Hey guys, looking at a 9'4 all rounder for my old man.

the one we are looking at has a 4 and 6 oz deck and a 6 oz bottom.

Is that light for a longboard? or average?

i would have thought it would have more glass than that

sounds about average to me, any less and it will not last, any more too heavy.

I would say thats light for a LB...my short boards are 6x4x6 and guns are 6x6x6

its average

ok cheers guys. just didnt want it too light and non durable..

What are the advantages of glassing with a heavier weight?

I am thinking of a 9'4 x 23 x 3 and want to know if heavier will be better for cruising?

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McHenry said...
What are the advantages of glassing with a heavier weight?

I am thinking of a 9'4 x 23 x 3 and want to know if heavier will be better for cruising?

go HEAVY, seriously its like a whole new level of longboarding. If you want cruising then heavy is the way to go

i do all my boards in 3 x 8 ounce deck 6+8 ounce bottom, the cruising difference and wave catching ability is amazing, you will make sections you never thought possible.

the glide and feel is like nothing u have ever felt

further to this, there was a guy at byron who would catch waves and be up and riding before anyone else, also he would be cruising along on a 10cm wave at times.

i found out he was riding a 9'1 board and couldnt figure out why he was able to catch anything and everything, until i picked it up

he had it glassed 3x8 ounce on the deck and 3x8 ounce on the bottom

may be over kill yes, but when you would see what this guy could catch you wouldnt hesitate having a board like his

Well I'm getting a 20: x 20x20 full Kevlar for the goldy points

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BigSpazz said...
further to this, there was a guy at byron who would catch waves and be up and riding before anyone else, also he would be cruising along on a 10cm wave at times.

i found out he was riding a 9'1 board and couldnt figure out why he was able to catch anything and everything, until i picked it up

he had it glassed 3x8 ounce on the deck and 3x8 ounce on the bottom

may be over kill yes, but when you would see what this guy could catch you wouldnt hesitate having a board like his

totally agree heavy square tail for pure glide.

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McHenry said...
What are the advantages of glassing with a heavier weight?

I am thinking of a 9'4 x 23 x 3 and want to know if heavier will be better for cruising?

go HEAVY, seriously its like a whole new level of longboarding. If you want cruising then heavy is the way to go

i do all my boards in 3 x 8 ounce deck 6+8 ounce bottom, the cruising difference and wave catching ability is amazing, you will make sections you never thought possible.

the glide and feel is like nothing u have ever felt

Taking your advise bigspazz, now just need to decide on rocker.

If you want cruise and easy glide go for a flatter rocker.

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62mac said...
If you want cruise and easy glide go for a flatter rocker.

this too, definitely a must

Alright sounds good 9'4 x 23 x 3 with a flat rocker and 3 x 8 ounce deck and 6 + 8 ounce bottom, square tail single fin. Thinking redline planshape.

Redline has got the rocker your after,not too flat like a true log but perfect for you imo.

If I could only see one in the flesh all would be good. No worries, thanks for your help boys. Itll either be a 9'4 or 9'6 should the dims be the same for both sizes??

**** the 9'3 if you want a cruiser go for something 10+

how much do u weigh? and would you consider urself a strong paddler?

I weigh 82kgs, nah I am not a very strong paddler. A friend of mine is shaping it and its going through the machine first and he thinks that 9'4 is the biggest they can get in the machine. If not I would go a 9'6, I am not a great surfer so 10 footer may be a bit big.

yer go a 9'4 that will be plenty. Get 2x8 ounce on the deck and 6+8 on the bottom

that will be enough

sheesh.. now im thinking we need more glass.

Sham- Sorry we hijacked the thread.

Just was interested in a heavier glass board and then this thread came up...perfect!

Anyone have any thoughts on different plan shapes other than the redline??

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McHenry said...
Sham- Sorry we hijacked the thread.

Just was interested in a heavier glass board and then this thread came up...perfect!

Anyone have any thoughts on different plan shapes other than the redline??

i have a redline, a 12ft redline square tail and its 45 pounds with alot of glass on it

its a very point and shoot board, its all about the glide with this board. Noseriding i find it one of my hardest boards to do so but as for a lazy surf and just wanting lots of waves and a smile on my face when i get out then a redline is perfect for it

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McHenry said...
Sham- Sorry we hijacked the thread.

Just was interested in a heavier glass board and then this thread came up...perfect!

Anyone have any thoughts on different plan shapes other than the redline??

i have a redline, a 12ft redline square tail and its 45 pounds with alot of glass on it

its a very point and shoot board, its all about the glide with this board. Noseriding i find it one of my hardest boards to do so but as for a lazy surf and just wanting lots of waves and a smile on my face when i get out then a redline is perfect for it

i also surfed a 9'6 redline and it found it to catch and glide alot more than my 9'6 fireball

Neo looks like, I do like the redline.

Once I get it pictures will be posted!!

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McHenry said...
What are the advantages of glassing with a heavier weight?

I am thinking of a 9'4 x 23 x 3 and want to know if heavier will be better for cruising?

Something like that I would not be scared to go to eight ounce volan. Traditional surfing, my biggest gripe is with boards that are too light. You just don't get the momentum you need to set up real deep nose rides.

For the OP, if your dad is over going vertical 6 x 6 x 6 with a 4 deck patch is fine and would look extra stylish with a tint and finish coat.

With heavier boards it is also worth baring concaves in the tail and sticking with a traditional vee. This way you get a real nice rail to rail transition. Otherwise, it is like putting concaves on a displacement hull boat. Other than maybe a mild concave through the nose, they don't work.

Going heavy, want something to cruise on and chill out. Isnt that what longboarding is all about....

Taking your advice Bigspazz, getting excited now.

you guys definitely have me thinking we need more weight!

Old man will be a pretty weak paddler and just wants to catch waves and cruise..

thing to keep in mind with heavier boards is they do take 2-4 strokes to get going! but once you are going there aint much stopping you

also if you can grab an old mal to try out(easier said than done i know) but they will give you the idea of the glide, they may be a dog to manoveur, but u will get the idea of what the glide is all about. Typically Old mals were glassed in 2 layers of 10 - 12 ounce glass so they are nice and heavy

YESSSS TO CATCHING WAVES AND CRUISING!!

Lifes too short to worry about getting all hyperactive in the water.

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thing to keep in mind with heavier boards is they do take 2-4 strokes to get going! but once you are going there aint much stopping you

also if you can grab an old mal to try out(easier said than done i know) but they will give you the idea of the glide, they may be a dog to manoveur, but u will get the idea of what the glide is all about. Typically Old mals were glassed in 2 layers of 10 - 12 ounce glass so they are nice and heavy

Ha ha, been riding my 66 Gordon & Woods in a nice 2-3' groundswell on a little right for nearly four hours today. Pure bliss with lots of gouging carves and levitating tip time. Just hope I have my mojo flowing for this weekends Magoo! .

Better get off the net and have a look if this sly little left is pumping; bye all!