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Chiro vs Physio vs Massage vs Beer

Created by MickPC MickPC  > 9 months ago, 8 Dec 2013
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MickPC
MickPC

8266 posts

8 Dec 2013 3:53pm
Currently self medicating with beer at the moment to dull the pain in my right shoulder blade which has flared up again. I saw the chiro on Friday & although he cracked one area of vertebrae about c3/c4, he commented the problem was mainly due to tight muscles. I said, oh I probably should have gone for a massage then. he was like, no you've come to the right place & I thought, sure...good for your biz.....But I left unsatisfied, sometimes I reckon he does well clicking things into place, but I've had massages where they do that plus massage knots in your muscles. Considering its $59 for the chiro & about the same for a massage, I sometimes think I should alternate between the two more frequently, rather than mainly seeing the chiro.

I have never seen a physio so cannot comment...beer can work wonders, but the current required dosage to dull the pain is not so great the next day.....we put a lot of stress on our bodies when the adrenalin's kicking through our system & I don't know about you guys but the last couple of years I've been getting neck, shoulder & back pains more frequently. I'm sure I'm not the only one, so wondering what you guys do when your body starts giving you grief
chrispy
chrispy

WA

9675 posts

8 Dec 2013 4:04pm
massage works wonders,even without the happy ending. im a bit against chiros as they have always given me more problems than what i have started out with. find a physio who specialises in rehab pilates and you will end up way better. not just in the now,but in the future. pilates has been the best thing i have done for my body ever...well since i hopped on a .........gulp 666
MickPC
MickPC

8266 posts

8 Dec 2013 4:41pm
lol happy ending...gulp .....Funny you should say that about the chiro coz I've had more probs since I've been to a chiro, but I could be blaming the chicken for the egg or something... Gonna try the massage, but pilates eh. Havn't heard mention of that for a few years. I wonder if there's much diff to yoga, missus always does that & I've been meaning to get into it too. I'm a lazy bugger out of the water which is probably 1/2 my problem. But then I surf 4 or 5 days a week & have always considered surfing to be the ultimate workout. Even a 666 gives you a fairly good workout imo & gets you out there in otherwise non surfable conditions.
smh
smh

smh

NSW

7269 posts

8 Dec 2013 7:56pm
Physio for sure I reckon. Osteopaths are good too if you get a good one . At the end of the day its about the work you put in yourself in managing the weak spots. Pilates is really good. I've been doing that for nearly 5 years now and do it most days. Do heaps of planks face down and on the sides. Been doing 1-2 hour flat water 666 paddles as well and it all helps. Beer works well too
Simondo
Simondo

VIC

8024 posts

8 Dec 2013 7:56pm
Try massage, with a happy ending from the wife, even if you have to pay her!

Plus stretching... / physio...
smh
smh

smh

NSW

7269 posts

8 Dec 2013 8:00pm
One more thing about Pilates is to learn how to do it properly. Forget about the books and videos because its best to have someone watching you to make sure you are doing it right.
SandS
SandS

VIC

5904 posts

8 Dec 2013 8:08pm

8 panadol in 24 hrs , until the injury fixes itself .


edit plus beer and wine after 5pm as a booster
MickPC
MickPC

8266 posts

8 Dec 2013 5:11pm
Beer does work well, couple of absinth shots seem to be helping too...gonna havta look into these other suggestions more closely also, especially one in particular
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

8 Dec 2013 5:27pm
Beer ..... drink more >>> when you pass out there is no pain + some wild weed meds .... laughin'
jbshack
jbshack

WA

6913 posts

8 Dec 2013 5:31pm
You get good and bad Chiro, Mine likes me to get a massage first. That way it loosens my back and it helps hold it in place and recover quicker. I actually use all three.

Lately have got a roller and have been rolling out my back and that seems to be helping a lot as well..

I travel down to Stirling Chiro in Karinyup and they have the lot on staff.
chrispy
chrispy

WA

9675 posts

8 Dec 2013 5:34pm
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smh said..

One more thing about Pilates is to learn how to do it properly. Forget about the books and videos because its best to have someone watching you to make sure you are doing it right.


that is the most important one of all.. you have to be trained to keep your posture correctly. if you dont,well it is just a waste of time.
yoga is great....but for me to fix all my injuries, a very knowledgable physio/pilates instructor will teach you injury specific exercise's,it is worth every cent. this is from a broke arse also good paddling technique is a must
Tassiedevel
Tassiedevel

TAS

2249 posts

8 Dec 2013 8:38pm
Personal experience have seen animal chiropractors paralyze and even worse kill animals , won't let them touch my back , it's the only one I've got .I assume the human versions offer the same treatment

Sports physios are the way to go IMO even some of the physios not into sport injurys really don't do much good but at least they won't do any harm .

If that doesn't work you could try acupuncture, eastern medicines some swear by them .
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

8 Dec 2013 5:42pm
..... oh and get out of the routine Missionary position - grab a pillow and stash it under the small of your back and get the girl to assume the dominant position Brother
Tassiedevel
Tassiedevel

TAS

2249 posts

8 Dec 2013 8:45pm
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thePup said..

..... oh and get out of the routine Missionary position - grab a pillow and stash it under the small of your back and get the girl to assume the dominant position Brother


That's how I did my back in the first place Pup
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

8 Dec 2013 5:49pm
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Tassiedevel said..

thePup said..

..... oh and get out of the routine Missionary position - grab a pillow and stash it under the small of your back and get the girl to assume the dominant position Brother


That's how I did my back in the first place Pup





hmmmmm - well I prescribe the "Western Wagonwheel" position .... fresh strawberries & exxy chocolate is optional but recommended
chrispy
chrispy

WA

9675 posts

8 Dec 2013 5:53pm




Work on your core muscles...your back will be better with these specific exercises
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

8 Dec 2013 5:55pm
^^^^

.... and do you see how his girl curls her heels up behind and massages the small of his back





jbshack
jbshack

WA

6913 posts

8 Dec 2013 6:01pm
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chrispy said..





Work on your core muscles...your back will be better with these specific exercises



But know you've got her complaining and of to the Chiro/Pysio
But really who cares, not me
But don't see how this could help Mick's Shoulder
MickPC
MickPC

8266 posts

8 Dec 2013 6:03pm
It would be great to get some injury specific exercises from a physio, that does sound like the go...lookout for a decent chiro, get a massage, sort out a pillates routine, drink more beer & get more experimental in bed...I like this prescription, cheers guys
Tassiedevel
Tassiedevel

TAS

2249 posts

8 Dec 2013 9:04pm
Have to talk to my physio , he hasn't recommended any of those exercises to me , slack pr.ck ,hahaha .

What I have found really good for a bad back is time on the 666 , good excuse to get out on the water as well .
Tux
Tux

Tux

VIC

3829 posts

9 Dec 2013 8:46am
Osteopath they work on the muscles as well as the bones...Chiro is mainly interested in bones...Physio is mainly interested in muscles
Dazzler75
Dazzler75

QLD

458 posts

9 Dec 2013 8:02am
I've got a great physio that I've been going to for about 8 years for ongoing treatment of a back - as well as everything else that comes along!! He is older bloke who doesn't try to break you like some do. He promotes pilates and making sure I am aware of what work I have do by myself.

Be wary of chiros some of them are wackos verging on witch doctors - openly anti-vaccination, stating they should be first call for everything, manipulation of new-borns etc. Not all but some - even the industry body says to be careful.

Can't comment on osteopaths never been.

Simondo recommendation can't be discounted - injury or not!!
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave

QLD

6525 posts

9 Dec 2013 8:58am
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jbshack said..

You get good and bad Chiro


This is true.

The bad:
Make up the highest professional percentage of members of Anti-Vaccine Network (undermining every other medical group in Australia), want to touch babies with no proven benefit (recent possible broken neck of baby), Peddlers of random Woo like homeopathy, abuse the term Dr (by conveniently forgetting the legally proscribed additionDr.(Chiro) ), advertise by testimonials which is illegal in Australia and unethical in medical sphere, etc.

There is no proof of 'subluxation' being the cause of any issue. There is no proof that the clicker thing they use does anything at all other than provide a handy tool to inflict placebo/woo on believers.

The good:
Physio under another name, very good knowledge of anatomy, spine in particular.

Just go to the physio &/or massage


Teacake
Teacake

TAS

1099 posts

9 Dec 2013 10:02am
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SandS said..


8 panadol in 24 hrs , until the injury fixes itself .


edit plus beer and wine after 5pm as a booster


With that mix you would be as high as a kite!
jbshack
jbshack

WA

6913 posts

9 Dec 2013 1:35pm
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kiteboy dave said..


jbshack said..

You get good and bad Chiro



This is true.

The bad:
Make up the highest professional percentage of members of Anti-Vaccine Network (undermining every other medical group in Australia), want to touch babies with no proven benefit (recent possible broken neck of baby), Peddlers of random Woo like homeopathy, abuse the term Dr (by conveniently forgetting the legally proscribed additionDr.(Chiro) ), advertise by testimonials which is illegal in Australia and unethical in medical sphere, etc.

There is no proof of 'subluxation' being the cause of any issue. There is no proof that the clicker thing they use does anything at all other than provide a handy tool to inflict placebo/woo on believers.

The good:
Physio under another name, very good knowledge of anatomy, spine in particular.

Just go to the physio &/or massage




I've had a broken lower back and i suffer from massive muscle lock ups…SO when my back is out, i start to struggle to move, eventually literally locking up. Chiro gives much better/faster relief but it needs to be with Massage help. Chiro as said works on Spine movement and Physio Muscle. So the two together i feel really good.

But i have normally only ever been to top name guys and i have from time to time been stuck and used a few nasty's Best part is my Chiro surfs and understands my muscle movement, especially my neck, as my muscle groups in back are all working to keep spine in aline meant..so if anything goes out it starts working against me all time..


Souwester
Souwester

WA

1266 posts

9 Dec 2013 2:46pm
Cant beat a good physio IMHO..
MickPC
MickPC

8266 posts

9 Dec 2013 3:27pm
Woke up this morning stiff as (referring to my back here lol), just rolling onto my side was a mission. Wanted to try a physio, seems to be 2 big places, 1 had aroma therepy & wanky names for stuff. So I crossed it off the list. The other had more formal logical names for stuff, like "sport injury management" & generally appeared more professional. Unfortunately they could see me today.

So I opted for a Chinese massage place that I've been to before. Got a hot little Chinese chicky, told her I had these pains up in my shoulders & shoulder blades. She tugged down my pants & massaged my glutes (ass) as well, awesome massage. Felt so much better I ended up going for a surf...also taking 1000mg of paracetamol every 4hrs.

Shame I'm not in Bali where I can get 10 x 1 hr massages for what I paid...remembered a funny thing that happened last April when we were in Bali. The boss of one of the places on Jalan Jengala, went upstairs with the cutest girl in the joint who had this aprehensive look as she walked up the stairs behind him. About 10 mins later a local lady races up the stairs & starts shouting at the guy & they start arguing. She leaves pissed off & he comes down putting his shirt on as he goes after her. Then the girl comes down crying & gets consoled by her work mates.
thePup
thePup

13831 posts

9 Dec 2013 3:44pm
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MickPC said..

Woke up this morning stiff as (referring to my back here lol), just rolling onto my side was a mission. Wanted to try a physio, seems to be 2 big places, 1 had aroma therepy & wanky names for stuff. So I crossed it off the list. The other had more formal logical names for stuff, like "sport injury management" & generally appeared more professional. Unfortunately they could see me today.

So I opted for a Chinese massage place that I've been to before. Got a hot little Chinese chicky, told her I had these pains up in my shoulders & shoulder blades. She tugged down my pants & massaged my glutes (ass) as well, awesome massage. Felt so much better I ended up going for a surf...also taking 1000mg of paracetamol every 4hrs.

Shame I'm not in Bali where I can get 10 x 1 hr massages for what I paid...remembered a funny thing that happened last April when we were in Bali. The boss of one of the places on Jalan Jengala, went upstairs with the cutest girl in the joint who had this aprehensive look as she walked up the stairs behind him. About 10 mins later a local lady races up the stairs & starts shouting at the guy & they start arguing. She leaves pissed off & he comes down putting his shirt on as he goes after her. Then the girl comes down crying & gets consoled by her work mates.


..... Pulled yer strides down eh massaged your .... gluuuuutes did she hot little Asiatic was she yer I bet you feel drained better champion
MickPC
MickPC

8266 posts

9 Dec 2013 5:50pm
^lol...she's awesome mate, ask for Eva at the Chinese massage place next to the Central Woolworths
smicko
smicko

WA

2503 posts

9 Dec 2013 7:01pm
Accupuncture.
smh
smh

smh

NSW

7269 posts

9 Dec 2013 10:59pm
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jbshack said..

chrispy said..





Work on your core muscles...your back will be better with these specific exercises



But know you've got her complaining and of to the Chiro/Pysio
But really who cares, not me
But don't see how this could help Mick's Shoulder


That must surely help Micks shoulder and would be well worth the effort. Cant hurt ( Mick that is )
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