 301.81)
Think managers, executives, politicians etc. These people construct realitys which reinforce their extraordinary opinion of themselves, such as agrandising themselves on media. Interestingly, did anyone else think that the bloke on the 'A Current Affair' interview was false and superficial.

The other bloke fits antisocial personaltiy, which is close to narcisistic personality, but veers towards expressing self entitlement in violent and illegal manners;

A) There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three or more of the following:

failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;
deception, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;
impulsiveness or failure to plan ahead;
irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults;
reckless disregard for safety of self or others;
consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations;
lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another;

B) The individual is at least age 18 years.
C) There is evidence of conduct disorder with onset before age 15 years.
D) The occurrence of antisocial behavior is not exclusively during the course of schizophrenia or a manic episode.
(DSM-IV-TR)

Do these sound familiar?
I find their imposition of their selfish reality on my own special one devaluing. :)

MichaelR
MichaelR

NSW

862 posts

12 Dec 2012 1:20am
Beerdead! Well said mate, it's nice to know there are a few out there who get "it". But I fear we are becoming more outnumbered as the years progress.

beerdead
beerdead

NSW

433 posts

12 Dec 2012 9:51pm
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MichaelR said...
Beerdead! Well said mate, it's nice to know there are a few out there who get "it". But I fear we are becoming more outnumbered as the years progress.


Wish I had said it, but it's straight out of the Diagnostic statistics Manual.

I believe they are considering removing them from the DSM. Is that because self importance is becoming normal?
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