Hey guys,

Obviously new to the forum but have read the odd thread here and there. I found Ted the Kiwi's posts to be quite good reading.

So, I have been attempting hang tens with little success. Every time I am up on the nose with both feet I just feel there is not enough board underneath me to hold me up. I am about 175cm tall and about 65kg riding a 9'1 with a single fin box where I have fin pushed back as far a possible. I am looking at getting a log, one of the ECS ones as it would be dumb not to buy from my sponsor, however, I am caught between the 9'6 and the 9'2. The extra 4 inches would feel a whole lot heavier but would it enable me to hang ten easier? I can hang five, all toes wrapped over the nose any time I want to. I can get my left foot within about 2 inches of the nose while hanging my other fives toes over but I can never land all ten.

I want to be able to put all ten over the nose before next comp season as I now have to move up to opens and there are actually some ok longboarders about, one of the locals was WA over 40s champ for a few years and he is great to watch. I would like to beat these guys. I reckon I have a fair shot because a) the older blokes don't compete in every comp and hence their points are lower at the end of the year and b) the kid who won opens last year ( a year older than myself ) isn't a longboarder at all and surfs it much like a short board. Thing is, he is the best out us (16 - 20 year olds) on the East Coast and one of the best in the sate by far!

So I guess my question is, am I better to go a big 9'6 and sacrifice the turning ability or am I better to go the 9'2 or if there really little difference?

Also, please do note I have not surfed much lately as it is flat this time of year and I have had exams along with the most persistent flu I have ever had! Maybe I might get it next surf, maybe I won't. Last exam is tomorrow so I will be surfing everyday after that ( and when I am healthy ).

Sorry for such a long winded post but I thought it'd be best to explain my situation in full.

Cheers,
Tom.

welcome to the longroom Tom

sorry mate no advice from me... as I've never had all the toes over the nose of a 9 footer in my life and never will

Mate, if you change your user name to coffee cake you'll be on a winner in here.

At your age you should be able to nose ride a 9'0 no problems. I'm guessing you're not a man child weighing a 100kg. You just need with a bit of volume in the front area, width also helps.

If you have a photo of your board put it up.

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weiry said..

welcome to the longroom Tom

sorry mate no advice from me... as I've never had all the toes over the nose of a 9 footer in my life and never will

Haha cheers. Try toes over a SUP then! Won't even need waves...

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SP said..

Mate, if you change your user name to coffee cake you'll be on a winner in here.

At your age you should be able to nose ride a 9'0 no problems. I'm guessing you're not a man child weighing a 100kg. You just need with a bit of volume in the front area, width also helps.

If you have a photo of your board put it up.

Coffee cake? Never had that one before. Had Tea Cup and Tea Bag, not coffee cake though, I will consider it

Not a man child at all. The smallest out of all the boys my age! Well, in weight anyway. Still got a few with height.

As for volume in the nose, that is probably where it is lacking, and width. So maybe that would help. Currently I have none of my own longboards, just flog Dad's whenever it is smaller but really our family are short boarders. I just seem to be able to ride long boards easily and don't find the transition that bad. Yet to buy my own long boards but here is what I want to go for next http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/80-malibu-Mal-longboard-surfboard-ECS-Boards-E-flex-/271290817519?pt=AU_Sport_Surfing&hash=item3f2a315bef .

I will post some photos tomorrow of the two longboards I have been riding. I have my last exam in the morning so I am off for the night. Check back tomorrow and I will have uploaded photos by about 2 ish.

Cheers for the replies so far guys.

Tom.

Clearly Teacake you are person of great wisdom Welcome to the Greenroom.

Good luck with your exams. As for hanging 10 I am no expert at that one but considering your weight, height n age it should be achievable on a lot of boards. I am definitely a fan of lots of volume in the nose area for this task - but I am a wee bit heavier than you.....a good nose rider type fin will go a long way to hold the tail in when you are up there - what are you riding? And style / technique - have a look at some of the vids that SP posts and study their technique for getting to the nose and holding it there. And probably the most important thing is to actually be riding the nose in the part of the wave that most suits it - although given you are hanging 5 regularly you probably have this sorted already. Good luck and keep us posted with your efforts - we also love pics and vids in the greenroom

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Ted the Kiwi said..

Clearly Teacake you are person of great wisdom Welcome to the Greenroom.

Good luck with your exams. As for hanging 10 I am no expert at that one but considering your weight, height n age it should be achievable on a lot of boards. I am definitely a fan of lots of volume in the nose area for this task - but I am a wee bit heavier than you.....a good nose rider type fin will go a long way to hold the tail in when you are up there - what are you riding? And style / technique - have a look at some of the vids that SP posts and study their technique for getting to the nose and holding it there. And probably the most important thing is to actually be riding the nose in the part of the wave that most suits it - although given you are hanging 5 regularly you probably have this sorted already. Good luck and keep us posted with your efforts - we also love pics and vids in the greenroom

Sounds like LOVE to me

At your weight you could easily stick to a 9'2 . As for getting a full blown log they are the go for noseriding without a doubt but you can compromise by getting a more performance type of noserider that will be much more versatile in comps. A board like this will allow you to get longer noserides and work your way into getting ten toes up there but also allow you to throw it around better than you could on a log. A lot of longboard shapers are doing this style of board. Takayama In the Pink model is a good example. Ron Goddard, who gets on here from time to time, is another who has put up some very nice examples of performance noseriders.

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SP said..

Mate, if you change your user name to coffee cake you'll be on a winner in here.

At your age you should be able to nose ride a 9'0 no problems. I'm guessing you're not a man child weighing a 100kg. You just need with a bit of volume in the front area, width also helps.

If you have a photo of your board put it up.

Here are the Mals I have been riding.









Tom.

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Ted the Kiwi said..

Clearly Teacake you are person of great wisdom Welcome to the Greenroom.

Good luck with your exams. As for hanging 10 I am no expert at that one but considering your weight, height n age it should be achievable on a lot of boards. I am definitely a fan of lots of volume in the nose area for this task - but I am a wee bit heavier than you.....a good nose rider type fin will go a long way to hold the tail in when you are up there - what are you riding? And style / technique - have a look at some of the vids that SP posts and study their technique for getting to the nose and holding it there. And probably the most important thing is to actually be riding the nose in the part of the wave that most suits it - although given you are hanging 5 regularly you probably have this sorted already. Good luck and keep us posted with your efforts - we also love pics and vids in the greenroom

Have not tried different fins at all. Anything that you could recommend trying?

I have my sponsor video if you are really that interested in videos! Making another video soon as well! Here

Cheers,
Tom.

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smh said..

At your weight you could easily stick to a 9'2 . As for getting a full blown log they are the go for noseriding without a doubt but you can compromise by getting a more performance type of noserider that will be much more versatile in comps. A board like this will allow you to get longer noserides and work your way into getting ten toes up there but also allow you to throw it around better than you could on a log. A lot of longboard shapers are doing this style of board. Takayama In the Pink model is a good example. Ron Goddard, who gets on here from time to time, is another who has put up some very nice examples of performance noseriders.

I will take a look! Thanks! Probably still end up getting a log as they just look like so much fun!

Tom.

Best to delete the photo of the mctavish Tom sorry hard core in here don't like the look of them.

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62mac said..

Best to delete the photo of the mctavish Tom sorry hard core in here don't like the look of them.

Not real big on them?

Can't say I ride that on much, bit tippy on the nose.

Tom.

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62mac said..

Best to delete the photo of the mctavish Tom sorry hard core in here don't like the look of them.

bbbahhahaha

I'm no expert but that longboard your riding looks like it has a lot of rocker...that might be your problem...some nice hacks on the shortie too...nice work.

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Teacake said...

62mac said..

Best to delete the photo of the mctavish Tom sorry hard core in here don't like the look of them.

Not real big on them?

Can't say I ride that on much, bit tippy on the nose.

Tom.

You take this forum stuff way too seriously Mac...time to lighten up,get off the computer and go Surf.....

Teacake some on here just buy boards to look pretty,not actually Surf them.

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Tux said..

I'm no expert but that longboard your riding looks like it has a lot of rocker...that might be your problem...some nice hacks on the shortie too...nice work.

Yeah it does for a long board. Compared to the other long boarders on the coast, these have quite a bit of rocker like you say. Another reason for wanting to move towards a log. Those few waves on the shorty towards the end, that was my first day I had surfed that board haha not to mention it is 4 inches bigger than my regular board. Luckily it was some good waves that weekend!

Tom.

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Teacake said...

62mac said..

Best to delete the photo of the mctavish Tom sorry hard core in here don't like the look of them.

Not real big on them?

Can't say I ride that on much, bit tippy on the nose.

Tom.

You take this forum stuff way too seriously Mac...time to lighten up,get off the computer and go Surf.....

Teacake some on here just buy boards to look pretty,not actually Surf them.

I can imagine that. Not to mention some people just make boards to look pretty!

Tom.

I posted a similar question last Jan/Feb about nose riding. I always considered hanging 5 or 10 to be nose riding, but found out basically when your up front. Something your doing well mate, nice vid

From what I've been told, you need a noseriding shape board, with volume & concave in the nose. I can hang 5 on mine now if I'm standing back & really reaching forward with my other foot. But yeah would love to have 10 toes on the nose

Here's a vid of mine from a couple of months after I started longboarding this time last year. Its from SW WA Hope to see some more Tassie vids from ya soon mate

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Teacake said..

chrispy said..

Teacake said...

62mac said..

Best to delete the photo of the mctavish Tom sorry hard core in here don't like the look of them.

Not real big on them?

Can't say I ride that on much, bit tippy on the nose.

Tom.

You take this forum stuff way too seriously Mac...time to lighten up,get off the computer and go Surf.....

Teacake some on here just buy boards to look pretty,not actually Surf them.

I can imagine that. Not to mention some people just make boards to look pretty!

Tom.

You will do well in here Tom

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62mac said..

fk off doggie

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smh said...
At your weight you could easily stick to a 9'2 . As for getting a full blown log they are the go for noseriding without a doubt but you can compromise by getting a more performance type of noserider that will be much more versatile in comps. A board like this will allow you to get longer noserides and work your way into getting ten toes up there but also allow you to throw it around better than you could on a log. A lot of longboard shapers are doing this style of board. Takayama In the Pink model is a good example. Ron Goddard, who gets on here from time to time, is another who has put up some very nice examples of performance noseriders.

Listen to the wise man teacake.. Spot on smh..

Goddards are sooo noice.

Teacake excuse me for asking but what is a State Champion asking for advice on how to hang 10

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62mac said..

Teacake excuse me for asking but what is a State Champion asking for advice on how to hang 10

Fair question! State Junior Champ. Tassie is far less populous than other states as I am sure you are well aware, longboarders are few and far between and so are long board comps. This year I was the oldest (by about 2-3 years) of the competitors in the longboard comps and about the only one that consistently rides a longboard.

I don't use the title to say that I am the best by any means, I simply enjoy longboarding and use it as a way to get free stuff for myself (a poor college student) haha. Heck, two years ago I despised everything to do with comps, the crowds it brings to a place where 15 is considered crowded, the 'coolness' of it all. Now I just see it as an excuse to surf all weekend and get some prizes for surfing :D

But, I still enjoy representing my sponsors in Tassie and that title helps a lot! Again though, the standard of surfing here in Tassie is far lower than that of the mainland. Still, for a company to say that they have a state champ riding for them is good, they don't have to say I am from Tassie and that I am nowhere near as good as others, I still am state champ to the everyday person who knows nothing of comps! That's the best part of it!

A most amusing situation I must say :D

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McHenry said..

Goddards are sooo noice.

If I knew what a Goddard was I would probably agree!

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MickPC said..

I posted a similar question last Jan/Feb about nose riding. I always considered hanging 5 or 10 to be nose riding, but found out basically when your up front. Something your doing well mate, nice vid

From what I've been told, you need a noseriding shape board, with volume & concave in the nose. I can hang 5 on mine now if I'm standing back & really reaching forward with my other foot. But yeah would love to have 10 toes on the nose

Here's a vid of mine from a couple of months after I started longboarding this time last year. Its from SW WA Hope to see some more Tassie vids from ya soon mate

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Cheers mate.

Looks like a fun wave! Reminds me of Red Bluff a bit!

Tom.

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SP said..

smh said...
At your weight you could easily stick to a 9'2 . As for getting a full blown log they are the go for noseriding without a doubt but you can compromise by getting a more performance type of noserider that will be much more versatile in comps. A board like this will allow you to get longer noserides and work your way into getting ten toes up there but also allow you to throw it around better than you could on a log. A lot of longboard shapers are doing this style of board. Takayama In the Pink model is a good example. Ron Goddard, who gets on here from time to time, is another who has put up some very nice examples of performance noseriders.

Listen to the wise man teacake.. Spot on smh..

One of the local guys is selling an old mal of his, he shapes his own boards and has been in comps for year. I think the one he is selling is a performance nose rider so I may take a look at that due to the reasons you have mentioned! Would be great to throw it around while being able to stand right on the nose on the same wave!

Cheers,
Tom.

Thanks for the reply Teacake.


And to all the red flags get fked the lot of you.

Too funny Chrispy's sheep

Take what you can from here Teacake, you will find there is a select group here who like to hijack every thread on the forum, you will get the drift pretty quick.

For mine, I'm no where near getting a 10, 5's yep but every advance Ive made its been watching video and trying to replicate it.

SP puts up some ripper vids so watch and learn there.

From what Ive read the comps back in the day considered a noseride if you were in the front 18" of the board, if you look at a lot old vids they had a resin colour change about that mark. Good luck.