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thegreatsup
thegreatsup

564 posts

17 Dec 2019 12:20pm
any of you guys had a leash snap while in the break and watch your board go to shore?
Talk about an awkward movement trying to hold a paddle in one hand and trying to swim back to shore in the other!!

any techniques for this?
Ishie
Ishie

NSW

48 posts

17 Dec 2019 3:31pm
I haven't done this yet, but have given it some thought after a few long swims. I reckon if you kept a zip tie in your pocket, then if your leggie breaks you could zip tie around the shaft of the paddle under the handle and through the ankle strap of your leggie. Then you could just swim and drag it.
Gboots
Gboots

NSW

1321 posts

17 Dec 2019 3:40pm
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benjl said..
any of you guys had a leash snap while in the break and watch your board go to shore?
Talk about an awkward movement trying to hold a paddle in one hand and trying to swim back to shore in the other!!

any techniques for this?


Yes . Happened to me 2 years ago. Tried to swim in whilst throwing paddle forward swimming throwing - repeat for 10 mins and was getting know where - tired and pretty far out
Got really tired . Eventually swallowed my pride and put hand up and lifeguard came to my aid .
I no longer SUP to total exhaustion .
if I was desperate I would have just let go of paddle and swum in
thegreatsup
thegreatsup

564 posts

17 Dec 2019 12:42pm
Ah interesting, yeah I got hammered by a few sets and wondered what would have happened if I was out in bigger stuff! That paddle to the leg ideA is not bad
Browy
Browy

QLD

47 posts

17 Dec 2019 2:50pm
Tie the remainder of legrope around the shaft of the paddle and swim in. Handle and blade will width will keep it attached.
Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

17 Dec 2019 3:37pm
Throw you're paddle 10 feet in front of you and swim towards it,repeat until you hit the sand.
Nugdam
Nugdam

QLD

600 posts

17 Dec 2019 4:46pm
Yep! Twice unfortunately and both times was a mission with the paddle. I had to throw the paddle infront of me and swim a few meters rinse and repeat.
Chris_M
Chris_M

2132 posts

17 Dec 2019 3:23pm
Yep had a few swims in like this, I just swam freestyle, and would push the paddle ahead of me every stroke or 2.

Was kinda slow going, but works
seabreezer
seabreezer

377 posts

17 Dec 2019 4:01pm
Ive had it happen 4 times - despite using heavy duty 'bag wave' leashes ... and always on a bigger day .... ive always biffed my lovely carbon paddle and swam for the board f%^&^ quickly ..... then paddle prone back out into the waves and find the paddle .... Ive had a couple of long swims for sure when ive been surfing a reef a little way off the beach ... and the board gets washed a long way .... if its really gone a long way - best to preserve your energy and swim slow and steady ...

GET THE BEST LEASH POSSIBLE (Outer-reef / 12mm etc for bigger days) - AND REPLACE EVERY 6 MONTHS ... smaller days by all means use smaller / thinner leashes ...
Chris_M
Chris_M

2132 posts

17 Dec 2019 5:07pm
I want to put in a +1 for the O&E leashes and a negative one million for the Da Kine leashes... those things just see a big wave coming and snap in half spontaneously
kato
kato

VIC

3513 posts

17 Dec 2019 8:21pm
Used two methods , tie leg rope to paddle and swim in or use leg strap and strap it to your leg. Swim in. Bailing on the paddle at my breaks , you would never see it again
JEG
JEG

JEG

VIC

1469 posts

17 Dec 2019 8:33pm
I agree with the tie to the paddle.
The paddle back in is hardwork and I didn't realise how big those sets were until your swimming without a board and alone without some sort of floating device, its cary.... phew.
Clarky
Clarky

QLD

295 posts

17 Dec 2019 7:46pm
A couple of techniques. If your in clean water slide the paddle on the outside of your leg under your shorts with the handle above waistline. If your in the zone getting pummeled use the blade to help the whitewater to push you on, and then use the blade in breaststroke mode. If you do it right Phelps wouldn't catch you.
thegreatsup
thegreatsup

564 posts

17 Dec 2019 6:11pm
I'm glad this has started such a useful thread!
Ishie
Ishie

NSW

48 posts

17 Dec 2019 9:49pm
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kato said..
Used two methods , tie leg rope to paddle and swim in or use leg strap and strap it to your leg. Swim in. Bailing on the paddle at my breaks , you would never see it again


I have trouble tieing good knots with the leg rope, but that is a great idea just putting the paddle inside your leg strap. Good thinking.
Loz79
Loz79

QLD

459 posts

17 Dec 2019 9:32pm
You can put the handle between you legs and tie it to the draw string of your boardies, the paddle then keeps you afloat as you swim with arms, no way I would let paddle go and swim in, paddle is a great flotation device....
supthecreek
supthecreek

2750 posts

17 Dec 2019 8:17pm
I paddle myself in!

I discovered this technique one winter, while I was surfing alone in the fog... in full 5 mm wetsuit
5' waves at a reef break in New England.... 400 yards out, strong current.
My leash snapped
My new board was being driven towards a 10' granite block wall
I needed to get in fast, so came up with this plan:

I lay on my back
left hand grips the hosel, just above the blade
right hand grips mid shaft
result:
my blade side is SHORT
my handle side is LONG

Laying on my back, with my head pointing towards shore
I simply "kayak paddle" myself in!
Plus I kick my feet as I paddle

It is surprisingly efficient, and not tiring at all
Because I am doing a "modified backstroke" kick
I can watch behind me, to keep track of any surfers

the longer "handle side" balances the drive of the short "blades side"... and actually keeps you moving quite well.

Why drag the paddle when you can use it!!!!
SunnyBouy
SunnyBouy

473 posts

17 Dec 2019 9:50pm
Hasn't happened to me yet, but I think the tie the paddle shaft to the end of the leash is a good idea..
I have practiced the "chuck paddle in and swim to fetch it, towing the board" & "chuck paddle in and prone the board to pick up the paddle.

Good tips lads, good tips.
subber
subber

78 posts

18 Dec 2019 1:28am
I had it happen once, so for next time, I sewed a "Paddle Loop" to my board shorts
(and later to my waist leash). It is a piece of elastic rope short the right
length to insert the paddle handle into and it will hold the paddle so
it will trail behind - it is a pretty small loop. It works really well.

But, I gotta try Creek's technique as I've got some new board shorts
and a new waist leash and haven't gotten around to sewing in a Paddle
Loop. Still, I do use the paddle loop to wrap around the middle of the
leash and hold it out of the water for less drag when paddling and
catching a wave - another reason to have one.
pete53
pete53

NSW

251 posts

18 Dec 2019 6:26am
Great tips fellas. Now are some boards more prone to break leggier than others or is it just bad luck? (l know a nick from rocks is the kiss of death) I've done several on the Hypernut but none on my style surfing same spots.
JBFletch
JBFletch

QLD

1287 posts

18 Dec 2019 7:07am
Sadly I've done it alot.I found that if you hold the shaft, were it meets the blade. With shaft pointing to the beach. you can use the paddle like a bodysurf hand plane.Catch a wave and you'll be on it to the beach.

You'll look like a unicorn swimming to the beach, but it eliminates the chance of losing your paddle when throwing it.
FRP
FRP

FRP

501 posts

18 Dec 2019 6:05am
Hi

I had a long harrowing swim in about five years ago and did exactly what Creek said. Rolled on my back, choked up on the paddle shaft and paddled myself in to shore. I could see the sets coming and could prepare for the washing machine. I was perhaps close to a kilometre out and still vividly remember the experience and thinking "This is not the way I want to go out!" Close to shore I got caught in a lateral rip and just kept going. I crawled up the beach exhausted. I changed several things after that swim including beefing up my leashes, switched to a waist leash, wearing an impact vest and if I am out in conditions much beyond my abilities, I head in.
Bob
chucktheskiffie
chucktheskiffie

220 posts

18 Dec 2019 7:29am
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Chris_M said..
I want to put in a +1 for the O&E leashes



+2
justaddwater
justaddwater

NSW

763 posts

18 Dec 2019 10:39am
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chucktheskiffie said..

Chris_M said..
I want to put in a +1 for the O&E leashes




+2

I hear Smik leashes are the go ,built for/tested in the West Aussie juice!
Helmy
Helmy

VIC

799 posts

18 Dec 2019 2:26pm
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supthecreek said..
I paddle myself in!

I discovered this technique one winter, while I was surfing alone in the fog... in full 5 mm wetsuit
5' waves at a reef break in New England.... 400 yards out, strong current.
My leash snapped
My new board was being driven towards a 10' granite block wall
I needed to get in fast, so came up with this plan:

I lay on my back
left hand grips the hosel, just above the blade
right hand grips mid shaft
result:
my blade side is SHORT
my handle side is LONG

Laying on my back, with my head pointing towards shore
I simply "kayak paddle" myself in!
Plus I kick my feet as I paddle

It is surprisingly efficient, and not tiring at all
Because I am doing a "modified backstroke" kick
I can watch behind me, to keep track of any surfers

the longer "handle side" balances the drive of the short "blades side"... and actually keeps you moving quite well.

Why drag the paddle when you can use it!!!!


Hey I'm at work tomorrow morning STC, so I'll look forward to your vid of this technique in the morning!
39c here in Melbourne today, so you in a 5mm wettie in winter should look great!

But seriously, that sounds like a great innovation.
Thanks
bobajob
bobajob

QLD

1535 posts

18 Dec 2019 5:57pm
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supthecreek said..
I paddle myself in!

I discovered this technique one winter, while I was surfing alone in the fog... in full 5 mm wetsuit
5' waves at a reef break in New England.... 400 yards out, strong current.
My leash snapped
My new board was being driven towards a 10' granite block wall
I needed to get in fast, so came up with this plan:

I lay on my back
left hand grips the hosel, just above the blade
right hand grips mid shaft
result:
my blade side is SHORT
my handle side is LONG

Laying on my back, with my head pointing towards shore
I simply "kayak paddle" myself in!
Plus I kick my feet as I paddle

It is surprisingly efficient, and not tiring at all
Because I am doing a "modified backstroke" kick
I can watch behind me, to keep track of any surfers

the longer "handle side" balances the drive of the short "blades side"... and actually keeps you moving quite well.

Why drag the paddle when you can use it!!!!


Great thread!!
I think I might have to give this a go as a practice run when no one is around. I have had the odd tiring experience using the throw and follow technique which now I realise is like driving your car by running beside it.
Gboots
Gboots

NSW

1321 posts

18 Dec 2019 7:30pm
The other thing that I was told is that a wet suit provides buoyancy ? How much truth is there in this ?
kato
kato

VIC

3513 posts

18 Dec 2019 7:53pm
Lots. I float really well in a 4/3 and swim like a fish. Without..... stone .
Does help that I'm in Victoria and it rarely gets too warm.
supthecreek
supthecreek

2750 posts

18 Dec 2019 6:56pm
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Gboots said..
The other thing that I was told is that a wet suit provides buoyancy ? How much truth is there in this ?


My 5/4 is so buoyant that sometimes, when I fall in on my back, I have trouble pulling my feet back under me..... they just want to float.
ghost4man
ghost4man

408 posts

19 Dec 2019 4:59am
I think the moral of the story is.........Be confident in your swimming ability if things get tough.
Be prepared to ditch your board and paddle to save yourself........Be safe folks.
justaddwater
justaddwater

NSW

763 posts

19 Dec 2019 8:27am
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ghost4man said..
I think the moral of the story is.........Be confident in your swimming ability if things get tough.
Be prepared to ditch your board and paddle to save yourself........Be safe folks.


Ghost.Wise words when this happened to me,there was a strong sweep,so my board was disappearing,and I was doing throwing the paddle thing.One lady long boarder offered some assistance,but I said I'm ok, but I wasn't! Foolish/ego,I did manage to get in /recover board,paddle ect. Sitting on the beach exhausted I came to relive that was the first time in 50 years of surfing that I was in trouble,and had just had what I call a safe scare,I am a lot more cautious these days,check equipment ,surf conditions. The funny thing was sitting on the beach completely spent the same lady came up to me and said you have had the best workout of all of us ,we both had a good laugh ??
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