Nose riding a Sunova Speeed

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FRP
FRP
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FRP FRP
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28 Nov 2019 8:39am
Please tell me this is a bad idea before I do it. I have gone to the nose of my 8'10" Speeed a few times and want to do it more consistently. Rather than buying another board I am considering putting in a US box to accommodate a large long board fin to provide more drag and hold. Bert describes the "Steeze" as what the Speeed would look like if it was normal. The Steeze is a passable nose rider, why not the Speeed? Cheers

Bob
Helmy
Helmy
VIC
799 posts
VIC, 799 posts
28 Nov 2019 3:58pm
FRP said..
Please tell me this is a bad idea before I do it. I have gone to the nose of my 8'10" Speeed a few times and want to do it more consistently. Rather than buying another board I am considering putting in a US box to accommodate a large long board fin to provide more drag and hold. Bert describes the "Steeze" as what the Speeed would look like if it was normal. The Steeze is a passable nose rider, why not the Speeed? Cheers

Bob


Sounds like a great idea Bob.
Just make sure you solo-shot it and post on the breeze!
colas
colas
5379 posts
5379 posts
28 Nov 2019 1:54pm
If you can find big twin fins (like the Mark Richards), you may try them.

I only used twin fins with a trailer or a small center fin on my longboard SUP, I found that they provided quite a good hold with the inside one able to bite deep into the wave. They are not as efficient as a big single to hold the tail at slow speed on noserides, of course, but you may want to try it first, or big keels.
Bighugg
Bighugg
498 posts
498 posts
28 Nov 2019 7:31pm
Go the Twins / hybrid keels.
Ran them in a demo 8'10 Speeed on knee to waist height runners, great nose, whilst being the Mrs's demo board caddie.
Walter1
Walter1
NSW
11 posts
NSW, 11 posts
29 Nov 2019 6:38am
What The !!! just go out and nose ride the dam thing I've got a 10' speed goes great I ride the nose on it without a large single fin as a mater of fact I'm running 2 smaller side fins thing goes great !!!
FRP
FRP
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FRP FRP
505 posts
29 Nov 2019 8:30am
Thanks everyone. Good suggestions, especially the last advice......just do it!

I got out today and it was truly humbling. In the past I have been shuffling to the front of the board and today was determined to walk. I put the largest fins in the board as I have (Large Cdrives) and took it out in reasonable waves. Certainly the long boarders were walking to the nose. The best I could do was three tentative cross steps forward before crashing. Sometimes just one step and getting locked in on the top third of the wave and that was ok. It definitely is not the board that is holding me back. I just need to learn to cross step and the 8'10" Speeed is a stable enough platform to learn on. I need much more practice and then consider investing in a dedicated nose rider. Crazing good fun and back to being a total goof.

Cheers,

Bob
colas
colas
5379 posts
5379 posts
29 Nov 2019 3:18pm
Yes, it is much more technical than it looks. Reading the wave to find the proper trajectory is critical.

Tell your wife to begin getting used to see you cross-stepping all over the house :-)
LucBenac
LucBenac
432 posts
432 posts
29 Nov 2019 11:38pm
FRP said..
Thanks everyone. Good suggestions, especially the last advice......just do it!

I got out today and it was truly humbling. In the past I have been shuffling to the front of the board and today was determined to walk. I put the largest fins in the board as I have (Large Cdrives) and took it out in reasonable waves. Certainly the long boarders were walking to the nose. The best I could do was three tentative cross steps forward before crashing. Sometimes just one step and getting locked in on the top third of the wave and that was ok. It definitely is not the board that is holding me back. I just need to learn to cross step and the 8'10" Speeed is a stable enough platform to learn on. I need much more practice and then consider investing in a dedicated nose rider. Crazing good fun and back to being a total goof.

Cheers,

Bob


Hey Bob, I can lend you my Nalu when I come (maybee early April) and you can waltz to the nose and back including a loop with flourish :-)
FRP
FRP
505 posts
FRP FRP
505 posts
30 Nov 2019 2:04am
LucBenac said..

FRP said..
Thanks everyone. Good suggestions, especially the last advice......just do it!

I got out today and it was truly humbling. In the past I have been shuffling to the front of the board and today was determined to walk. I put the largest fins in the board as I have (Large Cdrives) and took it out in reasonable waves. Certainly the long boarders were walking to the nose. The best I could do was three tentative cross steps forward before crashing. Sometimes just one step and getting locked in on the top third of the wave and that was ok. It definitely is not the board that is holding me back. I just need to learn to cross step and the 8'10" Speeed is a stable enough platform to learn on. I need much more practice and then consider investing in a dedicated nose rider. Crazing good fun and back to being a total goof.

Cheers,

Bob



Hey Bob, I can lend you my Nalu when I come (maybee early April) and you can waltz to the nose and back including a loop with flourish :-)


Thanks Luc

Yes! The Nalu would be perfect. I have from now until April to work on my cross stepping and as per Colas suggestion did a little waltz around the house this early this morning much to the amusement of my dog.

Cheers

Bob
supthecreek
supthecreek
2760 posts
2760 posts
30 Nov 2019 7:57am
FRP said..
Please tell me this is a bad idea before I do it. I have gone to the nose of my 8'10" Speeed a few times and want to do it more consistently. Rather than buying another board I am considering putting in a US box to accommodate a large long board fin to provide more drag and hold. Bert describes the "Steeze" as what the Speeed would look like if it was normal. The Steeze is a passable nose rider, why not the Speeed? Cheers

Bob



I made many posts about noseriding the Speeed.
It is quite easy to do because the nose sort of "plows" a bit and slows the board down to perfect noseriding pace.
The scoop nose won't let the nose sink into the water, so it's very easy to control the ride from up there.

Best I could do for some footage of me noseriding the Speeed... and oldy

FRP
FRP
505 posts
FRP FRP
505 posts
30 Nov 2019 8:45am
Thanks Creek

Yes when you look at it the nose kick it starts quite close to the front of the board and if I am positioned at that point, about 8" from the nose it should all be good. It is such a broad platform up there. Also I am getting better at stalling the board by stepping back on the tail and that may help with setting up the rides on the top of the wave. All a bit academic at the moment until I learn to cross step. Very cool though to be learning something new. I won't post any video until there is something to see and not just me wonking about. The hexatraction is fantastic. I knew there was a reason I put it on the board two years ago.

Cheers

Bob
Bighugg
Bighugg
498 posts
498 posts
29 Jan 2020 5:28pm
How is the cross stepping progress ?
FRP
FRP
505 posts
FRP FRP
505 posts
30 Jan 2020 11:43am
Thank Bighugg

I will find out in the next couple of weeks. I hope to find some good waves. The last time I was out it was blowing 30 knots, big waves and more an exercise in survival than anything on the nose. My wife thought I was a bit nuts to be out in the water. The last month has been mostly work and elder care. My mom is over 100 years and starting to slow down. Living independently, driving a car, playing bridge and goes to exercise class. I am now able to win a few of the scrabble games with her!
Cheers

Bob
90 posts
30 Jan 2020 12:17pm
build a quiver ..the speed is not a noserider .. maybe 5 over on a good day ,:)
Sandsy1
Sandsy1
NSW
814 posts
NSW, 814 posts
30 Jan 2020 4:16pm
Sorry kids. Noseriding is 5 or 10 over the edge, not a foot back from the front! Get a Black and Blue!
Bighugg
Bighugg
498 posts
498 posts
30 Jan 2020 9:16pm
Sandsy1 said..
Sorry kids. Noseriding is 5 or 10 over the edge, not a foot back from the front! Get a Black and Blue!




Its a log with a Spoon, different critter altogether
supthecreek
supthecreek
2760 posts
2760 posts
31 Jan 2020 12:01am
Sandsy1 said..
Sorry kids. Noseriding is 5 or 10 over the edge, not a foot back from the front! Get a Black and Blue!


Lots of ways to ride the nose.... it is not owned exclusively by the toes over folks.

I like "surfing" from the nose, not toes over, but fading, climbing, dropping and stalling, all without stepping off the nose....
on boards that are not designed for one purpose only.... but ridden as the moment calls for.
Rail control from the nose is a different kind of game and a lot of fun to play.

Also fun to put a foot on the nose of a pointy performance board as well.
Just enjoy it. .... don't lay claim to it.









colas
colas
5379 posts
5379 posts
31 Jan 2020 3:04am
Sandsy1 said..
Sorry kids. Noseriding is 5 or 10 over the edge, not a foot back from the front!


Toes over the nose do not mean anything. Noseriding is using the full nose of your board to plane on it.

Bighugg
Bighugg
498 posts
498 posts
31 Jan 2020 4:52am
supthecreek said..

Sandsy1 said..
Sorry kids. Noseriding is 5 or 10 over the edge, not a foot back from the front! Get a Black and Blue!



Lots of ways to ride the nose.... it is not owned exclusively by the toes over folks.

I like "surfing" from the nose, not toes over, but fading, climbing, dropping and stalling, all without stepping off the nose....
on boards that are not designed for one purpose only.... but ridden as the moment calls for.
Rail control from the nose is a different kind of game and a lot of fun to play.

Also fun to put a foot on the nose of a pointy performance board as well.
Just enjoy it. .... don't lay claim to it.










Choice..... this is why we Sup.... so we can walk the whole board..
Just go for it sneak it when you can
mollydooka
mollydooka
WA
252 posts
WA, 252 posts
1 Feb 2020 9:35am
Neat nose-riding on a nine-foot Infinity
lam
lam
VIC
263 posts
lam lam
VIC, 263 posts
1 Feb 2020 5:55pm
Sandsy1 said..
Sorry kids. Noseriding is 5 or 10 over the edge, not a foot back from the front! Get a Black and Blue!


Surfing is all about perception, if you think your ripping you are. If your not, what does it matter as long as you think you are.
Sandsy1
Sandsy1
NSW
814 posts
NSW, 814 posts
4 Feb 2020 1:51pm
Bighugg said..

Sandsy1 said..
Sorry kids. Noseriding is 5 or 10 over the edge, not a foot back from the front! Get a Black and Blue!





Its a log with a Spoon, different critter altogether


No concave. Always a flat bottom.
Sandsy1
Sandsy1
NSW
814 posts
NSW, 814 posts
6 Feb 2020 11:16am
You lot as so precious. I was taking the piss!
Australian humour for the other countries
MickMc
MickMc
VIC
456 posts
VIC, 456 posts
6 Feb 2020 2:47pm
Sandsy1 said..
You lot as so precious. I was taking the piss!
Australian humour for the other countries


Reel 'em in mate. Although you're joking, it is valid to say a nose riding board that can let you get toes over is a cut above one that let's you get up on the nose but not right to the tip.
Gboots
Gboots
NSW
1321 posts
NSW, 1321 posts
6 Feb 2020 8:58pm
Sandsy1 said..
You lot as so precious. I was taking the piss!
Australian humour for the other countries


Don't take their piss Sandy ....could
lead to Corona Virus Strand 2
Sandsy1
Sandsy1
NSW
814 posts
NSW, 814 posts
7 Feb 2020 12:03pm
I must admit, I do have a custom Jimmy Lewis, Black and Blue at 10' x 30" x 4" 140 litres. Even at my intermediate level, I have had 10 over the front. The board did all the work, just a great design, purpose built for sup logging. Having said that, surfed sucky shoulder to head high point breaks, with heaps of down the line speed. Gotta love a single fin!!
Some small fun ones taken by #central coast board hire




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