Sorry to hear that linter long time no see, give us some time the boys will find more than one move.

You have come to right the place.
Now go buy a new board, it has to be bigger than 10ft,12 ft would be best, then you just need to pop up and throw your hands in the air like you are making pizzas....most importantly, you must stand in the one spot, less foot movement the better...

I have learnt so much in here

Niiiice board Sandsy,I like that

Have you seen this?

Don't really know if it would be of any help

www.outsideonline.com/1922561/learning-surf-without-feeling

chrispy said..
You have come to right the place.
Now go buy a new board, it has to be bigger than 10ft,12 ft would be best, then you just need to pop up and throw your hands in the air like you are making pizzas....most importantly, you must stand in the one spot, less foot movement the better...

I have learnt so much in here

Surf on Linter - do what you can but make sure you enjoy the hell out of every single fraction of a second when you do it mate

linter said..

obct said..
Have you seen this?

Don't really know if it would be of any help

www.outsideonline.com/1922561/learning-surf-without-feeling

Well, not only have I read it, i wrote it. Yup, I've been "forced" to ride a SUP but I still identify with longboarding more than SUPping. Since that piece came out, wingnut's MS has stayed in remission while my case of CIDP has found a way to progress faster than I'd like. Here's one of my few pretty successful toes-on-the-nose SUP rides from last summer:

Right now, I have days where I can't even pop up from kneeling to stand on the board, which leads to an hour or so of frustration in the water before I get out, with lots of yelling and cussing involved. whatta mess.

Thanks all for your advice so far. I appreciate it, and look forward to any more thoughts and videos you might care to share.

linter aka (now that I've blown my cover) erik

Not seen many sups that nose ride that well. Most of them are dogs to ride. Keep getting wet! Enjoy every wave.
He who smiles the most wins!!

chrispy said..
You have come to right the place.
Now go buy a new board, it has to be bigger than 10ft,12 ft would be best, then you just need to pop up and throw your hands in the air like you are making pizzas....most importantly, you must stand in the one spot, less foot movement the better...

I have learnt so much in here

In your top 5 posts ever easily

I know of no vids that show what I'm talking about, but the idea of the feet together stance just prior to a cutback, comes from not being able to do the things that good longboarders can do. About 4 years ago, I was in the parking lot above Nth Avalon on a sunny day watching a well known longboarder taking everything that was on offer, I did not want to go out because I knew there would be nothing for me.

He had a certain style on take off that a lot of LBs use, he gets an early entry, lifts his torso of the board, surveys the surroundings, pops to his feet, and while they're still close together, throws one foot back, knees slightly bent, leans into a turn and snaps the nose around like it's the tip of a whip, goes bolt upright and trims.

I know I could never do it, pop up too slow, and I'm way too tall to keep my centre of balance right. But it did inspire me to try something similar once I'm up on the board, and only for the cutbacks, not the forehand turns. I even started doing it within a half an hour of watching him, and I kind of think that he may have looked at me doing it. I'd like to think he thought it was my style rather than something he inspired.

The limp arms are just something that appeals to me from still photos, oddly, one of those people is Mark Richards, his nick name was "the wounded Seagull" because of his outlandish arm movements, but somewhere there's a pic of him leaning into forehand with his back dead straight and both arms hanging limp in front of him, I really liked the pic. The second person was one of my favourite lonboarders, Leah Dawson, there's a few pic of her doing it on both the forehand and on cutbacks and to me it just looks good because it's so nonchalant

The most interesting thing you say is " brain is no longer all that connected to my legs and feet" which is almost the identical phrase that I used when I tried to go back to surfing about 7 years ago and nothing would work. The pop up has never, and will never work for me, my left knee is beyond help, but the communication between brain and feet was something that I may be able to do something about.

I made a couple of balance boards and started using them for around 10 minutes a night, and within a week, things improved, I kept that up for around 2 months before I stopped needing to use them and only drag them out when I've been out of the water for 2 or 3 weeks.

linter said..

obct said..

The feet together stance you mentioned is something I like, because it looks unnatural, and that's what makes it look good, and because it's something I can sometimes do, I do it whenever I can, but there's a couple of upsides to it. If you're doing it in the correct position on the board, you can throw just one foot back to the tail to make what looks like a classy turn. Now think about what that classy turn would need if you didn't have your feet together! It would need you to shuffle or step backwards so you could get your back foot on the tail. That's 1 or 2 additional movements to make the turn.

Of course a lot will depend on how far back you can throw your leg, because if you start from too far back, you're risking a stall, if you start from too far forward, you're risking not having your back foot over the fin when you throw it back. But if you do get all your ducks lined up, it does make for a beautiful feeling, and one would hope, a beautiful look.

Roller coasters, on a knee to waste high face look good, but they look even better with the feet together, but 2 things stand out, you really need to get the trim nailed, and they look so much more stylish with dead arms, once again, because that's unnatural .

This means that everything must happen from the waste down, the upper body is just needed for centering, I found that spending a lot of time on a balance board help me to stop flaying my arms around.

I guess my last styling tip would be the good old soul arch, I have a problem with them, they look great when they've done unintentionally, but they look pretentious when done on purpose..

Such a great post and so helpful. Thank you. And, btw, do you know of any good online vids that show exactly what you're talking about?

Another of my problems is that my brain is no longer all that connected to my legs and feet. I'll pull my feet together, only to look down and see that they've only moved an inch or two from where they were before, if that. a bit ago, on dry land, i spent a lot of time going from paddle stance, to surfer stance, to feet together stance. got really really good at it ... on dry land. once i'm in the water, my brain has so many other variables to deal with that any foot-movement skills i learned, fly right out the f'ing window.

But, I will persist and hopefully I will prevail.

Sandsy1: it's a noseriding-specific sup made by jimmy lewis, 10'1 in length. has minimal nose rocker and tons of tail rocker. i've got an 11" fin in that sucker. i love the board so much that i now own three of them, exactly the same, in case one or two of them should need to undergo repairs.

rodriquez: thanks! it's the best noseride i've ever had and after it was done, i said to myself, you're on a roll now! unfortunately, that roll peaked right then and there. ugh.

Is that the Black and Blue? Mate you were on fire, not easy to do on a sup!

Sandsy1: yup, it's the B and B, the only noseriding-specific board on the sup market that i know of. and thanks for the compliment on the video. it's the best noseride i've ever gotten. i remember afterwards thinking to myself, i can now die a happy man. wish i hadn't had that thought.

sp: awesome. that's what i'm talkin about!

obct: thanks for your further thoughts and descriptions. i can see the turn you're talking about, because there's guys around here that do it too. bears further study. yup, i love mr's gull thing too. (as an aside: i once went on a surfing trip with him and a few other guys to the maldives. he was super nice and friendly. one day in the water, it was just him and me. at one point, he started calling me into waves that should have been his. and i can tell you, there's nothing like being called into a wave by mr.)