And now for my next noob question, where should I start when looking for some surfing warmth for the coming colder months (no rush yet). Products that would suit me need to be fitting for a cheapskate, short leg, long body, and overweight amateur. (Doesn't that paint a picture, the perfect man). Also looking for something for Queensland temperature range

Thinking about an E-Bomb Pro or Dawn Patrol vest. Thoughts?

What ever you choose,make sure its 2mm that's all you will need.

I have managed to get away most winters wearing my very old long
sleeve 2mm jacket ( I hate wearing ) my 2mm short sleeve steamer.

That's all you need,the jacket and boardies for 90% of winter,those
guy's down south must be jealous

Thanks Mac, I watched a video review of the h-bomb. Some dudes in Canada, snow on the beaches, I think I would be snowboarding not surfing.

I agree with Mac Kadil I hate steamers and get through winter with a 2mm long sleeve springy, being cold you will burn heaps more energy and wont feel so guilty when you have a Burger with the lot and large choccy Moove after your surf
Cheers Boof

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62mac said...

What ever you choose,make sure its 2mm that's all you will need.

I have managed to get away most winters wearing my very old long
sleeve 2mm jacket ( I hate wearing ) my 2mm short sleeve steamer.

That's all you need,the jacket and boardies for 90% of winter,those
guy's down south must be jealous

The guys south east are too 4x 4/3 steamers 1x 2/2 steamer 4pr booties 2pr gloves
2x hooded titanium vests should come over with ya 2mm mac

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62mac said...

What ever you choose,make sure its 2mm that's all you will need.

I have managed to get away most winters wearing my very old long
sleeve 2mm jacket ( I hate wearing ) my 2mm short sleeve steamer.

That's all you need,the jacket and boardies for 90% of winter,those
guy's down south must be jealous

So mac, is that boardies over steamer ?

Even in Sydney last year, I managed to get through the entire season without the steamer. I also hate using them, just like the others do.

(tip: if you do use one and struggle to get it over your legs, just put your foot in a plastic shopping bag before you try to put each leg in the suit, you'll find your leg slides in easily).

Someone mentioned a long sleeve springy, that sounds like a good way to go for up there because I got by all last year in Sydney with a short legged steamer.

I know you're probably saying "what's the dif" well the long sleeved springy can be 2mm all over while the short legged steamer is the normal 3/2 but without the extra rubber on the legs.

You see, water temp is probably not the issue for you, it's wind chill when you're sitting on top of the board when the southerly really blowing cold.

Another option is a shortjohn, I reckon these are great, plenty of rash protection, and as things cool down you can add layers.

1. A short sleeve rashy underneath
2. A long sleeve rashy underneath
3. A long and a short sleeve rashy underneath
4. An Adrenaline rashy underneath (Their long sleeve ones are almost the equivalent of a 2mm wetty, the only problem is, they hold a lot of water and I don't like the weight)
4. A 1mm wetty top. (and the same wetty top will probablty do you for a lot of the year with just your boardys.

Lots of option there.

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Scotty88 said...

62mac said...

What ever you choose,make sure its 2mm that's all you will need.

I have managed to get away most winters wearing my very old long
sleeve 2mm jacket ( I hate wearing ) my 2mm short sleeve steamer.

That's all you need,the jacket and boardies for 90% of winter,those
guy's down south must be jealous

So mac, is that boardies over steamer ?

No mate us Queenslanders are proud to show our bumps
and we don't have a role model like DJ to look up too

^^^^^^^

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obct said...

Even in Sydney last year, I managed to get through the entire season without the steamer. I also hate using them, just like the others do.

(tip: if you do use one and struggle to get it over your legs, just put your foot in a plastic shopping bag before you try to put each leg in the suit, you'll find your leg slides in easily).

Someone mentioned a long sleeve springy, that sounds like a good way to go for up there because I got by all last year in Sydney with a short legged steamer.

I know you're probably saying "what's the dif" well the long sleeved springy can be 2mm all over while the short legged steamer is the normal 3/2 but without the extra rubber on the legs.

You see, water temp is probably not the issue for you, it's wind chill when you're sitting on top of the board when the southerly really blowing cold.

Another option is a shortjohn, I reckon these are great, plenty of rash protection, and as things cool down you can add layers.

1. A short sleeve rashy underneath
2. A long sleeve rashy underneath
3. A long and a short sleeve rashy underneath
4. An Adrenaline rashy underneath (Their long sleeve ones are almost the equivalent of a 2mm wetty, the only problem is, they hold a lot of water and I don't like the weight)
4. A 1mm wetty top. (and the same wetty top will probablty do you for a lot of the year with just your boardys.

Lots of option there.

Great tip for getting the legs into a steamer. Got one for getting the bloody thing off when its sodden and the arms are like noodles, thats always a sight.

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So mac, is that boardies over steamer ?

I wore boardies over long skins for weeks. I only just started surfing and my skin was not used to being wet so long, and geez the chafe between the knees was bad. Skins solved that but looked stupid.

Tried surfing last weekend without the skins and seems to be better. Only a little sensitive after 2 and a half hours being wet.

Too old to care about stuff like that.

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kadil said...

Scotty88 said...

So mac, is that boardies over steamer ?

I wore boardies over long skins for weeks. I only just started surfing and my skin was not used to being wet so long, and geez the chafe between the knees was bad. Skins solved that but looked stupid.

Tried surfing last weekend without the skins and seems to be better. Only a little sensitive after 2 and a half hours being wet.

Too old to care about stuff like that.

mate it depends on whether you feel the cold of not.

if your not a run of the mill qld hero, a 2 mm steamer and long sleeve springy will get you through most of the worse of the winter. keep in mind we have had some mild winter water conditions for the last couple of years. i have a 3/2 billabong steamer solution gold for two years-worn it 4 times.

but then again i'm on a sup so not gettin that wet all the time

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kadil said...

Scotty88 said...

So mac, is that boardies over steamer ?

I wore boardies over long skins for weeks. I only just started surfing and my skin was not used to being wet so long, and geez the chafe between the knees was bad. Skins solved that but looked stupid.

Tried surfing last weekend without the skins and seems to be better. Only a little sensitive after 2 and a half hours being wet.

Too old to care about stuff like that.

oh i so hope you find some happiness for your skin and stop those nasty rashes. fmd skins hahaha come on petal what you thinking?

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oh i so hope you find some happiness for your skin and stop those nasty rashes. fmd skins hahaha come on petal what you thinking?

Thought I might spend more time surfing than looking at myself in the mirror, princess

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kadil said...

chrispychru said...



oh i so hope you find some happiness for your skin and stop those nasty rashes. fmd skins hahaha come on petal what you thinking?

Thought I might spend more time surfing than looking at myself in the mirror, princess

but with skins why? i just dont get how they will help you in the surf..sorry but i am way so cool

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but with skins why? i just dont get how they will help you in the surf..sorry but i am way so cool

You are........... like.......... my style idol

But seriously when I say skins I mean:
http://store.skins.net/au/mens-compression?gclid=CIvVgMaT_64CFYFLpgodqWee2A

And they stop the board and shorts grabbing those hairs and skin and causing a rash

kadi I don't know what boardies you wear,but get some quicksilver diamond bobby's they have a four way stretch and very soft on the shin,like shins but boardies.

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62mac said...

kadi I don't know what boardies you wear,but get some quicksilver diamond bobby's they have a four way stretch and very soft on the shin,like shins but boardies.

I don't think it was the boardies fault, more the land-lovers skin. Not a problem any more. The boardies were Billabong, not real cheap. Think they were about $70.

rashie and boardies

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jasdeking said...

rashie and boardies

agree htfu

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No mate us Queenslanders are proud to show our bumps
and we don't have a role model like DJ to look up too
But mac they have you to look up to Your the DJ of this forum just gotta change your car that's all

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kadil said...

chrispychru said...



but with skins why? i just dont get how they will help you in the surf..sorry but i am way so cool

You are........... like.......... my style idol

But seriously when I say skins I mean:
http://store.skins.net/au/mens-compression?gclid=CIvVgMaT_64CFYFLpgodqWee2A

And they stop the board and shorts grabbing those hairs and skin and causing a rash

thanks for the kind words mate but still i cant work out for the life off me how skins will help you

Long sleeve springy, or short legged steamer? Same same.

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thanks for the kind words mate but still i cant work out for the life off me how skins will help you

Tight protective layer stopped wet skin rubbing, simple as that.

And, it worked.

The style idol comment was all in fun, never seen a pic or video, but you definitely make the forum an interesting read.

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but with skins why? i just dont get how they will help you in the surf..sorry but i am way so cool

Mate once youv'e have had a bluebottle go up your boardies you will want a pair.

Always wear then under my boardies after an east / nor-eastly blow and you can see them on the shoreline.

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Locky24 said...

chrispychru said...

but with skins why? i just dont get how they will help you in the surf..sorry but i am way so cool

Mate once youv'e have had a bluebottle go up your boardies you will want a pair.

Always wear then under my boardies after an east / nor-eastly blow and you can see them on the shoreline.

Ouch

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chrispychru said...

but with skins why? i just dont get how they will help you in the surf..sorry but i am way so cool

Mate once youv'e have had a bluebottle go up your boardies you will want a pair.

Always wear then under my boardies after an east / nor-eastly blow and you can see them on the shoreline.

had a bull ant bite me in the crack hole once

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chrispychru said...

but with skins why? i just dont get how they will help you in the surf..sorry but i am way so cool

Mate once youv'e have had a bluebottle go up your boardies you will want a pair.

Always wear then under my boardies after an east / nor-eastly blow and you can see them on the shoreline.

And I thought blue balls was something else