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Brewer 10'4 Malibu Gun (by Sanctum)

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Created by Simondo > 9 months ago, 23 May 2015
Simondo
VIC, 8024 posts
23 May 2015 7:39PM
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I'm really interested to try this board...
I like many things about it... The long rails, the rocker, and the meat in the middle...

The Sunset Tint, or in Red?... Look like the Sunset Tint is a triple stringer, unless it is cleverly painted on!...

Cost is about $800 + roughly $50 for freight. I'm interested to try to... Rather than diving in the deep end for say $1600-1900 from a good shaper...


http://www.sanctumsurf.com.au/1960s-gun-104~1000

Should be quite an OK small wave cruiser too...

Simondo
VIC, 8024 posts
23 May 2015 7:40PM
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Simondo
VIC, 8024 posts
23 May 2015 7:41PM
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laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
23 May 2015 7:56PM
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Get it.

MickPC
8266 posts
23 May 2015 6:15PM
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Board in my profile pic is a Sanctum, it was my goto board a couple of years ago. I still bring it along as backup...if you order one, grab the 10 pack box of wax for your water temp too, its good stuff & works out great value when you don't havta pay any extra shipping

thedrip
WA, 2355 posts
24 May 2015 12:31AM
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How big do you want to surf it? Looks like it could handle just about anything. The rocker looks neat.

Macaha
QLD, 21981 posts
24 May 2015 6:22AM
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I don't know Simondo,its a gun and what surf would you ride it in?
The art is a poor sunset example imho

McHenry
SA, 1739 posts
24 May 2015 10:19AM
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I think SA had one of these. Maybe send him a pm and ask for his opinion

surfanimal
NSW, 1662 posts
24 May 2015 11:11AM
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This one was an interesting but disappointing adventure.

The shape and deep concaves appealed to me but it is an antiquated design and like driving and old Cadillac over a new Camaro really. Fun for a while but advancements and modern technology make today's toys that much more enjoyable.

The board was true to the Pipeliner shape that it's copied from but I dare say the shape was replaced quickly in '68 as the board felt difficult to ride, to narrow for its length and thickness and to ride, very much like walking a tightrope.

I was disappointed in the build quality of my board (poor finish and blank / stringer) and I moved it on very quickly.

...but good on Sanctum for putting retro shapes out there !

Hope that helps.


























Ctngoodvibes
WA, 1404 posts
24 May 2015 10:03AM
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Anyone know how Ecs and sanctum compare in terms of build quality? Both of a similar price point but my gut feel is ecs looks better?

surfanimal
NSW, 1662 posts
24 May 2015 12:07PM
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ECS has a better eye for detail IMO.

Whether the foam is any different I'd not like to comment.

I had a 6'4 Sanctum keel fish and it felt strong and durable and the deck held up great. I've snapped a 9'4 ECS clean in half but it was wrong place wrong time and perhaps not the board.

ECS products look great and don't have the blemishes that this Sanctum Pipeliner had.

NB. I'm riding neither.

MickPC
8266 posts
24 May 2015 10:29AM
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I have a couple of ECS Bulldog's & a Sanctum Scrapdog...The second Bulldog I picked up in Bali had a couple of minor glassing imperfections. The Sanctum has had a hard knock that only got a pressure when it could easily have broken glass. A friend has had 2 LB ECS boards delaminate after 6 months, but Ryan was cool enough to replace them...I think both company's are about on par. They have pretty different shapes in their line'up & are worth a go if you see something that looks good. I'd just go for the board off the company that appears to have the shape you are chasing. I can say ECS are good at rectifying issues, don't know about Sanctum.

Regular retail prices for the boards have gone up a lot in the last 12 months. I'd consider another one at a sale price, but otherwise I would rather pay an extra $100-$150 for a board off a local shaper or something with superior structure Sunover/HS/FW. In the past couple of years they've had sales around this time of year on Ebay & on 2nd's Ebay seller accounts that sell boards that are meant to be structurally sound, but have blemishes or scratches.

Simondo
VIC, 8024 posts
24 May 2015 2:03PM
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Thanks heaps SA. Thanks guys.

Simondo
VIC, 8024 posts
24 May 2015 2:05PM
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Full credit to Billy at McTavish too. I'm sure Billy was behind the Original Sunset Tint. Re-activate the sunset tint Mac, for your next custom!

Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
25 May 2015 8:20AM
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For 800 bucks I don't think you could go far wrong... does look a bit on the anorexic side...generally on a big board like that you are looking at 21 plus and at least 4 inches thick.....looks nice though

BigSpazz
NSW, 946 posts
25 May 2015 11:13AM
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this is a good topic.....i am about to start a gun with bob mctavish.... big heavy...glass in D fin...triple stringer....cant wait

Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
25 May 2015 11:43AM
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BigSpazz said..
this is a good topic.....i am about to start a gun with bob mctavish.... big heavy...glass in D fin...triple stringer....cant wait



How big is the board going to be and how big are the waves that you plan to ride it in going to be...old school gun...mini gun...proper gun....****ed if I would want to riding a D fin in big surf....but I am a massive nancy

Simondo
VIC, 8024 posts
25 May 2015 1:54PM
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BigSpazz said..
this is a good topic.....i am about to start a gun with bob mctavish.... big heavy...glass in D fin...triple stringer....cant wait



We should do a deal, to get 2 done at the same time!

Macaha
QLD, 21981 posts
25 May 2015 1:56PM
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Bigspazz loves a big board and handles them very well just quietly.

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
25 May 2015 2:08PM
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Macaha said...
Bigspazz loves a big board and handles them very well just quietly.


He should get vanders whalebone then.


But I want my leggie string back

vanders1
QLD, 3809 posts
25 May 2015 3:03PM
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laceys lane said..

Macaha said...
Bigspazz loves a big board and handles them very well just quietly.



He should get vanders whalebone then.


But I want my leggie string back


Not for sale mate, what leggie string

BigSpazz
NSW, 946 posts
25 May 2015 3:47PM
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Tux said..

BigSpazz said..
this is a good topic.....i am about to start a gun with bob mctavish.... big heavy...glass in D fin...triple stringer....cant wait




How big is the board going to be and how big are the waves that you plan to ride it in going to be...old school gun...mini gun...proper gun....****ed if I would want to riding a D fin in big surf....but I am a massive nancy


i wanna do like the original Rhino chasers or Elephant guns.... old school gun...i love big heavy boards and i love D fins... i will ride it when its big i know its over kill but i love the challenge of riding big boards....i just want something special shaped by bob..

im thinking 1 x 1inch Cedar stringer with 2x 1/2 inch balsa stringers...8ounce volan top and bottom probably 2 layers....glass in Volan D fin ...yew

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
25 May 2015 1:56PM
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MickPC said..
I have a couple of ECS Bulldog's & a Sanctum Scrapdog...The second Bulldog I picked up in Bali had a couple of minor glassing imperfections. The Sanctum has had a hard knock that only got a pressure when it could easily have broken glass. A friend has had 2 LB ECS boards delaminate after 6 months, but Ryan was cool enough to replace them...I think both company's are about on par. They have pretty different shapes in their line'up & are worth a go if you see something that looks good. I'd just go for the board off the company that appears to have the shape you are chasing. I can say ECS are good at rectifying issues, don't know about Sanctum.

Regular retail prices for the boards have gone up a lot in the last 12 months. I'd consider another one at a sale price, but otherwise I would rather pay an extra $100-$150 for a board off a local shaper or something with superior structure Sunover/HS/FW. In the past couple of years they've had sales around this time of year on Ebay & on 2nd's Ebay seller accounts that sell boards that are meant to be structurally sound, but have blemishes or scratches.






Dazzler75
QLD, 458 posts
25 May 2015 5:10PM
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Agree - I would be wary of big D fin as you want to turn it! Go for a fin box and play around with fins.

I used to have an 10 inch hatchet fin in my 10ft log and it was terrible in any wave over waist high. Since I put an 11inch rake in I've ridden it in double overhead and found I can actually turn it, particularly helpful on bottom turns!

My 2cents on the sanctum gun is a bit to skinny and thin for my liking.

Interesting taking note of Bob McT thoughts on rocker for the G2 gun - less rocker will allow better paddle power / glide to allow you to get in early.

chrispy
WA, 9675 posts
26 May 2015 3:58AM
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Dazzler75 said..
Agree - I would be wary of big D fin as you want to turn it! Go for a fin box and play around with fins.

I used to have an 10 inch hatchet fin in my 10ft log and it was terrible in any wave over waist high. Since I put an 11inch rake in I've ridden it in double overhead and found I can actually turn it, particularly helpful on bottom turns!

My 2cents on the sanctum gun is a bit to skinny and thin for my liking.

Interesting taking note of Bob McT thoughts on rocker for the G2 gun - less rocker will allow better paddle power / glide to allow you to get in early.


I agree.

is this more for a wall hanger than actual im going to chase monster waves BS?
I feel giddy thinking about a dfin in huge waves. balls for you mate

Macaha
QLD, 21981 posts
26 May 2015 6:09AM
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I've watched BS and his mate Ed take on some fat bombs at watego's on their big boards great stuff watching them turn off the tail.

chrispy
WA, 9675 posts
26 May 2015 4:29AM
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Macaha said..
I've watched BS and his mate Ed take on some fat bombs at watego's on their big boards great stuff watching them turn off the tail.


the problem here is...you should have been surfing not watching

Macaha
QLD, 21981 posts
26 May 2015 7:00AM
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chrispy said..


Macaha said..
I've watched BS and his mate Ed take on some fat bombs at watego's on their big boards great stuff watching them turn off the tail.




the problem here is...you should have been surfing not watching



It was big, rangy and sharky no thanks much safer watching

Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
26 May 2015 9:12AM
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Dazzler75 said..
Agree - I would be wary of big D fin as you want to turn it! Go for a fin box and play around with fins.

I used to have an 10 inch hatchet fin in my 10ft log and it was terrible in any wave over waist high. Since I put an 11inch rake in I've ridden it in double overhead and found I can actually turn it, particularly helpful on bottom turns!

My 2cents on the sanctum gun is a bit to skinny and thin for my liking.

Interesting taking note of Bob McT thoughts on rocker for the G2 gun - less rocker will allow better paddle power / glide to allow you to get in early.


I'm going to have to get a bit Roy here...but the G2's and most of the really good guns that are made for Australian waves (not slabs) employ a long low entry rocker which will mean that the apex of the rocker is further back....this helps with paddle speed and will prevent pearling as the pivot/fulcrum points come into play as soon as you standup and you weight goes back a bit...either way I think Big Spazz will deffo end up with a pearler and Simmondo will deffo be off Bob's Christmas card list if he buys a non-Bob brand

surfanimal
NSW, 1662 posts
26 May 2015 9:23AM
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Having owned and ridden a lot of this style of board, it's hard to go past the G2 however some might find it a touch refined so I'd suggest the MC Mal Gun is THE longboarder's gun.

...it ticks all the boxes then some.





Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
26 May 2015 10:09AM
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surfanimal said..
Having owned and ridden a lot of this style of board, it's hard to go past the G2 however some might find it a touch refined so I'd suggest the MC Mal Gun is THE longboarder's gun.

...it ticks all the boxes then some.







That looks like a beast bro...dimensions please sir!!



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