hey all, looking to get a really small SUP board in the sub 7'0 range, can anyone help?

How small?

smaller then 7'0, maybe 6'6 by 24
Southwesterly

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arka said..

hey all, looking to get a really small SUP board in the sub 7'0 #, can anyone help?

for 6'6 by 24 you would probably have to go custom i would probably look at a Laguna Bay or DTM etc haven't seen them really do boards that small but they probably would , none of the companies that i know of are making them that small, starboard have a couple of boards but nothing under 7 foot, the starboard pro is the only board that is really that wide also

http://www.star-board-sup.com/2014/products/boards/surf_pro--7-1-x24-pro

www.star-board-sup.com/2014/products/boards/surf_fish--7-4-x28-5-air-born

hope this helps

Jarryd

Get one of them crazy lie-down boards, all the kids are riding them these days

thanks guys much appreciated! Jradedmondo Chris_M

Try to find a shaper who's made small boards before. The SUP groms have them made by local shapers then rebrand them to look like their sponsor's boards. So ask them who actually made it, then have that shaper make one for you. If you're cool with shipping, Pat Rawson in Hawaii has made a bunch of these, as has Dave Daum (King's SUP) in California.

But I'm sure you can find someone closer to home who's made grom SUPs.

I think that for an adult you can't go smaller than the 7'1 and 7'4 from Starboard (I've tried them at Starboard's dealer meeting). But if you're really a light rider you can do as Vanina Walsh and ride one of the new Starboard surfboards: the ULTRA 6'4 x 21 1/2 x 3 1/8 (51 ltr)

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Souselas said..
I think that for an adult you can't go smaller than the 7'1 and 7'4

Arg, you should have warned me beforehand! With my 95kg what I am going to do with my 6'8" boards? :-)

Seriously, arka, when you are considering short boards, you enter a world where every shape detail count. First your weight, size and the kind of waves and type of surf you want to do on them. As JeanG said, the most important thing is to find a shaper that has already a good experience on short SUPs (and if possible riding them himself). Short SUPs are special beasts, they are not just scaled down SUPs nor scaled up prone surfboards.

For instance I have two 6'8" a 6'10", and another 6'8" coming (and a 6;'10" mini simmons), all very different in feeling.

awesome guys thanks so much for your help,will be sure to look into all of the options you have mentioned ;-)

If you go small (under 7'0) you'll really need a super thick board in order to float and you'll lose rail to rail ability and won't be able to do a proper top to bottom surf. I saw some videos of a heavy french guy SUPing in one of those tiny and super thick SUP (was it you Colas? With a Gong baord?) and it seemed really fun in small to tiny surf but not good for medium power waves. I think they will probably work well in mini simmons or fish concepts.

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Souselas said..

If you go small (under 7'0) you'll really need a super thick board in order to float and you'll lose rail to rail ability and won't ...

Please, do not propagate preconceptions.
The behavior of a board depends on its shape. Just like you saw me on youtube with a 6'8" board specifically designed for LOWER than waist-high weak - 5s period - waves (wide option 31.5"), you can have sub-7' boards designed for more powerful conditions, for instance Mika at Punta Preta: www.gong-galaxy.com/magazine/pics/mika-en-6-10/ (medium width option 28.5")... or the recent video of Noah Yap on his 7'1" (narrow width option: 24")

These boards can have thin or thick rails, depending on the shape. And you would be suprised anyways on how a well-designed high volume rail can hold anyways... and a badly shaped thin one can't :-)

You wouldn't believe how different sub-7' can be one from each other until you try them. The only common caracteristic is that they are slow as hell to paddle :-)

Hi Colas. I don't want to propagate preconceptions. I started SUP on a 11'0 NSP and been downsizing ever since. I love the small SUPs performance and I think "tiny" has a great future in the SUP world, especially for really young riders or pro riders. I have a young son (3 years old) and I'm going to teach him SUP in a 5'8 AMP Starboard surfboard this summer. Hope it works well!

Here's a great example for the way to go!

Souselas, nice! It will be good to see more pics & vids of her, if only to encourage other kids to try...

Sorry if I over-reacted, but I have so many times that "Short SUPs can only dishpan" by people never having tried them that it tends to get on my nerves quick... but I see it is not your case :-)

think you will need a wave that pitches otherwise you'll probably not get many waves on the small SUPs. If your waves are slack and flat then maybe not the best choice.

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colas said..

Souselas said..

If you go small (under 7'0) you'll really need a super thick board in order to float and you'll lose rail to rail ability and won't ...

Please, do not propagate preconceptions.
The behavior of a board depends on its shape. Just like you saw me on youtube with a 6'8" board specifically designed for LOWER than waist-high weak - 5s period - waves (wide option 31.5"), you can have sub-7' boards designed for more powerful conditions, for instance Mika at Punta Preta: www.gong-galaxy.com/magazine/pics/mika-en-6-10/ (medium width option 28.5")... or the recent video of Noah Yap on his 7'1" (narrow width option: 24")

These boards can have thin or thick rails, depending on the shape. And you would be suprised anyways on how a well-designed high volume rail can hold anyways... and a badly shaped thin one can't :-)

You wouldn't believe how different sub-7' can be one from each other until you try them. The only common caracteristic is that they are slow as hell to paddle :-)

i think noah efforts at 75 kgs on a board that short and narrow is exceptional. here is photo of the board size against noah.

You'd be surprised. At 73kg, I ride a 7'6x25 and it's pretty stable even in moderately rough conditions. It's just practice. Practice and the willingness to spend a lot of time falling!

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JeanG said..

You'd be surprised. At 73kg, I ride a 7'6x25 and it's pretty stable even in moderately rough conditions. It's just practice. Practice and the willingness to spend a lot of time falling!

You right, paddling on a shortSUP is like learning to paddle on a pushbike, once you take off the side wheels you get used to the balance for lifetime

speaking of short sups, just ran into a mate who has been on the shorter and shorter sup road for the past 2 years- hasn't been one a sup for 3 months now- kind of over tripping around. he 'll probably read this.


just a warning -if you keep going shorter and shorter disinterest can sneak up on you one day when you realise it is kind of stupid to be paddling a tiny board. reward for the effort is over rated




flame on

The effort is it's own reward.

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JeanG said..

The effort is it's own reward.

you may change your mind about that one day, enjoy

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laceys lane said..

JeanG said..

The effort is it's own reward.

you may change your mind about that one day, enjoy

In France we use to say:

Dont matter the size of it, the matter to use it is the most important.

So stay with your long one , I enjoy mine forever and i feel pretty good

haha, my long one is 12'6

funny enough, when i've been surfing my 12'6 and go back to my prone short boards the feeling and method is the same.


when i used to go back from my short sups back to prone short boards i had all sorts of trouble- but that would be another debate between kami and myself

I guess that's why quivers exist... for different conditions and more importantly different moods. I still like SUP long (8'3") boards from time to time, variety is the spice of your se... sup life :-)