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Serious Longboard Chat take 4

Created by 62mac 62mac  > 9 months ago, 11 Mar 2013
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62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

11 Mar 2013 7:22pm
Does good equipment help you become a better surfer
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

11 Mar 2013 7:23pm
Feck me I aint falling for this one mister [}:)]
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

11 Mar 2013 7:25pm
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thePup said...
Feck me I aint falling for this one mister [}:)]


Its a no brainer pup
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

11 Mar 2013 7:27pm
Thruster for a bit more grunt & bite


and .......









Feck am I up to date on the switcheroo geez
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

11 Mar 2013 7:30pm
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thePup said...
Thruster for a bit more grunt & bite




Failed you answered in the wrong thread pup
Simondo
Simondo

VIC

8024 posts

12 Mar 2013 9:10am
Good equipment, or at least the right equipment "should" help you become a better surfer.

An extreme example - " Surfer A" - 90kg surfer at a 1.5 foot point-break... 6'1 white shortboard...scratching around barely getting anything, getting frustrated...
"Surfer B" - also 90kg in the same conditions, on a 9'6 McTavish PinTail or Redline, or UFO, or EvoI or II, or Noosa66... having a blast!!
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

12 Mar 2013 6:13am


OK,put it this way.

Same average surfer same conditions paddles out on a crap design/shape V a good design/shape.

Boards do make a massive difference imho.
chrispychru
chrispychru

QLD

7932 posts

12 Mar 2013 8:32am
^^^^100% they do. i also believe once a surfer starts progressing that they can be held back by that nice shaped mctavish beginner board....hence i only ride clearwaters now
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

12 Mar 2013 6:34am
^ never listen to a team rider
chrispychru
chrispychru

QLD

7932 posts

12 Mar 2013 8:39am
^^^^oh how i wish...i am hiding pennies to be able to buy my new clearwater monkey chop you liked that one aye mac
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

12 Mar 2013 6:41am
Monkey chop yes good name I like it
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

12 Mar 2013 7:33am
feckenell I dunno which one I should be reading 1 2 3 or 4 or the prequel
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

12 Mar 2013 11:42am
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Simondo said...
Good equipment, or at least the right equipment "should" help you become a better surfer.

An extreme example - " Surfer A" - 90kg surfer at a 1.5 foot point-break... 6'1 white shortboard...scratching around barely getting anything, getting frustrated...
"Surfer B" - also 90kg in the same conditions, on a 9'6 McTavish PinTail or Redline, or UFO, or EvoI or II, or Noosa66... having a blast!!


Surfer A paddles out on a Firewire Sweet Potato and Surfer B paddles out on a door yet wins the heat fair and square by a country mile......

Surfer A is Ted and Surfer B is KS.

Boards make loads of difference but a good surfer can generally surf anything well from what I have seen. I think that a lot of it is in our head...what feels right under the arm, what we think is good, looks good, makes us feel good etc. I know I have had some crap boards over the years but generally speaking if they float me well I am pretty happy. Many times i wish I had my other board with me (this morning for example) but then when I was younger, lighter and fitter etc I just had one board and never seemed to moan about it! I surfed better as well !!

I have been playing around with fins a lot in the last 12 - 18 months - I used to think that all the crap that people went on about this and that was a bit over the top as I thought you would need to be a much more accomplished surfer to notice those differences....well I have realised that I was wrong . Yes I know on LB's the fins can make a massive difference - eg a D Fin to a Hatchet to a Dolphin for example - but then thats pretty obvious as they are a completely different shape.....but on a short board a change in the rake, stiffness, size etc can make a significant difference to my boards....and for yrs I never thought they would. I just remember that when I was younger my fins came glassed on and the only time you swapped them was when you hit a rock and dis-lodged them coming in at Manu Bay or Indicators.

So I guess in conclusion both the person and the equipment can make a big difference. If you are a beginner then as long as its floats you well thats all thats required..... if you are an absolute ripper then you can ride anything but if you are in the intermediate to improving range then I think that design improvements can help you out significantly at times.

Lets not forget about the conditions though....If its 4ft and perfect every board I have ever owned goes well......when its 6ft only 2 of 5 boards that I use regularly work and if its 2ft only 2 of my 5 boards that I use regularly work.

Back on equipment - never had an issue with leg ropes I just do not like the lightweight ones as I hate it when they snap.



Tux
Tux

Tux

VIC

3829 posts

12 Mar 2013 1:07pm
Massive...massive difference....if the shaper doesn't get the foam distribution...bottom contours...rail shaper...fin placemnet etc right how is the surfer supposed to perform at thier peak...granted everyones peak is different but the right equipment wil definatly help you perform at optimum levels more often
asea
asea

QLD

5544 posts

12 Mar 2013 2:13pm
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62mac said...


OK,put it this way.

Same average surfer same conditions paddles out on a crap design/shape V a good design/shape.

Boards do make a massive difference imho.


AhHA Mac maybe changing camps he's sniffing
asea
asea

QLD

5544 posts

12 Mar 2013 2:45pm
you have to have a good shaper imo
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

12 Mar 2013 12:46pm
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asea said...
62mac said...


OK,put it this way.

Same average surfer same conditions paddles out on a crap design/shape V a good design/shape.

Boards do make a massive difference imho.


AhHA Mac maybe changing camps he's sniffing


come on out with it whats the mac up to young feroffer 33
Simondo
Simondo

VIC

8024 posts

12 Mar 2013 6:15pm
I paddled out at a little beachie/reef set of twin peaks this morning. Small peaks...

I made a pig of myself... I was the only Longboarder. I could only bare to stay out for 40 minutes... felt embarrassed to be stealing all the good waves from guys on wafer thin "short-boards" that were COMPLETELY wrong for the mild/weak conditions...

I had a blast!

Some days it is just about correct board selection...
asea
asea

QLD

5544 posts

12 Mar 2013 5:23pm
saw 1 of Macs old quiver today at the pass the one with the black/red stripy rails
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

12 Mar 2013 5:49pm
i could ride the toilet door and still whip mac's ass



this shouldn't take long
Simondo
Simondo

VIC

8024 posts

12 Mar 2013 7:05pm
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laceys lane said...
i could ride the toilet door and still whip mac's ass

this shouldn't take long


Are you good on PhotoShop? Would love to see that in a photo!
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

12 Mar 2013 4:08pm
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asea said...
saw 1 of Macs old quiver today at the pass the one with the black/red stripy rails


Which one mate fireball or ufo?

Lacey

You guys just sit around and get fat I'm off to train.
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

12 Mar 2013 7:29pm
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62mac said...
asea said...
saw 1 of Macs old quiver today at the pass the one with the black/red stripy rails


Which one mate fireball or ufo?

Lacey

You guys just sit around and get fat I'm off to train.



done my training at 5.30 am and then went to work. and not sitting around on the breeze out the back of the shop drinking coffee.

bloody nancy boys. doof doof, up and down- come people put it in- haha
weiry
weiry

QLD

5396 posts

12 Mar 2013 7:48pm
or is it because tech-knowledgy (good equipment ) created Confidence
you know what its like you purchase a new board for the year (Some buy five)
you cant wait to get it wet your happy with your purchase its the latest and greatest
and most times it pulls it off until you lose that Confidence. then its time to sell.
Or you buy that new board but deep deep down there is some little doubt and that first surf didn't quite do it.
then that little voice inside your head saying, give it time, its just not the right conditions, i will lose some weight
when that happens its a tug O war of emotions and your Confidence is Gooooone.

So can tech-knowledgy Good equipment help
Yes and No... if your confident,well i think it will


Deano
Deano

WA

255 posts

12 Mar 2013 9:02pm
I reckon the correct equipment to suit your size and ability will help you become a better surfer. Never under estimate fin type, setup and how much it affects a board to.
I'm a big fan of technology in all sports if it makes me better or more confident

Your paddling into a bomb drawing of a shallow bank,yah mates are watching, if your confident in your board no hesitation, if your not that doubt in your mind will make it much harder to

Deano
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