Joe Hockey & then Wild Eyed Mole Bishop ....... well Joseph you pig here a punch in the snout for almost giving us a 15% GST you wanker and mole here's one in the chops for blowing a bucket of my cash on your private RAAF jet flight with your toyboy slapper

mmmmmmm buuuuuuurrrrrp better now

They're all the same Pup. Who said the age of entitlement is over ?

The last thing you want is a 15% gst tax , f..k paying $300 tax to the gov when you buy a new Mal, kills small business...!

Punch the author of this thread it's actually the third punch thread

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bazz61 said..
The last thing you want is a 15% gst tax , f..k paying $300 tax to the gov when you buy a new Mal, kills small business...!

yeah 15%gst with some tax cuts. next year the tax cuts go , but 15% stays. boom,boom

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laceys lane said...

bazz61 said..
The last thing you want is a 15% gst tax , f..k paying $300 tax to the gov when you buy a new Mal, kills small business...!

yeah 15%gst with some tax cuts. next year the tax cuts go , but 15% stays. boom,boom

That is true I think. The argument will be made for the move to 15% with the sweeteners but that will be eaten away with the increased cost to the consumer.

As a pay as you earn tax payer I like GST. Much fairer tax. People who hate GST are generally tradies welcome back to our world I always say.

What really sux is they abolished the carbon tax to allow foreign company's to continue raping our country for very little in return. Then expect to squeeze us even further to help make up the difference while cutting so many of our public services tax is supposedly there for...the buggers tighten the screws on pensions while them themselves receive a disgustingly over privileged retirement plan. No wonder those in the know like Turnbull have their investment returns funneling overseas.

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Ted the Kiwi said..
As a pay as you earn tax payer I like GST. Much fairer tax. People who hate GST are generally tradies welcome back to our world I always say.

Ted, Why would tradies hate the GST ?

I have a 'friend' who has never seen so much cash thrown around since GST came in.

My point as follows.

Lets say a pre GST job of $1000 and the customer says "how much for cash ?" the tradie may take it down to say $900.

Post GST that $1000 job is now $1100 with GST added on so tradie takes the price down to $1000.

Most customers are happy to have the GST knocked off apparently.

Win win for both parties.

I collect the tax for my services ted. Its no skin off my nose.

I just hate doing the gov bookwork

The reason they do not like it Scotty is that they then have to pay an extra tax on everything they consume. In effect they do not get any real tax saving offsets as they are already minimising their taxable income with write offs. Income tax payers will see an adjustment to their income tax rates as compensation so theoretically should not be too worse off. The tradies will cop it all. Like I say welcome to my world ! It astounds be how little tax all the tradies I know pay. I wish I could write off like they can but its not possible.

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Ted the Kiwi said...
The reason they do not like it Scotty is that they then have to pay an extra tax on everything they consume. In effect they do not get any real tax saving offsets as they are already minimising their taxable income with write offs. Income tax payers will see an adjustment to their income tax rates as compensation so theoretically should not be too worse off. The tradies will cop it all. Like I say welcome to my world ! It astounds be how little tax all the tradies I know pay. I wish I could write off like they can but its not possible.

Ted I dont get what you are saying.when I do a job for you I charge you gst on top for the gov. You are the payer. I just juggle it around. Input. Out put.

It only when I buy say something like every one I actually pay gst.

In fact gst is never my money

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Ted the Kiwi said...
The reason they do not like it Scotty is that they then have to pay an extra tax on everything they consume. In effect they do not get any real tax saving offsets as they are already minimising their taxable income with write offs. Income tax payers will see an adjustment to their income tax rates as compensation so theoretically should not be too worse off. The tradies will cop it all. Like I say welcome to my world ! It astounds be how little tax all the tradies I know pay. I wish I could write off like they can but its not possible.

Your tradies need to have a few beers with my tradies.
They might learn something.

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NewScotty said...

Ted the Kiwi said...
The reason they do not like it Scotty is that they then have to pay an extra tax on everything they consume. In effect they do not get any real tax saving offsets as they are already minimising their taxable income with write offs. Income tax payers will see an adjustment to their income tax rates as compensation so theoretically should not be too worse off. The tradies will cop it all. Like I say welcome to my world ! It astounds be how little tax all the tradies I know pay. I wish I could write off like they can but its not possible.

Your tradies need to have a few beers with my tradies.
They might learn something.

I'm surprised you read all that

Australians need to pay more tax so the government can afford the services we expect, instead of flogging off assets for a one off debt reduction because revenue isn't high enough. We are one of the lowest taxed countries around.

We also need compulsory super lifted to 15%.

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Ted the Kiwi said...
The reason they do not like it Scotty is that they then have to pay an extra tax on everything they consume. In effect they do not get any real tax saving offsets as they are already minimising their taxable income with write offs. Income tax payers will see an adjustment to their income tax rates as compensation so theoretically should not be too worse off. The tradies will cop it all. Like I say welcome to my world ! It astounds be how little tax all the tradies I know pay. I wish I could write off like they can but its not possible.

Your talking cashies ted. Now I get it. I know of tradies who have mysterous ways. They do know a little ted. Very fast learners

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thedrip said...
Australians need to pay more tax so the government can afford the services we expect, instead of flogging off assets for a one off debt reduction because revenue isn't high enough. We are one of the lowest taxed countries around.

We also need compulsory super lifted to 15%.

They could also stop blowing away money like it somebody elses

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towball said...

NewScotty said...

Ted the Kiwi said...
The reason they do not like it Scotty is that they then have to pay an extra tax on everything they consume. In effect they do not get any real tax saving offsets as they are already minimising their taxable income with write offs. Income tax payers will see an adjustment to their income tax rates as compensation so theoretically should not be too worse off. The tradies will cop it all. Like I say welcome to my world ! It astounds be how little tax all the tradies I know pay. I wish I could write off like they can but its not possible.

Your tradies need to have a few beers with my tradies.
They might learn something.

I'm surprised you read all that

I didn't

Cashies are a good thing .... no different to the pollies getting their donations come election time .... or organising special flights & holidays for themselves .... or claiming living away from home allowances while living at home .... long live cashies .... punch in the snout for Hamhock Hockey

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thePup said..
Cashies are a good thing .... no different to the pollies getting their donations come election time .... or organising special flights & holidays for themselves .... or claiming living away from home allowances while living at home .... long live cashies .... punch in the snout for Hamhock Hockey

More importantly Pupster, who is Bishops toy Boy?

ET.

Tax reform in the lb forum...

Fark me..... 4 beers in but I'll have a couple of cents worth..

Firstly. So we have decided the answer to The argument isn't wheter the amount of tax collected by the gov needs to increase?

When did we discuss that,so we accept it?

If yes, which I agree with..

I reckon a lift in consumption tax is good, it is a user pays system, the higher income earner will pay more tax cause he buy dearer things.

You could alter marginal tax rates to help the lower earner, increase the low income offset.

If you want to be taxes less you substutute dearer goods for cheaper goods or do buy it.

They talk about reigning on multi nats, need to be done but tradies are number 1 tax dodgers next to retirees Sal sacrificing into super

We all love a cash we all love it but it really is a form of stealing.

I wonder how much gst macs paid out on his boards over the years

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thePup said..
Cashies are a good thing .... no different to the pollies getting their donations come election time .... or organising special flights & holidays for themselves .... or claiming living away from home allowances while living at home .... long live cashies .... punch in the snout for Hamhock Hockey

More importantly Pupster, who is Bishops toy Boy?

ET.

Forget what it's name was champion .... diferent to the last one who was a sugar daddy gynocol I suppose

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SP said..
Tax reform in the lb forum...

Fark me..... 4 beers in but I'll have a couple of cents worth..

Firstly. So we have decided the answer to The argument isn't wheter the amount of tax collected by the gov needs to increase?

When did we discuss that,so we accept it?

If yes, which I agree with..

I reckon a lift in consumption tax is good, it is a user pays system, the higher income earner will pay more tax cause he buy dearer things.

You could alter marginal tax rates to help the lower earner, increase the low income offset.

If you want to be taxes less you substutute dearer goods for cheaper goods or do buy it.

They talk about reigning on multi nats, need to be done but tradies are number 1 tax dodgers next to retirees Sal sacrificing into super

from what ive seen people they do work for a forcing them to do it. the purveyors of the tax dodge. they are more culpable


what do you think of them apples .


ps. this is what I heard off and rumours

^^^ no judgement LL.

I have a trade background but moved to an office.. Those Uni girls were irresistable..

I know the rorts, tell people the rorts, charge for it and the rort goes on until some laws and **** are changed..

When that happens I just work around it, it's a moving target..

Pay more tax then you should and you are a muppet..

But the bill of the country is getting higher and it needs to be paid....and every one is going have to suck it up and pay for the self entitled welfare generation of baby boomers..

Either that or we take their super...and make it harder for them to get welfare.

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Macaha said..
We are love a cash we all love it but it really is a form of stealing.

so are you stealing from me when I pay you cash for you're boards

I think the late Kerry Packer summed it up well.

"I am not evading tax in any way, shape or form. Of course, I am minimising my tax.
Anybody in this country who does not minimise his tax wants his head read.
I can tell you as a government that you are not spending it so well that we should be donating extra"

^**

Spot on and let's not forget the first exchange.

Judge
Please state your name?

Packin heat..
Kerry Francis bullimore Packer.

Judge.
How do you appear..

Packing heat..
Reluctantly...

I.e
**** authority... I bet he listens to the dead Kennedy's
Hahahahaha..

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MickPC said...
What really sux is they abolished the carbon tax to allow foreign company's to continue raping our country for very little in return. Then expect to squeeze us even further to help make up the difference while cutting so many of our public services tax is supposedly there for...the buggers tighten the screws on pensions while them themselves receive a disgustingly over privileged retirement plan. No wonder those in the know like Turnbull have their investment returns funneling overseas.

Spot on .

Pollies are about ego and power

I reckon you could count on one hand the number of pollies that have a genuine concern for the population and the economy, they're main concern is their plump packages and their ongoing entitlements, Joe H..what a c*ckhead, spinning that to us while he claims $$ for living in a family home in Canberra because "he was entitled to do so.

GST will rise..they'll quote a big number (+5) then water it down to (2.5) trying to make us think the're doing the right thing by the country.

Don't know about the comment re "self entitled Baby Boomers" SP...BB are the generation that started contributing to Super, and believe me if Centrelink can deduct $1 extra due to income (read drawing from Super) they do.

I think what p*sses peeps off is the blatant waste of Govt spending..the snouts in the trough pollies and weak policies re immigration etc etc.

And yes the "black, money"i.e. cashies, is still rife but at least the GST gets some of it back....and another thing..bloody pollies..a mate of mines 25 yo son was the speech writer for Peter Garrett..a bloody kid telling the pollie what to say....F**k me...

The End of my rant