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first SUP, advise for a surfer pls!

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jonhdz
jonhdz

2 posts

17 Aug 2013 7:25pm
Hey guys! Lots of info on here but in still lost!

In a surfer, who's turn 30 and want to try SUP.

In 1'80 and 77kg

I usually Surf a 6'2 board and im ok surfer not a pro.

I would like an all rounder SUP will mostly use it in small days when surfing is not fun due to size and to paddle arround with my wife.

My first idea is on the fanatic all wave, are they good all rounders? I was thinking on 8'10 for me but not sure if I should go longer...

Will an 8'10 be enough to do excursions? Or Will it be too small? I think most of time I will take it out for small waves up to 4' but . Want to do half day trips with my wife aswell, for her i though maybe an allwave 9'6 shes 62 kg

Thanks!
Mahanumah
Mahanumah

VIC

336 posts

17 Aug 2013 11:40pm
Mate... Have you ever been on a SUP before?

I've seen experienced surfers falling off my 11'4 nalu while I ride my wife's 9'1 Al Merrick.

SUPs are a totally different ball game. If you've never been on one then start big. And start on flat water until you get your "sea legs". It won't take long but if you don't do it you will struggle for a lot longer....
jonhdz
jonhdz

2 posts

17 Aug 2013 9:56pm
Hey thsnks for the answer!

Yes I rented a SUP a couple of times and got some small waves.

SUP are expensive to buy a beginner one and the 2 months later need a smaller one!

I need something that works for next year even if it means a slower start!

I used a 10' before with not much trouble
DavidJohn
DavidJohn

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17569 posts

18 Aug 2013 12:47am
IMO.. Something like the Naish 9'5'' Mana.. or similar in other brands.

DJ
bookersupa
bookersupa

NSW

4 posts

18 Aug 2013 10:53am
& before all, think thru whether you want a "longboard" or "fish" shape in your sup ... the above mentioned naish nalu & manu will give you an idea of the shapes out there.

& then if you want a "longboard" shape, whether you want "all over" deck grip (walden boards) ... nothing less glamorous than slipping on your arse whilst on the nose !!

& then if you want to try single or thruster setups !!

.... at your age & weight, a board no less than 160 litres.

cheers
TheGoodDr
TheGoodDr

SA

216 posts

18 Aug 2013 10:46am
There are so many second hand, well priced boards around. It's very easy to buy something to learn with and then move it on once you are ready to go smaller.
This way you will recoup most of your initial investment, won't be demoralised by starting too short too early, won't take a big hit financially by making the wrong choice first up and more than likely will keep the first board anyway for so many reasons.......can never have enough sups
Flying High
Flying High

NSW

217 posts

18 Aug 2013 10:42pm
Where do you start?
I was in a similar situation 7 months ago, just under 80 kg, 174 and about 20 years older.
It's difficult because the learning curve is steep, if you start with a board about 9' sub 30" you are going to struggle but after 6 months you will want something sub 9' and 28-30" less than 130 lt for the surf but that won't paddle that well for those days with your wife.
If you,only want one board, and that is the dilemma - then I agree with DJ, either the Mana 9'5", Hokua 9'5" or something similar. You can paddle them and surf them. If you go two boards something about the 10' x 30" to,paddle and then something about 8'10" 110-130 lt to surf.
If you want it to transition from rail to rail with that short board feel, at your weight i reckon you will need to go less than 30" wide.
I have found once they are 30" or wider at my weight it's hard to get that rail to dig in and they pivot off the tail. Obviously as the board goes shorter and thinner the rails are finer and more surf orientated.
I started with two boards now I have three and I like them all so be warned.
momasfolly
momasfolly

VIC

237 posts

18 Aug 2013 11:37pm
Agree with Flying high. Started three years ago with an 11 6. After 6 months dropped to a 9 6 All wave, super board that my wife now uses. The 11 6 is a flat water cruiser now ( though it has been out in 10-12 foot waves). My regular ride now is an 8 8 JP surf wide body that I absolutely love. It's addictive great fun. Be carefull you just might get hooked!
Leroy13
Leroy13

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1174 posts

19 Aug 2013 3:53am
Most of the guys are older on this forum and I feel sometimes s little conservative.There used to be a saying. Demo, demo, demo. I think that's what you ought to do. I reckon at your weight and age coupled iyh your experience you'd be buying something smaller really quickly if you go over 9. Try the 8'11" and 8'10" Widepoint just to check if they are big enough work up or down from their. the
Slab
Slab

1123 posts

19 Aug 2013 2:31am
There's a new 8ft 11 Allwave coming out - you'll be fine on it after a couple of months constant watertime....but these are surfing SUPs. YOu can paddle them on the flat but not fast that's for sure! I'm heavier than you and I have a 9ft 6 Allwave and in the surf it is a lot of fun - totally stable and a confidence builder and very easy to paddle from peak to peak no matter how choppy. Just when you are on a wave it feels a bit slow....more cruisey.

Most folk start out saying they want to surf and do a bit of flat water but in time most get a surf SUP and a flat water one.

If you want both I'd be very tempted with a Naish 10.6 as that to me looks a great longboard shape for lots of surf but also long enough for some flatwater if you really need to. To sort of SUP that is great to surf but also a nice length to get you A to B fast to try out other peaks along a wide beach. I've never surfed one but if I was after a one quiver board it would be high on the list.

More fun having a few SUPs though
Scottydc
Scottydc

NSW

73 posts

19 Aug 2013 8:53pm
Mate, I'm a similar size and weight range to yourself. I come from a short boarding background but hadn't really been getting in the water for a few years before i began supping. My first board was the 8'10" All wave. Its a great learner board and helped me to progress quite quickly, but after a few month's i was wanting something a bit shorter. If you are looking at the All Wave, I would check out the 8'6" as well, as it's probably going to be a board you could spend a bit more time growing into than the 8'10". Ive now dropped the Allwave and have two boards in my setup, a Starboard 8'2" carbon Widepoint that i surf when it gets to 3 foot and bigger and a Naish Nalu GT10'6.5" that i tend to use when it's a bit smaller. Both are awesome boards.. The fact that i went from the 8'10" to the 8'2" in around 8 months time shows how quickly you can progress to a shorter board. I was only going out on the weekends as well, so if you can get out a few times a week or more you could really cut that learning period down. In hindsight, if i was starting out again i would probably buy something like the Nalu first off, just because it would be a great board to learn on for those kooky first couple of months, then choose something shorter. If you want to do a bit of flat water cruising, the Nalu will be good and on smaller, fuller days, you'll really appreciate having something a bit longer to get you into waves. From there you might be able to get a second, shorter, performance orientated board that could maybe double as a flat water board for the wife.
Scott79
Scott79

QLD

209 posts

19 Aug 2013 10:07pm
Another Allwave recommendation from me mate. I was in a similar position 12 months ago and got the 9'2 Allwave, I am 83kgs, low 30's and plenty of shortboard experience, and couldn't have been happier with my choice.
Either 8'10 or 9'2 Allwave, IMO they have their volume well distributed for a beginners board, for someone with a surfing background especially. Manoeuverable length, plenty of width for stability, volume carried right to the rails etc, plenty of buoyancy - you will be able to catch anything. You will out grow it pretty quickly if you are on it regularly, but I think it will serve you well to get started.
For that reason I recommend trying to find one secondhand, they are pretty common, and are as tough as nails so after 6 or 12 months when you are looking to upgrade you shouldn't lose alot of money. It may even serve for your wife's board by then anyway. That probably goes for whatever you choose for a first board, the ideal first board probably isn't the board you will be looking for as soon as you have progressed a bit.

There are any number of boards that meet the above criteria, you can't really go wrong with your first board, as long as it has a bit of volume about it. I reckon the main thing when you start out is just getting a feel for the balance, learning a bit of paddling technique and getting used to the idea of surfing with a paddle.

Definitely not a distance paddling board, but it will easily get you on the flat water with your wife for general cruising about, until you get the bug a bit and realise you need 2 or 3 boards...

Good luck mate,
Scott.
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