so as far as I can work out there is no SUPA affiliated club on the gold coast is this correct,

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kiakaha said...

In the States & Hawaii every 2nd race is a World Championship. This is a new Association so it is running its own State & Australian Title.

I'm confused, are you saying that it's a good thing that every second race is a world championship? If not, why should we follow that model? And if so, and furthering your line of logic, do you agree that it's okay for teatree to set up a third state title, as long as he also establishes a new association?

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kiakaha said...
Don't like it don't show up!!!! pretty simple.

Yes, but isn't that what we're trying to avoid? A state titles where no-one shows up? (no smiley face this time, I'm quite concerned about this part)

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petedorries said...

How are the waves in Canberra?
I'de like to enter that one

Hope you'll come down to the Melbourne surf event straight after. We're expecting massive barrels in the bay.

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micksmith said...

If SUPA is organising the Queensland state titles does this mean they will also organise state titles in the other states. I like the Divisions and I particularly like the entry conditions (non member), excellent work

They have put it out to the clubs, so the SUP clubs organise the day. I know NSW will be having an event on the 22nd - 23rd October.

Check out there Calendar I am sure there will be one down Vicco way

http://www.sup-australia.com/events/supa-titles-schedule

I'm a member of both Vicco clubs. Anyone have any idea which club they have organising the events in early January? There's nothing about it on either club's website.

funny how the people running events have vested interests. surfing aus is a non-profit gig?

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funny how the people running events have vested interests. surfing aus is a non-profit gig?

It's an interesting point you make - certainly Surfing Aus is a not for profit association and I doubtthey make any money from the national titles but presumably they are required to report their financial position relating to each event they stage in their annual reporting at an AGM. Anyone know?

Also, until we know who SUPA really are, we can't compare vested interests. Maybe they have vested interests, maybe they don't. Who knows?

It is fascinating in a sense relating to the whole pimping issue that gets raised regularly, and the mooted suggestion on that score that people should disclose their affiliation to brands and stores.

Likewise, perhaps if anyone comes on the 'breeze and pumps up the tyres of either Surfing Australia or SUPA, or even if they ask a faux naif Dorothy Dix question despite being close personal friends etc, then they should disclose their relationship to that association.

I don't get what the whinging people want? ????????

You want comps, then when people put them on and you don't turn up or complain it is the wrong organisation, or someone running a commercial business is using it to raise their profile... for Fa Huck sake get over and just support the sport for the reason you got into it. IT"S FUN..... unless you got into it to be a whinging bitch, then continue as you are :)

If you don't like it dont turn up.. If you want to make it better well do something about it... sitting here wacking keys in anger and making petty comments won't help... No one will hand it to you, you get out what you put in.... IE look at longboard comps all started form small club comps & yes well done SUPA, Surfing oz & any retailers, manufacturer for supporting events.

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SP said...

What do you people want? ????????

You want comps, then when people put them on and you don't turn up or complain it is the wrong organisation, or someone running a commercial business is using it to raise their profile... for Fa Huck sake get over and just support the sport for the reason you got into it. IT"S FUN..... unless you got into it to be a whinging bitch, then continue as you are :)

If you don't like it dont turn up.. If you want to make it better well do something about it... sitting here wacking keys in anger and making petty comments won't help... No one will hand it to you, you get out what you put in.... IE look at longboard comps all started form small club comps..

Have to agree with that

Just wish the WA comp was down south I might have a chance then.

Courts any chance of a surf comp with the Australia Day Challenge???? the east coast guys would be over so we could show them how to surf real waves

well said SP

So until we know more...

More races to do.GREAT
and
Might have a go at the surfing. Should be fun

And DANG now have to change the date of our Currumbin BOP/Training Day so as not to clash
Enough negativity out there from some of the locals as it is...
So we'll go with the flow
Pete

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I don't get what the whinging people want? ????????

You want comps, then when people put them on and you don't turn up or complain it is the wrong organisation, or someone running a commercial business is using it to raise their profile... for Fa Huck sake get over and just support the sport for the reason you got into it. IT"S FUN..... unless you got into it to be a whinging bitch, then continue as you are :)

If you don't like it dont turn up.. If you want to make it better well do something about it... sitting here wacking keys in anger and making petty comments won't help... No one will hand it to you, you get out what you put in.... IE look at longboard comps all started form small club comps & yes well done SUPA, Surfing oz & any retailers, manufacturer for supporting events.

TRANSPARENCY IS ALL I WOULD LIKE not whinging just making valid points and asking questions.

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TRANSPARENCY IS ALL I WOULD LIKE not whinging just making valid points and asking questions.

Yeah sure transparency is good although I think it matters less who SUPA is when it comes to running events. I go to races staged by shops. Obviously there's a vested interest with the organisers of those events.

However I take your point where it relates to SUPA establishing themselves (or attempting to) as the peak body for the sport of Stand Up Paddleboarding. If we stood back and allowed that to happen, only to discover that SUPA is really a specific brand distributor and then all competition decisions favour that brand, that would kind of suck, no?

Dont shoot me here with all the different bodies being formed does this mean we could have two of three state and national champions running around town at the same time

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So how do the races work.
And what style over two days wil that encompass?
thanks

Peter

Peter, I'm checking their website and I see that each state titles event has 3 races - a downwind race, a long course race and a short course race. I would have assumed that the short course race was a BOP style, but then discovered this elsewhere on the website...


"The flat water short course race offers an opportunity for people to compete without requiring super athletic skills. This is similar to Sydney's famous city to surf fun run that attracts novices to the elite professionals."


So the short course is to be held in flat water and catering for novices. And therefore it seems like SUPA is not interested in BOP style racing. Peter, I know that BOP style is something that interests you. I understand from Kiakaha's posting that SUPA listens to what paddlers want. I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I suspect many people would like to see a BOP race included.

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62mac said...

Dont shoot me here with all the different bodies being formed does this mean we could have two of three state and national champions running around town at the same time

Don't fret, News Ltd will buy out both and reunite the sport. Hopefully they insert one of their corporate monkeys as the CEO to run SUP as well as they do their other business interests.

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I don't get what the whinging people want? ????????

You want comps, then when people put them on and you don't turn up or complain it is the wrong organisation, or someone running a commercial business is using it to raise their profile... for Fa Huck sake get over and just support the sport for the reason you got into it. IT"S FUN..... unless you got into it to be a whinging bitch, then continue as you are :)

If you don't like it dont turn up.. If you want to make it better well do something about it... sitting here wacking keys in anger and making petty comments won't help... No one will hand it to you, you get out what you put in.... IE look at longboard comps all started form small club comps & yes well done SUPA, Surfing oz & any retailers, manufacturer for supporting events.

Welcome to Seabreeze.......

While there seems to be a common theme from most here, it does not represent SUP as a whole. Seabreeze is a big virtual world, but about as big in reality as SUP is...... I totally agree that the individual has to make the effort, ie compete, so the interest is there for comps to be run. But I also agree with the likes of Rollo, as in who is behind this and why.

If the WA one is in Mandurah in summer I mite.........

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SP said...

What do you people want? ????????

You want comps, then when people put them on and you don't turn up or complain it is the wrong organisation, or someone running a commercial business is using it to raise their profile... for Fa Huck sake get over and just support the sport for the reason you got into it. IT"S FUN..... unless you got into it to be a whinging bitch, then continue as you are :)

If you don't like it dont turn up.. If you want to make it better well do something about it... sitting here wacking keys in anger and making petty comments won't help... No one will hand it to you, you get out what you put in.... IE look at longboard comps all started form small club comps..

Have to agree with that

Just wish the WA comp was down south I might have a chance then.

Courts any chance of a surf comp with the Australia Day Challenge???? the east coast guys would be over so we could show them how to surf real waves

Hilly I think the SUPA events are hosted by local clubs and given that the Mandurah Club is the only one in WA that is why it is there. Having investigated setting up a club in Perth with the intention of having comps at various locations the reason they may be limited to Mandurah is due to council permits as a club generally has to be run out of a single location. But definitely agree would be much better if it was going to be held somewhere other than Mandurah.

Hey if its not BOP and just loops around a lake or up and back a few times same same.
Its getting out there and racing and introducing people in a safe, non-threatening environment (that the ocean can be)
Plus great again for the spectators

Rollo, you went the target, asking questions and making valid points is not whinging, it's how things improve. Agree 100% on transparency. Nothing worse than a self interest group or party trying to make a quick buck out of it (not aimed at SUPA) but as Pete said more events is a good thing and I guess my point is if you don't like the organizer or sponsor then just choose not to support that event and if the majority agree with you then the event will most likely fail anyway.

Yes I realize the catch 22, in the above comment... how can you choose not to go if you don't know who is behind it... So 100% your on the money with transparency.

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Hey if its not BOP and just loops around a lake or up and back a few times same same.
Its getting out there and racing and introducing people in a safe, non-threatening environment (that the ocean can be)
Plus great again for the spectators

thats great idea mate. my girl would love to be a part of something,race results dont really matter to her, but trying to get her in the surf...well good luck

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62mac said...

Dont shoot me here with all the different bodies being formed does this mean we could have two of three state and national champions running around town at the same time

If you are going to call your selves surfers, then wouldnt it come under Surfing Australia's banner?

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Hey if its not BOP and just loops around a lake or up and back a few times same same.
Its getting out there and racing and introducing people in a safe, non-threatening environment (that the ocean can be)
Plus great again for the spectators

I guess we'll wait and see what they have in mind. No objection to a safe flat water race, but it would be good to also have a BOP race if it's going to be called state titles. After all, the downwind race is probably less than 10% chance of actually being true downwind conditions for most locations so it would be good to do something that is genuinely an elite race. BOP is it for my money.

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I don't get what the whinging people want? ????????

You want comps, then when people put them on and you don't turn up or complain it is the wrong organisation, or someone running a commercial business is using it to raise their profile... for Fa Huck sake get over and just support the sport for the reason you got into it. IT"S FUN..... unless you got into it to be a whinging bitch, then continue as you are :)

If you don't like it dont turn up.. If you want to make it better well do something about it... sitting here wacking keys in anger and making petty comments won't help... No one will hand it to you, you get out what you put in.... IE look at longboard comps all started form small club comps & yes well done SUPA, Surfing oz & any retailers, manufacturer for supporting events.

have to agree with this.

There was a thread awhile back about comps and a lot of people posted that they would like the clubs to be running the events and be the backbone to the 'peak' body. In my investigation it seems that what SUPA is. It is being run by clubs and their members. All members will get voting rights for who will sit on the board and run the organization. (no word of a lie Rollo) So it doesn't get much transparent than that and no doubt those nominated will come up on the breeze at some stage.
Unfortunately you don't see this in SA. Members don't get any say what so ever and the major backer of SA is GSI......

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There was a thread awhile back about comps and a lot of people posted that they would like the clubs to be running the events and be the backbone to the 'peak' body. In my investigation it seems that what SUPA is. It is being run by clubs and their members. All members will get voting rights for who will sit on the board and run the organization. (no word of a lie Rollo) So it doesn't get much transparent than that and no doubt those nominated will come up on the breeze at some stage.
Unfortunately you don't see this in SA. Members don't get any say what so ever and the major backer of SA is GSI......

The major backer of Surfing Australia is GSI? That one is way off the mark.

The major backer of SA is the Australian Sports Comission in recognition of the many world titles their system has produced.

Other than Noosa Festival which is ran by the Noosa Club not Surfing Qld if I am correct. has GSI actually sponsored any events? DHD sponsors the High performance centre.

Other than that, I agree with your post. It should be from the clubs.

At the end of 2012 I'll be hosting a party for ALL the State and National Champions.

I'm expecting a massive turn out.

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At the end of 2012 I'll be hosting a party for ALL the State and National Champions.

I'm expecting a massive turn out.

Im happy to offer my services as head of leg rope securtity

here is something for the likes of SUPA and kiakaha to think about....how many here on Seabreeze, that are responding to these threads actually compete at a state or national level, or are good enough to??? I know I am NOT...not in surf or race. Surf would be a waste of the comps time if I went in and well race im interested but only as fun in the surf, so no need for the state or national stuff (at which i would place last anyway).....food for thought regarding the responses I guess