Im having trouble with my paddle handle, i have tried glue gun, several times, and araldite a couple of times, but i cannot stop the handle from twisting in the shaft. Has this happened to others if so is there a simple solution. The paddle is a very good brand, which i would rather not name, as i do really like the paddle.

plastic bag wrap and twist it in.

Come on.. Tell us the brand..

Is it carbon? Is the handle plastic? Where are you in Vic?

Ok easy fix .....

Take your handle out and let your paddle completely dry out for a few hours in the sun if any water has got in. Get rid of any previous glue residue from the handle and inside the shaft.

Next get some 120/240 sandpaper and gently sand inside the paddle shaft and around the handle shaft. This will allow the glue to key to both surfaces.

Now mix up a big blob of 5 min araldite and and coat the paddle handle and inside and down the shaft generously . Now place handle in the shaft and line it up so its level with the blade.

Put some electrical tape over the top of the handle and down the side of the handle a few inches. Let the blade sit overnight and you'll be ready to go.

I've used this technique on heaps of paddles over the past 18 years across many brands without any issues.

Cheers
Waz

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DavidJohn said..
Come on.. Tell us the brand..

Is it carbon? Is the handle plastic? Where are you in Vic?

It's carbon.

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wazza66 said..
Ok easy fix .....

Take your handle out and let your paddle completely dry out for a few hours in the sun if any water has got in. Get rid of any previous glue residue from the handle and inside the shaft.

Next get some 120/240 sandpaper and gently sand inside the paddle shaft and around the handle shaft. This will allow the glue to key to both surfaces.

Now mix up a big blob of 5 min araldite and and coat the paddle handle and inside and down the shaft generously . Now place handle in the shaft and line it up so its level with the blade.

Put some electrical tape over the top of the handle and down the side of the handle a few inches. Let the blade sit overnight and you'll be ready to go.

I've used this technique on heaps of paddles over the past 18 years across many brands without any issues.

Cheers
Waz

Thanks wazza, I definitely haven't taken as much care as you have outlined, above, I will give it a go.
thanks again

I never had the issue, and I cannot see how it can happen.

Unless the connecting surface between the handle and the shaft is very small?
This is why we need pics or at least the brand to understand what could be the issue.

I.E, not a male part entering 2" into the paddle shaft.

Its a ke nalu paddle. Standard ergo handle. Fixed correctly. Once used the handle twists approx 45 degrees from the correct position. Has done so now on several occassions. I have had a number of paddles and have not had this occur, previously.

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lam said..
Its a ke nalu paddle. Standard ergo handle. Fixed correctly. Once used the handle twists approx 45 degrees from the correct position. Has done so now on several occassions. I have had a number of paddles and have not had this occur, previously.

KeNalu are great paddles and that explains what might be your problem.. Other brand paddles have a fairly tight fitting handle that is usually glued with an epoxy (Aroldite) type adhesive..

KeNalu was one of the first paddles to use a hot-glue system to attach their blades and handles but when they first tested this system with a tight fitting handle/blade they found that it pushed most of the hot-glue out of the join and it wasn't working well..

So Bill then designed the paddles with a little more wriggle room so more of the hot-glue would stay in the join and it works fine now.. If you use a runny mix epoxy (Aroldite) it can run out of the loose fitting join..

It's good to keep this in mind when gluing and if you clean and rough up both surfaces.. Use plenty of hot-glue (or epoxy) and once glued maybe put tape around the join and rest the paddle upside down while it cures so the glue can't flow out of the join..

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lam said..
Its a ke nalu paddle. Standard ergo handle. Fixed correctly. Once used the handle twists approx 45 degrees from the correct position. Has done so now on several occassions. I have had a number of paddles and have not had this occur, previously.

KeNalu are great paddles and that explains what might be your problem.. Other brand paddles have a fairly tight fitting handle that is usually glued with an epoxy (Aroldite) type adhesive..

KeNalu was one of the first paddles to use a hot-glue system to attach their blades and handles but when they first tested this system with a tight fitting handle/blade they found that it pushed most of the hot-glue out of the join and it wasn't working well..

So Bill then designed the paddles with a little more wriggle room so more of the hot-glue would stay in the join and it works fine now.. If you use a runny mix epoxy (Aroldite) it can run out of the loose fitting join..

It's good to keep this in mind when gluing and if you clean and rough up both surfaces.. Use plenty of hot-glue (or epoxy) and once glued maybe put tape around the join and rest the paddle upside down while it cures so the glue can't flow out of the join..

Thankyou for the explanation, that makes sense. I will combine yours and wazza's tips tomorrow, with yet another attempt. Interestingly enough I have been putting tape around the join, yet the handle still twists but the tape shows no sign of stretching.
Thankyou again

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DavidJohn said..
put tape around the join

This is very important in in all cases: it avoids the glue running out, but also air bubbles creating holes (if the temperature rises), and the handle moving during curing.

If the hosel has ANY play inside the shaft when you get all the glue off:
add a thin layer of epoxy to the hosel and sand smooth, test fit..... if still loose, add another layer and sand until snug
Then Glue or epoxy and tape seam with electrical tape

I have Ke Nalu paddles...I always ditched the hot glue and stuck them down with marine epoxy. I found the hot glue wasn't strong enough and had same problem with the handle moving.

Mystery of the twisting handle solved. It wasn't the handle twisting it was the blade! How f..n dumb am I.

Makes sense

The whole hot glue thing is great for being able to swap out broken shafts but I've never had much success using it (although I know many who swear by it)..

I'd recommend using 5min Aroldite because it in most cases be undone where if you use the 24hr Aroldite it's usually stuck for good..

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DavidJohn said..
Makes sense

The whole hot glue thing is great for being able to swap out broken shafts but I've never had much success using it (although I know many who swear by it)..

I'd recommend using 5min Aroldite because it in most cases be undone where if you use the 24hr Aroldite it's usually stuck for good..

I have followed your advice now connecting blade and handle, hopefully all good from here, ????

Same brand same problem and I've just redone the hot glue thing and then came across this thread doh!!
It was a weird sensation paddling in the surf before I nutted out what happened - like the paddle just ran out of petrol and was dying in the butt!
See how the reglue goes fingers crossed. Bloody good paddle though

I have same problem with my ke nalu!!!! Love it but always having to redo the glue, but my 2 friends w same paddle haven't had problem