So do I glass it nice and heavy like a traditional log - Volan with loads of resin or just a couple of 6's because it will be so dam big anyway? I want it to be a classic nose riding beast with 60/40 rails - and I am planning to really thin the tail out - it will have lots of tail lift through that last 12 inches or so. The biggest thing that I would like from this board is that I can go out when its 1/2 to 2ft and soft n clean and have a ball. Those days when I normally do not bother surfing or when I am holidaying at a long right point break and I can just make a pig of myself

I have only ever surfed one 10fter n it was ob's - it was great fun and pretty light from memory. Vander's one seemed fairly light as well - wish I had not passed up on the offer to have a wave on it. Error - massive.

sounds awesome ..... im not sure boards come under 10 foot do they ?

hey my 9'8 is light for its length and preforms really well in very small conditions that i mostly get

if it helps

pics mate pics or all this is worthless

no mention of how wide ted.
or thick...you kiwis only care about length

Go heavy Ted,weight on a log is the ants pants,oh the glide smash those dead sections like a hammer to glass

heavy ted but don't go nuts. mate you will love this type of board. if it anything like my hotlog.

makes any wave fun. i don't even need the best waves on a small day- any wave will do.


and they are just so god dam fast if you don't get a stupid big drag fin that some like. why you would want to slow your board down is beyond me. there are ways to slow a board when you need too.







in the top ten of surfboards i've ever had

That grass looks insane


But yes Lacey catches a ripple all day every day,such an easy wave catcher.

Heavy, but not to heavy is my 2c
Although heavy is good when it is small, they paddle into waves very easy but at the same time they don't like to turn as easy.

Ted my 10' is pretty light, my new 10'2 is at least 1/3 heavier and certainly noticeable in the water, lighter board is easier to move around but the design is also conducive to this, the 10'2 defiantly handles the dead sections so much better & you can pick up those reforms and just keep going. The heavier board does take a little more to build momentum when paddling into a wave but once it's going is also faster down the line, once again it has a flatter rocker so should be expected.

In short for what your talking I'd go volan so you'll have a bit more weight, if need be shape a lighter model next up, you can't have too many.

i want to do a 6 ft hotlog

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laceys lane said...
i want to do a 6 ft hotlog

A mini mini.

Weiry will do his nut..

Did you decide on a fin for the hot log?

I surfed with one of Steve Del Rosso's team riders this morning. His boards range from 4oz x 2oz to 6oz x 4oz. He didn't know how the board he was riding today was glassed, but he said it was heavier & it felt nice & light for a LB to me...personally I would go 8 x 4 & increase the strength with the shape. A deep single concave through to the middle to a double concave running out to the fins. This way the transition from SB to LB & back will be easier imo


Oh & a bit of weight in a LB can be good unless its glassy everyday for ya.

Thanks fellas - some great responses there - much appreciated.

Jas - you are a light weight - so that must be a big board for you Will get some pics at the w/e or sooner if work permits

Weiry - its not finished yet but its looking like its 10*23*3 at this stage with a pretty straight outline. But after seeing LL's maybe the rails should not be as parallel

Mac / SP / Mick / LL / Vanders after surfing the beer garden board (BGB) a bit this last week I am absolutely convinced on a lighter more responsive board - but not really sure if that is exactly what I want for those choppy days on the point when I just want to be able to smash through a section or two. I got bounced off the BGB several times on the other morning due to the chop. But then later in the day when it was glassy that board became the best LB I have ever had the pleasure of riding. That SDR sure knows how to make a board. It blew my mind.

LL- nice grass as Mac says. Your hot log looks like it has lots of tail rocker - whats going on under the bonnet ?

Vanders - this will be the last LB I shape for a while unless I really stuff it up and need to go again. My wish list of boards is long and the quiver needs to be finished by August.

SP - not even thought about the fin yet - might take LL's advice and get something nice and fast

nose concave. the rest is all rolled and chimed. for glide and speed. i think too what im seeing from my experience with race 666's is that type of bottom shape keeps the board more in the water where a flat/edged or concave type bottoms planes and lifts.

i thinks as a nose rider you don't want it lifting or planning. planning boards can get fast instant speed but drop off again just as quickly. a round bottom edged board gets gliding through longer.


the outline does have some curve but possibly the photo is showing more than there really is

I'm getting a wee bit excited reading about this board. Looking forward to another build thread

Ted, mine turned out heavy due to a gross lack of glassing practice, but it pushes onto waves and absolutely flies through all sections, hollow or flat. It catch's waves easier than my epoxy log.

I used normal 6 oz, 2 on top and 1 on the bottom. I also put a 4 oz knee pad in the middle, cause some days it's a 10' knee board' :D

Can't turn it though.

Needs a flashing amber light and a beeper alarm on it.

10 oz x 8 oz volan with a 6 oz deck patch....big...wide...heavy and flat...

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laceys lane said...
nose concave. the rest is all rolled and chimed. for glide and speed. i think too what im seeing from my experience with race 666's is that type of bottom shape keeps the board more in the water where a flat/edged or concave type bottoms planes and lifts.

i thinks as a nose rider you don't want it lifting or planning. planning boards can get fast instant speed but drop off again just as quickly. a round bottom edged board gets gliding through longer.


the outline does have some curve but possibly the photo is showing more than there really is

Agree totally with you LL..and 6x6x6 should be plenty..maybe a kneel patch as well...finbox for sure.

Maybe a Blue tint to commemorate 2014..the year of the Cockroach

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laceys lane said...
nose concave. the rest is all rolled and chimed. for glide and speed. i think too what im seeing from my experience with race 666's is that type of bottom shape keeps the board more in the water where a flat/edged or concave type bottoms planes and lifts.

i thinks as a nose rider you don't want it lifting or planning. planning boards can get fast instant speed but drop off again just as quickly. a round bottom edged board gets gliding through longer.


the outline does have some curve but possibly the photo is showing more than there really is

Whats the go with the BGB, it's in NSW for a while, then VIC for awhile then SA???

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beerdead said...
Ted, mine turned out heavy due to a gross lack of glassing practice, but it pushes onto waves and absolutely flies through all sections, hollow or flat. It catch's waves easier than my epoxy log.

I used normal 6 oz, 2 on top and 1 on the bottom. I also put a 4 oz knee pad in the middle, cause some days it's a 10' knee board' :D

Can't turn it though.

Needs a flashing amber light and a beeper alarm on it.

I think ultimately thats the challenge with shaping a 10' Log. That balance between cruising/paddling speed, stability and holding as a noserider and then also something that can turn. I had a really good chat to Steve at CW about this, he was saying his first logs just had to compromise on the turning ability so he spoke to a bunch of shapers and surfers and came up with the HL design which is supposedly a great turner whilst maintaining the rest, we'll see I guess when mine arrives Will compliment my 9'4" Rob August WIR which turns awesome and flies but is very unstable on the nose...

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Maybe a Blue tint to commemorate 2014..the year of the Cockroach

my personal view is that boards that claim to do both are lying to u. Ted i think you said it all in your opening sentenence, "nice and heavy like a traditional log" and a nose rider. if you are wanting the 'glide' then heavy is ur only option also. I have riden heaps of boards over 10 ft and lets just say the lighter ones seem to push alot of water rather than glide, i believe due to the fact they dont have the weight to really sit above the water and glide, you glass something light it will sink a little and push water. For example that 11'11 deadkooks i got is a bad bad water pusher so far, maybe i havnt figured it out yet, but it doesnt have the glide like my other boards.

i would do a 8x6 on the deck and a 8 on the bottom. Thats what billy glasses all LOG type boards as standard. If you want that bit extra go 2x6 on the bottom or put a deck patch in.

if your worried about turning make it a pin tail and use a standard greenough type fin to start. There is no denying these boards require a little more weight on the back leg and concentration to make them turn, but there not designed to rip and tear. they are cruisers for those 2ft days as you say.

please dont be one of those dudes that try to make a 10ft'er that can turn on a dime, nose ride, and a cruiser. they dont exsist.

go heavy, im guessing u have never had a heavy board so atleast try it once, promise you wont be disappointed

Thanks fellas - I am inclined to go with what Big Spazz has said here. Re-reading what I initially wrote and thinking more about exactly what I want he has nailed it. Nice and heavy here we come ! Never done a deck patch so am going to give one a crack just for kicks. I think they look really nice under a tint - give it that textured look.

Anyone got any good pics of a nice patch for a log? The board will have a blue tint - and not because of the league but because I brought a big tin of blue sapphire tint last year and it needs to be used

I like these two - but probably will go for something like the orange one as it will be more functional - will not go that far north though.

i love this type of patch, because its 2 patches over the top of each other, in straight glass it looks cool because of the darker parts etc

Light & dark blues in a cool pattern like above would look pretty nice

Jeepers BS that looks well beyond my level of expertise - am stressing about doing one patch n here you are suggesting two!! I agree though it would look amazing. No chance of hiding any mistakes though What about the underneath - just a tail one over the fin box?

If doing that cross over pattern would you just use 4oz for the patches?

Contract that **** out bro....I have given up on glassing my next two boards are getting done by a pro....only an extra 50 bucks a board on top of waht it would cost to do it myself....bargain!!

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Ted the Kiwi said...
Jeepers BS that looks well beyond my level of expertise - am stressing about doing one patch n here you are suggesting two!! I agree though it would look amazing. No chance of hiding any mistakes though What about the underneath - just a tail one over the fin box?

If doing that cross over pattern would you just use 4oz for the patches?

pretty easy dude, just cut 1 triangle best u can, and lay the cut peice over the glass and cut out the exact same shape, lay that **** down and bam done. Yup do 2 4oz patches :) would equal 1 8 oz patch :) u only live once so live a litte. it will look sexual

yew

^^^ good advice

did someone say 10 foot

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Macaha said...
did someone say 10 foot

nice Mctavish mate