Mahanumah said..

Rosscoe said..
Agree with everything you say Mahanumah - except the not voting comment. Everyone's right to vote has been, historically, a hard-won issue and in my humble opinion should not be frittered away, even if you don't like any of 'em.
And Mick, sure there have been stuff-ups by the Vic government - but the virus has escaped quarantine in NSW, Qld, SA, WA and now the UK variant is also out in NZ. Do we blame Dan for all of this?

Ahhh.... I was hoping that the "Don't vote... It only encourages them" statement would be taken in the lighthearted context it was intended.

I agree wholeheartedly that the right to vote (and Australia's compulsory voting system) is vitally important and a great way to ensure we don't see the farce that happens in the USA with voter deregistering, court challenges and even the Orange one claiming he won.

As a Victorian, I think the Vic Government did a pretty good job up until this latest escape... this one just shows that somewhere in the process there's people who haven't learned from the previous mistakes. But at the same time I still think Dan Andrews and his team have done a far better job than we would ever see from Michael O'Brien. That guy couldn't organise a root in a brothel...

I totally agree with the above (as edited)!

If Michael O'Brien had been in charge we would have had a UK situation here.

Your on the money SupChickadee,
I feel where you are coming from, there's personal levels of stuff that's not going to make the stats pages or the media. So much of society's procedures and mechanisms crashed or were disjointedly slow to access .
For some reality, try Being a executor for someone who passed away interstate whilst your in Vic isolation , then another quarantine, then a biosecurity zone, trying to access the legal process in a timely manner was a nightmare. Try finding a young JP .
Then there is medical , where interstate surgeons flying in canceled 4 times due to outbreak uncertainties. Hopefully will get done this Friday . And we won't get a 3rd quarantine going back to work.

The good news is that we got to paddle MangoDingo's Creek and Green machine Search in Darwin, surf some waves with the local Sup crew then paddle down in SA in the same week.

The not so good observations on the drive from Darwin to Adelaide was the vibe of the remote reststop businesses, a few have shut, others are obviously seriously struggling. The towns also .That knock on effect at a distance. Spare a thought for those without UbaEats.

As for the Vic Governments handling of things, they are hands on giving it a go. Its whole new ball game. Catch up is hard to get right.
If you know any people in other States who work in their frontline services I'm sure they will tell you that their departments are packing it and constantly updating their policies and procedures . And trying to recruit and train people for future roles

As for State and federal politics and voting ??,
This seems like a year of getting back to basics ??
How about for the next 3-4 elections we bring it back to pure and simple ... 1 bloke = 1 vote ,
ditch the whole preferential mystery of whos fingers up whose bum.

And pretty please, finish your Vic lockdown in the next fortnight so we can come do LSR rehab down the surf coast

SupChickadee said..
I keep reading this thread and then wish i hadn't
Ask the families of the 800+ people who died in Vic their thoughts on how Vic has handled lockdown and at the very least exhibit some empathy for those families or even Vics. who's relatives passed during that time and only 10 people could attend the funeral etc. etc. etc.
Compare Vic to other Australian states, rather than Overseas. The other states have a mixture of different political parties and exponentially more success in handling Covid than Vic..........
I can tell you first hand that regarding contact tracing at the height of Vics Covid deaths, the Government was stating that they had enough contact traces early on, when in fact they were scrambling behind the scenes to get more contact tracers.
In the end people have different opinions, which we may not relate to or understand, but empathy to people who are facing extremely difficult times during this period is surely the least we could do and correct me if i'm wrong but i'm not feeling the empathy in this thread?
Happy supping folks and supping videos from other states, sharing the stoke would be much appreciated

You asked for people to correct you if your wrong, I feel you maybe. The fact that everyone who has contributed to this thread regardless of their opinions, have bothered to contribute, demonstrates their concern for the general population personally, emotionally, health wise and economically, shows empathy. Discussion and giving people an opportunity to express and hear others opinions, even if they clash with their own is a good thing. It is only when people get personal does it become unhealthy.

lam said..

SupChickadee said..
I keep reading this thread and then wish i hadn't
Ask the families of the 800+ people who died in Vic their thoughts on how Vic has handled lockdown and at the very least exhibit some empathy for those families or even Vics. who's relatives passed during that time and only 10 people could attend the funeral etc. etc. etc.
Compare Vic to other Australian states, rather than Overseas. The other states have a mixture of different political parties and exponentially more success in handling Covid than Vic..........
I can tell you first hand that regarding contact tracing at the height of Vics Covid deaths, the Government was stating that they had enough contact traces early on, when in fact they were scrambling behind the scenes to get more contact tracers.
In the end people have different opinions, which we may not relate to or understand, but empathy to people who are facing extremely difficult times during this period is surely the least we could do and correct me if i'm wrong but i'm not feeling the empathy in this thread?
Happy supping folks and supping videos from other states, sharing the stoke would be much appreciated

You asked for people to correct you if your wrong, I feel you maybe. The fact that everyone who has contributed to this thread regardless of their opinions, have bothered to contribute, demonstrates their concern for the general population personally, emotionally, health wise and economically, shows empathy. Discussion and giving people an opportunity to express and hear others opinions, even if they clash with their own is a good thing. It is only when people get personal does it become unhealthy.

Fair enough Iam and i certainly hope you are correct. Love and supping make the world a better place

We're out, but Mick is fully right in posting his opinions.
Don't look if you don't want to read.
My opinion of Dan would probably not be helpful here.
But don't tell us ****ing well done for some thing we had no choice in.

Mahanumah said..


As a Victorian, I think the Vic Government did a pretty good job up until this latest escape... this one just shows that somewhere in the process there's people who haven't learned from the previous mistakes. But at the same time I still think Dan Andrews and his team have done a far better job than we would ever see from Michael O'Brien. That guy couldn't organise a root in a brothel...

At the end of the day, hotels are not designed for infection control. Infections can and do enter and escape from hospitals, environments that are designed to prevent this. So it's really not surprising that it's escaping hotels.

lam said..

Nozza said..
We're out, but Mick is fully right in posting his opinions.
Don't look if you don't want to read.
My opinion of Dan would probably not be helpful here.
But don't tell us ****ing well done for some thing we had no choice in.

Like most things in life, nozza, you can choose to do the right thing or the wrong thing, presumably you chose to do the right thing. Well done!

Again, don't tell me I did the right thing when I had no choice over what I did.
We Victorians have not made "A tremendouus effort"
We have been treated ike criminals for leaving our homes.
My opinion of Dan may be seeping out.................