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Longboards, the other type.

Created by vanders1 vanders1  > 9 months ago, 6 Apr 2013
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vanders1
vanders1

QLD

3809 posts

6 Apr 2013 2:06pm
Thought I'd start a new topic to discuss all things 4 wheeled.

So yesterday I thought I'd head back into Boardshop Australia to pick up a new helmet & while in there got talking to Tony about the issues I'd been having with wheel bite on the new LBL Da Glide, we tried more risers, stiffer bushings & after a test run in the carpark I established we hadn't solved the problem after a forced tuck & two rolls after yet another wheel bite.

Rule #1 - Don't skate in bare feet.



Then he suggested we try some Randal RII 180's, this gave better efficiency in bushing performance, we also added another 1/2" riser making 1" in total, on testing this setup which also allowed for tighter turns the wheels were still pretty close to the deck so the decision was made to drop in wheel size, we decided on Tunnel Krakatoa's in 70mm. This setup now works well with no chance of biting but I'm thinking of dropping one of the risers & grinding some wheel cut-outs into the deck to compensate. It just feels a little high off the tar now, maybe I'll get used to it.

I will say the guys at Boardshop Australia were fantastic to deal with, they swapped trucks over at no cost & really went out of their way to help solve the issue, we spent nearly 2 hours going through stuff. A big thanks to Chrispy too for his advice & guidance through the whole process.







chrispychru
chrispychru

QLD

7932 posts

6 Apr 2013 2:15pm
at least you had a BRAIN BUCKET on...toes heal...heads dont
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

6 Apr 2013 12:27pm
Mate that is a deeper shade of purple that sucker nice work with the rest though
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

6 Apr 2013 2:33pm
Man that toe looks sore

I played with mine also today,first I garbed another set of risers,the shop had no two inch bolts so off to the hardware,at first I doubled the risers, lookedthen changed the rubbers back to the orange took it for spin and wheel bit,so I tightened and kept adjusting until I figured they will not work so back to the harder blacks,no wheel bit.

Then I took one set of risers off and added the wedged risers with a standard set,seems to work ok at this stage.

SP
SP

SP

10982 posts

6 Apr 2013 3:20pm
I Went for a roll before and found 3ks of cycle track that is a down hill concrete path, pushed twice at the top and that was it....
vanders1
vanders1

QLD

3809 posts

6 Apr 2013 5:52pm
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SP said...
I Went for a roll before and found 3ks of cycle track that is a down hill concrete path, pushed twice at the top and that was it....



Good work on that find, it's funny now everywhere I go I'm looking for possible skate spots.
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

6 Apr 2013 7:24pm
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SP said...
I Went for a roll before and found 3ks of cycle track that is a down hill concrete path, pushed twice at the top and that was it....



is this a secret spot or not? Please feel free to post SP My Brazo neighbour would be thrilled to learn...he has more downhill skateboards than surfboards and he has lots of those
McHenry
McHenry

SA

1739 posts

6 Apr 2013 6:58pm
Can't go wrong with Randals
MichaelR
MichaelR

NSW

862 posts

6 Apr 2013 8:49pm
What I find amazing is that they sold you a board with wheel bite?

The other option is to take a little of the timber out from under the board, just where the wheel is scrubbing. Easy, and then you don't have to change trucks or wheels.

For mine, I make sure the wheel bite is solved at the truck drilling stage.

Hope your toe heals quick! Not much you can do with that one.....
kadilak
kadilak

QLD

605 posts

6 Apr 2013 7:51pm


Good street for skateboarding?
SP
SP

SP

10982 posts

7 Apr 2013 7:40am
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Ted the Kiwi said...
SP said...
I Went for a roll before and found 3ks of cycle track that is a down hill concrete path, pushed twice at the top and that was it....



is this a secret spot or not? Please feel free to post SP My Brazo neighbour would be thrilled to learn...he has more downhill skateboards than surfboards and he has lots of those


Not at all, it's called the fernleigh track, it's a bicycle track from Adamstown to Belmont it runs where the old train line used to be. It's not super steep but steep enough to carve without pushing.

Link is
www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/1869009

That toe looks painful Vanders
stuk
stuk

NSW

894 posts

7 Apr 2013 4:31pm
SP with all the controversy about the Fernleigh track and the conflict between walkers and cyclists, you might become the next front page news sensation.

I can see it now "Longboarder slaloms pensioners".
weiry
weiry

QLD

5396 posts

7 Apr 2013 5:22pm
why is their an issue with bite, are you boys riding them like short boards or are they that low or wide deck the prob.
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

7 Apr 2013 3:25pm
weiry
weiry

QLD

5396 posts

7 Apr 2013 5:30pm
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kadilak said...


Good street for skateboarding?


Kadie WTF was that
am i going blind
people taking photos of the invisible man.
2min of my life gone
thats right i watched it twice
Simondo
Simondo

VIC

8024 posts

7 Apr 2013 6:29pm
There's no cut-away to help prevent the bite.

My little 32 inch Ala Moana has 30 inch axel to axel spacing. So technically it is a midlength I guess!

But I am shopping around for a cheap Longboard... 40 inch plus. But many circa 42 inch decks have roughly 34 inch axel spacing...
Simondo
Simondo

VIC

8024 posts

7 Apr 2013 6:32pm
Double King Pins... Makes for a tighter turn circle. Suits a shorter wheel base like this board.

Simondo
Simondo

VIC

8024 posts

7 Apr 2013 6:34pm
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

7 Apr 2013 4:37pm
I was hoping a car would run over your camera


The boards are wide,the wheels are wide and the boy's are wide
Simondo
Simondo

VIC

8024 posts

7 Apr 2013 7:38pm
Funny Mac! It was actually on the iPhone4. So you could also say, "I was hoping a car would run over the phone!
Simondo
Simondo

VIC

8024 posts

7 Apr 2013 7:41pm
Vanders, how is the toe? I sprained the one next to my big toe, back in 2011... Like New Years Day... roughly 2+ years ago. Only just getting back to 100% now!
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

7 Apr 2013 5:42pm
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Simondo said...
Double King Pins... Makes for a tighter turn circle. Suits a shorter wheel base like this board.




Simondo how high are your risers
Simondo
Simondo

VIC

8024 posts

7 Apr 2013 8:04pm
Seem to be bang on 1/2 inch risers, but the due to the double kingpin configuration (rare configuration).

Centerline Axel is about 3 inches from the underside of the deck. Bottom of the wheel is about 4"3/8 from underside of deck.

Top of Deck is 5" off the ground, and up to 5"1/4 at edges, with subtle concaves in deck.
Simondo
Simondo

VIC

8024 posts

7 Apr 2013 8:05pm
PS - no wheel bite... physically impossible due to the configurations.
Simondo
Simondo

VIC

8024 posts

7 Apr 2013 8:08pm




If I was shaping a deck, these flyers should be 2 inches further back, to give your heel & toes more support, but still follow the same final pin design, to avoid wheel bite.
weiry
weiry

QLD

5396 posts

7 Apr 2013 8:24pm
thats all fine simondo if you want to ride like you were, for cruising and board walking that board is to short and thin.

Mac its the same reason you have a quiver different boards for differend styles and conditions.
to me the very long skateboards are like 12footers. i wouldn't ride a 12 footer like simondo was riding that skateboard.
Just saying
chrispychru
chrispychru

QLD

7932 posts

7 Apr 2013 8:26pm
Grom burn that piece off ****mac you summed it up. You and vanders are big muscley pie eaters. I have solved the problem and will fix it fpr you tues
weiry
weiry

QLD

5396 posts

7 Apr 2013 8:29pm
Mac your deck looks firm enough have you tried walking it yet.
62mac
62mac

WA

24860 posts

7 Apr 2013 6:33pm
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weiry said...
Mac your deck looks firm enough have you tried walking it yet.


First run today mate after 28 years,so took it easy but its stiff and some walking is on the cards.
chrispychru
chrispychru

QLD

7932 posts

7 Apr 2013 8:36pm
Weiry they are just getting their balance atm. But the next stage will be a breeze for them. And what you said was on the money abot quiver
vanders1
vanders1

QLD

3809 posts

7 Apr 2013 8:43pm
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Simondo said...
Vanders, how is the toe? I sprained the one next to my big toe, back in 2011... Like New Years Day... roughly 2+ years ago. Only just getting back to 100% now!


Swelling has gone down, but I did kick some rocks with it at LM today, didn't tickle that's for sure.
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