quad fins for fanatic pro wave 8'9'' 2015

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Feps
Feps
NSW
108 posts
NSW, 108 posts
28 Nov 2015 7:28pm
Recently downsized from 8'11'' Allwave to a 8'9'' Prowave Ltd (Fanatic) - and loving it. Can anyone recommend quad fins for the 2015 model (futures). Note sure if the future boxes are shallow or deep. Rider 85kg, shortboarder, beach and point breaks on the central coast, NSW.
Feps
Feps
NSW
108 posts
NSW, 108 posts
5 Dec 2015 10:10pm
ok, anyone tried VP or JM Futures as a quad in the prowave?
JBFletch
JBFletch
QLD
1287 posts
QLD, 1287 posts
13 Dec 2015 9:11am
Hi mate,

I find the new prowave works well with the Kinetic Racing X4 set it future box.

The front fins are pretty big for me, but the trailers work well with my machado thruster fronts.
Bit of mix and match but it works
Zeusman
Zeusman
QLD
1363 posts
QLD, 1363 posts
13 Dec 2015 2:10pm



I used these in my 9'2" Prowave. Awesome




Zeusman
Zeusman
QLD
1363 posts
QLD, 1363 posts
13 Dec 2015 2:11pm
And now use them
In my 9'0" custom
Feps
Feps
NSW
108 posts
NSW, 108 posts
13 Dec 2015 9:30pm
Thanks JBFletch - I will check them out. Loving the prowave!
Cheers
Feps
Feps
NSW
108 posts
NSW, 108 posts
13 Dec 2015 9:39pm
Cheers Zeusman. I had read your post before and have been keen to try out the Firewire quad set. I am finding the original thruster works great for me, but keen to surf a quad setup (haven't been there yet:)

Many thanks
CAUTION
CAUTION
WA
1097 posts
WA, 1097 posts
14 Dec 2015 9:36am
i dont ride a prowave, but have been playing with quads in my 8 footer Jimmy Lewis. Found larger fronts (VP V8's) give it that bit more drive and speed.
Currently using flat foil rears, waiting for osme shapers 80/20's to arrive to see if there is a difference. again tho play around and try different combos.
Prob is price of fins arent cheap so good luck.
Do check your boxes tho, as for example think the VP are all deep where my JL has the shallow rears.
Feps
Feps
NSW
108 posts
NSW, 108 posts
14 Dec 2015 9:00pm
Yeah, thanks for that. Have read a few posts about depth of boxes with the prowave. Still on the original fins...who knows what Mrs santa clause may bring (or approve:)
riverider
riverider
TAS
1112 posts
TAS, 1112 posts
14 Dec 2015 9:06pm
When you buy a "standard" set of quad fins, the front ones will have a 3/4" base and the rear will have a 1/2" base.
Feps
Feps
NSW
108 posts
NSW, 108 posts
1 May 2016 8:08pm
Hi zeusman
took some time but now have a quad set of firewires on my prowave - totally new board! hard to put in words, but super loose on the wave in a total control! Tight turns/snaps that feel like they slingshot you into the next move with speed to boot, yet able to do long drawn out arc on cutbacks with a greater sense of control than previous thruster setup. Thanks zeusman...totally stoked??
Brenno
Brenno
QLD
907 posts
QLD, 907 posts
3 May 2016 5:00pm
Hi Fepsi.
Added these to my 8'8" Deep and made it faster and looser than it already was.
Had a ball this morning in some full tide beach breaks....





bobajob
bobajob
QLD
1535 posts
QLD, 1535 posts
3 May 2016 6:01pm
Fepsi said..
Recently downsized from 8'11'' Allwave to a 8'9'' Prowave Ltd (Fanatic) - and loving it. Can anyone recommend quad fins for the 2015 model (futures). Note sure if the future boxes are shallow or deep. Rider 85kg, shortboarder, beach and point breaks on the central coast, NSW.


How do you find the pro compared to the all? I've just upsized to the 9.1 allwave for "ease of use" for smaller or bumpier days. So was wondering if the Prowave in the similar size would make a two board covers most things quiver. Also have just received a set of quads to see if it will give it a tad more drive - not that its slow as a thruster, but I reccon there are times it should be a bit quicker to make sections.
Antho
Antho
VIC
516 posts
VIC, 516 posts
3 May 2016 7:05pm
Ditto on the CDrives, although I use them in a thruster set up, the go unreal. The are well worth investigating and Troy at CDrive is really helpful. Good luck, changing fins always changes the way your board goes and is quite addictive!


colas
colas
5379 posts
5379 posts
3 May 2016 6:18pm
True, once you taste the "afterburner" feeling of C-drives in a bottom turn, you get hooked!
Feps
Feps
NSW
108 posts
NSW, 108 posts
3 May 2016 8:53pm
hey BRenno those c drives look unreal. any suggestions on finding more info on them.
Loz79
Loz79
QLD
459 posts
QLD, 459 posts
3 May 2016 9:02pm
colas said...
True, once you taste the "afterburner" feeling of C-drives in a bottom turn, you get hooked!


Do you really get that feeling from the c drives colas??, I have a couple of sets that I have only tried as a quad on a big board I used to have, wonder now if i should try in my 7.10 JC deep as a thruster??
Feps
Feps
NSW
108 posts
NSW, 108 posts
3 May 2016 9:31pm
bobajob said..

Fepsi said..
Recently downsized from 8'11'' Allwave to a 8'9'' Prowave Ltd (Fanatic) - and loving it. Can anyone recommend quad fins for the 2015 model (futures). Note sure if the future boxes are shallow or deep. Rider 85kg, shortboarder, beach and point breaks on the central coast, NSW.



How do you find the pro compared to the all? I've just upsized to the 9.1 allwave for "ease of use" for smaller or bumpier days. So was wondering if the Prowave in the similar size would make a two board covers most things quiver. Also have just received a set of quads to see if it will give it a tad more drive - not that its slow as a thruster, but I reccon there are times it should be a bit quicker to make sections.


Hi bobajob, when I got my prowave I initially wished I had kept the allwave for those choppy, messy days. catching waves is much easier on the allwave...can catch absolutely anything on almost any angle. In comparison, the prowave takes abit more work to get into position and balance in general, but once use to it, really pays off in the surf. rail to rail, floaters, backhand and generating speed so much easier on prowave. I only have the 1 board so I am use to the prowave in a range of waves and conditions - but sometimes miss a few if conditions are rough. I think having same size in allwave and prowave would certainly cover a few bases, but as always, recommend doing a demo on a few boards. Hope this helps, good luck
Brenno
Brenno
QLD
907 posts
QLD, 907 posts
4 May 2016 10:25am
Fepsi said...
hey BRenno those c drives look unreal. any suggestions on finding more info on them.


troy.cdrvfins@gmail.com
Brenno
Brenno
QLD
907 posts
QLD, 907 posts
4 May 2016 10:29am
Loz79 said...
colas said...
True, once you taste the "afterburner" feeling of C-drives in a bottom turn, you get hooked!


Do you really get that feeling from the c drives colas??, I have a couple of sets that I have only tried as a quad on a big board I used to have, wonder now if i should try in my 7.10 JC deep as a thruster??


I would. I used to use them as a thruster in my JP pro before it died, unreal. Just bought this 5 fin set with futures bases so i can use them as a quad or thruster in my deep boards, depending on the conditions.
Zeusman
Zeusman
QLD
1363 posts
QLD, 1363 posts
4 May 2016 6:38pm
Fepsi said..
Cheers Zeusman. I had read your post before and have been keen to try out the Firewire quad set. I am finding the original thruster works great for me, but keen to surf a quad setup (haven't been there yet:)

Many thanks


Unreal!! Glad to hear they're working for you. I still use them and reckon they're fantastic for SUP.
NakiSup
NakiSup
5 posts
5 posts
5 May 2016 11:51am
Hi Brenno'
fins look amazing, what size are they, and they look all the same size?
Been waiting for Troy to get some futures box fins made. I have the plain black fins in FCS, what do they call those colorful fins?

...........Shorty.
colas
colas
5379 posts
5379 posts
5 May 2016 5:02pm
Fepsi said..
hey BRenno those c drives look unreal. any suggestions on finding more info on them.


www.cdrivefins.com/
www.facebook.com/cdrivefins
colas
colas
5379 posts
5379 posts
5 May 2016 5:11pm
Loz79 said..
Do you really get that feeling from the c drives colas??,


Yes, but you must push on them to feel the "squirt", so I don't think they work on bigger (>8') boards, as in my experience they tend to make the board too stiff, unless you are out in solid conditions where you can push an 8'+ board in turns.

In a nutshell, if you can "pump" your board, it means your gear can benefit from the C-Drive.

Also, they have a lot of grip at low speed, which helps a lot for SUPs while paddling for a wave, you can master the row more easily. Plus the reduced area speeds up the U-Turns in front of an incoming wave for these late take offs.

The only drawbacks I found were:
- maybe a bit more drag than optimally foiled fins such as the FCS Nexus
- some people are put off by the transition between extra grip on the bottom but looseness at the top
- quad setup can be tricky. Rear C-Drives can make some quads too stiff. In this case, just use C-Drives only for the front fins.
Note that it can help on long boards, too: I have 2 C-Drive in the front on my 8'4", but a central rear nexus to loosen it a bit
Loz79
Loz79
QLD
459 posts
QLD, 459 posts
5 May 2016 8:11pm
colas said..

Loz79 said..
Do you really get that feeling from the c drives colas??,



Yes, but you must push on them to feel the "squirt", so I don't think they work on bigger (>8') boards, as in my experience they tend to make the board too stiff, unless you are out in solid conditions where you can push an 8'+ board in turns.

In a nutshell, if you can "pump" your board, it means your gear can benefit from the C-Drive.

Also, they have a lot of grip at low speed, which helps a lot for SUPs while paddling for a wave, you can master the row more easily. Plus the reduced area speeds up the U-Turns in front of an incoming wave for these late take offs.

The only drawbacks I found were:
- maybe a bit more drag than optimally foiled fins such as the FCS Nexus
- some people are put off by the transition between extra grip on the bottom but looseness at the top
- quad setup can be tricky. Rear C-Drives can make some quads too stiff. In this case, just use C-Drives only for the front fins.
Note that it can help on long boards, too: I have 2 C-Drive in the front on my 8'4", but a central rear nexus to loosen it a bit


Thanks Colas, i will definately be trying them this weekend. I'm riding a 7.10 x 27.5 x 4 Deep JC model at around the 94 litre mark. Ive been using Shapers S7 Carbon Stealth in thruster. I used to run quads all the time but changed over to thruster, took me a few sessions to get used to it but i dont think i would change back now. I like getting on rail and the tightness of my turns without dispans that the thruster gives me..ill post my results with the c drive..thanks again
waynehh
waynehh
VIC
9 posts
VIC, 9 posts
16 May 2016 10:22pm
Have just changed my prowave to a quad made the board turns better but has lost speed not gained any board feels slow to paddle and can't make sections like it can as a thruster
Brenno
Brenno
QLD
907 posts
QLD, 907 posts
17 May 2016 2:16pm
Tried this combo out in some nice peaky waves (not at my local) over the weekend on my JC 9'2". Agree with Colas, looser top turn, nice drive up out of the bottom.



Feps
Feps
NSW
108 posts
NSW, 108 posts
17 May 2016 8:37pm
waynehh said..
Have just changed my prowave to a quad made the board turns better but has lost speed not gained any board feels slow to paddle and can't make sections like it can as a thruster


had a few surfs as a quad (FireWire futures)...love the quads when there is a bit of grunt in the swell/sucky and fast sections. i swapped back to thruster setup when a weak swell dropped and found much Easier to get vert (kinda). still early days in exploring fins but change in setup makes quite a difference Depending on conditions.
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