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DavidJohn
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7 Mar 2014 3:37pm
I just ordered one.. http://shop.camelbak.com/tahoelr/d/1317_c_100

A bumbag style drinking system that also holds your bumbag style PFD? Awesome..



PTWoody
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7 Mar 2014 3:55pm
Call me skeptical but I've been caught out by that mob's dubious claims once before. Believe it when I see it.
HumanCartoon
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7 Mar 2014 5:28pm
I reckon if I was in trouble enough to want to deploy my PFD I'd want to be wearing it, not fishing it out of another bumbag, then clipping it on...etc etc

(this presupposes that I've remembered to bring it)

gregc
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8 Mar 2014 11:57am
IMHO the idea of a bumbag style PFD will only work if you are conscious and calm enough to go fishing it out of wherever it is hiding. In most cases they assist in helping people avoid the use of another style PFD. If you think of the airlines when they tell you in the safety briefing to put your lifejacket on before you exit the craft, that is for a reason. Once again just my opinion
DavidJohn
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8 Mar 2014 12:07pm
If you can't swim and are out on the water these bumbag type PFD's and very stupid and dangerous IMO.. Particularly this idea of having it inside your drinking system.

But if you're a good swimmer and only have to carry the stupid thing because of the laws that are forced apon us I think these inflatable type PFD's are a great idea..

I like to have my water bottle holder around my waist and behind me.. and was going to have to wear my bulb bag PFD in the front where it gets in the way.

Once I get it I'll let you know if it works.. (If the PFD fits inside)
PTWoody
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8 Mar 2014 2:11pm
Yeah I think Stu and Greg and DJ are all right - the bumbags are good for obliging the regulations. But in the event of falling off and losing your board, and being neck deep in a huge swell and strong current, you don't want to be pulling an inflatable out of a bag, putting it on, and then trying to figure out how it works.
rambooc1
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9 Mar 2014 9:32am
In my opinion, anything that encourages the carrying of a PFD is a good thing ( it's better than nothing) however knowing the limitations of what you're chosen is essential. I know people that carry them and have never even tried them in deployed mode. Yep, they are fiddly to don on land let alone in the water. I find they are more suitable as a race PFD in a controlled environment where there are other means of rescue like support boats etc rather than suitable for use in solo downwind training runs. However, accompanied with a mobile phone, flare and leg rope, you have a self rescue kit that is attached to you and doesn't affect your paddling or fun, and therefore likely to be always taken with you. Carrying waters optional, and can actually effect your balance being high up on the body during SUP. I've found it's beneficial to train the body to not rely on water in shorter races under 90 mins, 200ml of electrolytes is my choice, 3lt CamelBak, who wants to struggle with that, 1lt is bad enough.

Stay safe.
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riverider
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9 Mar 2014 8:53pm
Don't know what sort you guys have, but the one I have that I wear on the front comes in a Velcro bag, all you have to do is pull it straight over your head and pull the cord, it's already tied to your waist, doesn't take more than 10 seconds to deploy.
HumanCartoon
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9 Mar 2014 10:22pm
riverider said..

Don't know what sort you guys have, but the one I have that I wear on the front comes in a Velcro bag, all you have to do is pull it straight over your head and pull the cord, it's already tied to your waist, doesn't take more than 10 seconds to deploy.



Yeah...we've got those...but most of us down here have the possibly dumb habit of wearing them around the back (so it's not in the way climbing onto your board after a spill)
laceys lane
laceys lane
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9 Mar 2014 10:41pm
i'm not sure a separate blow up pfd in a bum bag is going to cut the mustard with race officials.

the bum bag with the attached pfd with a gas canister barely gets you to a race start with some refusing them.

personally i can see everyone eventually 'wearing' pfd's although heat stress becomes a issue in some 'hot climate' states.


most know my story a few months ago now. i passed out in the water was one part of it. no warning, no i'll just lie on my board or something. so it makes my think a full supported pfd would be safer.

if you fall and get knocked out or just pass out a pfd bum bag isn't worth jack sh1t in reality. and lets face it- even in non race dw ers most times you wouldn't know what the guys behind you were doing if everybody is experienced and no ones worried about novices


the old saying- prepare for the worse and hope for the best goes out the window for comfort when it comes to sup paddlers

Urangatan
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10 Mar 2014 7:27pm
Probably older model, but not bad for 60 bucks!

www.torpedo7.co.nz/content/closed
DavidJohn
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12 Mar 2014 10:53pm
Urangatan said...
Probably older model, but not bad for 60 bucks!

www.torpedo7.co.nz/content/closed


Thanks.. and yes it's an older model.

I recieved mine yesterday and the PFD fits in it perfect.

I'll try it out on Saturdays downwinder.. and Sundays Mad Paddle..


Abdillam
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12 Mar 2014 11:57pm
Big weekend of downwinding...I'm in for both

Cheers
gregc
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13 Mar 2014 8:45pm
Just one more thing to add, if you happen to be out in the water in anything over waist deep water and you can't swim then you are without a doubt an idiot. A PFD or a Leggy will not prevent stupidity.
DavidJohn
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13 Mar 2014 10:57pm

Abdillam said..
Big weekend of downwinding...I'm in for both

Cheers


Saturday downwinder is looking ok for about a 9am meet at Sandy with about 22 knots north wind forcast.
jafa1970
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18 Mar 2014 1:10pm
DavidJohn said..

I recieved mine yesterday and the PFD fits in it perfect.

I'll try it out on Saturdays downwinder.. and Sundays Mad Paddle..





DJ, how did the Tahoe go over the weekend? Have you used a hydration pack previously, if so, how does the lumbar bladder compare?

Am wondering about having the hose around the area hands are moving about in, and ease of use while. I have found heavy waist style packs (not hydrations ones) to be less comfortable than having one on the back, so am interested to hear a comparison.

Cheers
DavidJohn
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18 Mar 2014 1:41pm
I really like it.

I've got three other waist packs [Camelbak, Kathmando and DaKine] and a few backpack types.. so I really didn't need another..

The big attraction with this was the ability to carry my waist type PFD inside it.. and it works great.

It's the best and most comfortable out of the four different types.. You can see mine here.. [at the start and end of the vid]

btw I didn't use it on the w/e [Mad Paddle]

jafa1970
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18 Mar 2014 5:56pm
Thanks for the update.

Cheers
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