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It's always pumping at Shredville

Created by obct obct  > 9 months ago, 5 Apr 2014
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obct
obct

NSW

3487 posts

5 Apr 2014 3:16pm
Surfed there for 3 hours solid this morning, absolutely killed it.

So where is this place called Shredville

No where, I made it up, but what if it did exist Would the Shredville locals get upset at me naming their sacred break Giving away the secret location of Nirvana!

Ever since one of the boys mentioned a break that he surfed at some months ago, and got chipped for doing so, I've been wondering, is it a good thing to name a spot? or is it a bad thing?

What are the repercussions? Do loose lips sink banks, or is it all just a wank?

Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

5 Apr 2014 2:40pm
Only if Shedville was in WA otherwise all will be forgiven.

Obct are you OK mate
CrossStep
CrossStep

SA

210 posts

5 Apr 2014 3:23pm
It would be nice to think that “Spox X” still exists. Lets keep the spirit of adventure alive for a bit longer, eh!
chrispy
chrispy

WA

9675 posts

5 Apr 2014 1:59pm
I think cross step summed it up nicely.
In my where did I surf reports,I'm not too fussed as where I live is far from a secret. As in everyone knows the points,and on my beachies I will never say where I am,as the banks vary so much from day to day and for different tides,so good luck if your reading.

It is a hard one as the likes of swellnotclosetobeingright and coastalwatchfromthedreamsornightmaresisleepwith are always so wrong, that I do enjoy a locals report on what they surfed. I love Tux and grom man's reports,I especially love smh more for sentimental reasons,yet even smh annoyed someone. I'm sitting on the fence now

thePup
thePup

13831 posts

5 Apr 2014 5:11pm
mmmmm yeah well I could say something - but hey whats it worth , some dudes have different names for them anyways
asea
asea

QLD

5544 posts

5 Apr 2014 7:27pm
hmm wake up in morning look at wind know the tides check a few places out who knows where I end up
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

5 Apr 2014 5:35pm
fark look ... hard on got smashed by the WA mafia
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

5 Apr 2014 8:36pm
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obct said..

What are the repercussions? Do loose lips sink banks, or is it all just a wank?



My approach to this is that I never name a spot that is not well known or one that I surf regularly or one that I think will be good and am hoping to be surfing the next day. I used to do a surf report for Realsurf when I lived in Manly many years ago. It is a well known spot and whatever I said would not really ruin it for anyone else - its one of the busiest beaches in Australia, if not the world. There were also 4 other people doing them. I never did the report though until I had come in or knew that I was not surfing that day. I tried not too give too much away - but the reality is my actions probably did nothing to increase or decrease the crowd. I did it because I know the owner Don and he is a top bloke. Would I do a surf report where I live now - no farrrken way

Repercussions are potentially huge if you live somewhere other than your spot ob. Anywhere where there is a crowded population the numbers in the water are high. Surfers are very similar to sheep in many respects and just follow the crowd - the majority these days tend to not be able to make a decision for themselves. There is a spot I mostly surf and often I will take the 2nd best peak on the beach if first in the water as I know that the next lot that arrive will paddle out where I am - then I just paddle down to where I really wanted to be initially. Its amazing how often this strategy works for me - probably 80 - 90% of the time!! Human nature is amazing sometimes

What really strikes me though is that you only have to drive 30mins from a large population base and you will get it pretty much uncrowded. Sometimes even less. The majority of surfers these days, in my opinion, really have no idea about the influence of tide, wind and swell direction. Its amazing. When I started surfing we had to learn to read synoptic charts and listen in to the marine forecast at 5am to get an update. These days its handed to most on a plate and because of this they never really understand the drivers. They never learnt from first principles what drives the waves in their local environment.

Now as for people on mob phones calling all their mates to tell them that the surf is uncrowded and pumping whilst I am putting my wettie on is the time that I wish that I was a martial arts expert and unafraid of the law and its consequences. This is the thing that annoys me the most !!!!!

I never even let on about new banks on the beaches when I yarn to fellas in the carpark - where did you end up yesterday ? I often respond that I just went home or to work. Would never let on that one of the beaches close by has an unreal bank on the outgoing tide - as I want it to myself the next morning. Simple stuff - but then I do not live on the northern beaches anymore
weiry
weiry

QLD

5396 posts

5 Apr 2014 7:42pm
there is no secret spots FFS
anyone with half a brain and google maps can find any break in OZ.
the thing is when you post that you got A frame peaks all to yourself at spot #&^%@%#&
you will have all this interest next day.
as for calling breaks differant names i dont get it... and i dont think the locals will
and why not just post... i had a farkn blast at a break today and just leave it at that ....some guys are like old moles
and cant shut their pie holes. a bit like fisherman
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

5 Apr 2014 5:45pm
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weiry said..

there is no secret spots FFS
anyone with half a brain and google maps can find any break in OZ.
the thing is when you post that you got A frame peaks all to yourself at spot #&^%@%#&
you will have all this interest next day.
as for calling breaks differant names i dont get it... and i dont think the locals will
and why not just post... i had a farkn blast at a break today and just leave it at that ....some guys are like old moles
and cant shut their pie holes. a bit like fisherman


ppppffffffffffttttt What the fark was that Kraus
weiry
weiry

QLD

5396 posts

5 Apr 2014 7:54pm
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thePup said..

weiry said..

there is no secret spots FFS
anyone with half a brain and google maps can find any break in OZ.
the thing is when you post that you got A frame peaks all to yourself at spot #&^%@%#&
you will have all this interest next day.
as for calling breaks differant names i dont get it... and i dont think the locals will
and why not just post... i had a farkn blast at a break today and just leave it at that ....some guys are like old moles
and cant shut their pie holes. a bit like fisherman


ppppffffffffffttttt What the fark was that Kraus


like ted said they get on the phone like an old mole pup
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

5 Apr 2014 5:56pm
You're a funny farker Adolph
obct
obct

NSW

3487 posts

5 Apr 2014 9:30pm
well, I've thought about it often and I'm of two minds, yes, I think it's a wank, mostly because keeping secrets can ruin a good road trip story;

"we surfed a northern point all morning, then went and had the best bacon and eggs EVAR, at a local cafe"

I've lost interest, but if the point and the cafe are named, I'm interested, and there really is no such thing as secret a spot, just go to Wannasurf and you can search for any break regardless of the name, and there's no such thing as a secret bank, unless you are the invisible man and you ride an invisible surfboard .

And the unwanted crowd argument just does not stack up, lets say someone mentions a good wave is to be had at Shredville Point and it's a well known fact that Shredville is about 50Kilks north of Kempsey on the far north coast of NSW.

Someone is sitting in front of their computer in Warrnambool Victoria and reads it, immediately packs their bag and heads up for a surf just to stuff up the local boys. It ain't gunna happen.

Everyone within a 1 hour radius of Shreadville already knows it can be a good break on the right day, and not every day is the right day. So regardless of what all the locals within 10 minutes of the break say, on a good day there will be big crowds at Shredville point and all of them will be saying, "F***you mate, I'm a local too".

I think we often may keep secrets for another reason, I know I do, that's because I like a certain degree of anonymity, I don't like to be recognized by someone who knows me from a public forum, but I don't know them from Adam.

That's because the person I am on the forum may not be the person I always am in real life, a forum is often a pretend world of bluff, bravado and BS that's sometimes taken too seriously, if I want facts, I go to snoops or wikipedia. Advice is the most you will get from a forum (i still vividly recall the best advice I ever got on this forum was to stop trying to learn to surf a long board with the side fins installed, it immediately doubled my wave count).

So for me, I'm sitting on the fence again, if it's local, keep it quiet, when you travel, keep it interesting, but in either case, I don't think it's because revealing the spot will ruin the secret.



weiry
weiry

QLD

5396 posts

5 Apr 2014 8:38pm
god help the person that gives up LM
climber
climber

NSW

1125 posts

5 Apr 2014 9:46pm
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weiry said..

god help the person that gives up LM


fark thats gold....
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

5 Apr 2014 9:49pm
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obct said..

And the unwanted crowd argument just does not stack up, lets say someone mentions a good wave is to be had at Shredville Point and it's a well known fact that Shredville is about 50Kilks north of Kempsey on the far north coast of NSW.

Someone is sitting in front of their computer in Warrnambool Victoria and reads it, immediately packs their bag and heads up for a surf just to stuff up the local boys. It ain't gunna happen.

Everyone within a 1 hour radius of Shreadville already knows it can be a good break on the right day


I disagree on both off these points ob.

The first one is simply because I often will jump in the car if the work situation permits and drive several hours north for a long right hand point break. I know someone there and they give me an insight into what its like relative to my previous thoughts - this either tells me to stay home or that my thoughts were on the money and I hit the road. When I lived in Manly I would drive to Sandon as my day trip when I thought it was on. I really miss that place but its just too far now.

The second one - I totally disagree with this. Lots of people think they know but really they do not and few are willing to back their judgement. Some will drive to see what its like even when its crap - but few will not bother because they know it will be crap and not worth it. I honestly believe that most people really do not know what makes it great that day - they are told and decide from there.



thePup
thePup

13831 posts

5 Apr 2014 7:57pm
I reckon do the drive .... forecasts are like Boat shoes sometimes ... just farking wrong
obct
obct

NSW

3487 posts

6 Apr 2014 3:49am
You're pretty exceptional in the way you will chase a wave Ted, not just in Oz, but all over the world, and people keeping secret spots isn't really a problem for you, but it can make surfing a very boring subject if threads come to a dead end of silence.

Moving on, I've even stopped reading the "where did you surf today" thread because it contains everything other than what the name implies.

That may be why some of our most popular threads have little or nothing to do with surfing, we have nothing else to talk about, it's a secret.

Each season we have an NRL thread that's always near the top of the page, rivalled only by our seasonal AFL thread.

Our most popular thread by far is one where we do nothing other than say " good morning" to one another

And when we try to speak of a something surfing related in terms of a trip away, we're criticised for over sharing, as per a recent post Vanders and I did on a weekend trip to woopi,

I'm a big believer in giving the people what they want, and it looks like what we want is, NRL, AFL , saying good morning to each other, and keeping surfing a secret that's probably because a common interest, surfing, draws us together but other common interests keep us together because surfing alone not strong enough to bind us on its own.



thePup
thePup

13831 posts

6 Apr 2014 4:00am
hmmmmmmm well I love you brother Obct does that count for anything
Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

6 Apr 2014 6:06am
Good morning footy fans I'm up early to do a road trip to Shredville thanks for the tip obct see you there

Weiry dead set last sunday I ripped the bags out of everything.yesterday it just ripped me
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