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Windsurf Sup, how to start

Created by Kitemaster Kitemaster  > 9 months ago, 17 Mar 2014
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Kitemaster
Kitemaster

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17 Mar 2014 5:27am
Hi all,

I have 2 Naish Nalu's 11'6"and 10'6'5. I would like to try windsurf with these boards. I currently don't own any windsurf gear.
What would be a good size sail to use for light wind conditions? Does any one have suggestions.?
DavidJohn
DavidJohn

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17 Mar 2014 9:06am
5.2 - 5.7 IMO
westozwind
westozwind

WA

1416 posts

17 Mar 2014 8:39am
If you have. It windsurfed before, nothing over 5.0m.
Keep the rig as light as possible. You are not going to plane on a SUP, so no need to go big.
Piros
Piros

QLD

7251 posts

17 Mar 2014 3:32pm
I am a definite windsurf Kook and have no problems with a 5.5m sail on my 11.2 JP. Just remember it doesn't have to be blowing it's guts out to windsurf on a SUP , if the wind stops you don't sink

PS: don't worry about a harness until you have some control
DavidJohn
DavidJohn

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17 Mar 2014 4:41pm
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westozwind said..

If you have. It windsurfed before, nothing over 5.0m.
Keep the rig as light as possible. You are not going to plane on a SUP, so no need to go big.


Really.. .. This was with a 5.7 sail on a 10'10'' sup.. in only about 15 knots of wind..

I agree..You could go as small as 4.5 for learning.

GizzieNZ
GizzieNZ

4103 posts

17 Mar 2014 2:16pm
Great vid DJ....do all windsurfers use the hook thing on the waist ....or is that more a sup thing?
Some of us are quite unschooled in such matters but would like an education
HumanCartoon
HumanCartoon

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17 Mar 2014 5:25pm
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GizzieNZ said..

Great vid DJ....do all windsurfers use the hook thing on the waist ....or is that more a sup thing?
Some of us are quite unschooled in such matters but would like an education




Harness is necessary if you want to a) go moderately fast and b) do it for more than a few minutes, unless you've got forearms like Popeye ( or maybe we're all a bit soft this side if the ditch )
Sailhack
Sailhack

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17 Mar 2014 5:53pm
^^^ Just remember - harness with no footstraps or windsurfing experience and you're a prime candidate for showing onlookers what a catapault looks like!

DJ makes it look soooo easy.
HumanCartoon
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17 Mar 2014 6:16pm
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Sailhack said..

^^^ Just remember - harness with no footstraps or windsurfing experience and you're a prime candidate for showing onlookers what a catapault looks like!




Oooh yeah been there, back in the 80's my first harness wasn't much more than a PFD with a bar sewn onto it - the basterd thing used to ride up around my ears & a somersault was always just a wrong twitch away.

Picked up a pre-loved rig late last year and bolted it to onto one of my SUPs...it's been somewhere north of 20 years since I'd stepped on a sailboard and ffaaark it felt good, simple & sweet like the good ol' days . Got a nice new modern harness now, like a giant huggies nappy, and I'm a couple of decades worth of pies heavier so I reckon the catapult risk is somewhat reduced
GizzieNZ
GizzieNZ

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19 Mar 2014 1:55pm
Okay....thanks for the info.
Don't think DJ is talking to me after me giving him a hard time about buying a "big guy performance board" when he never rides any big waves.....and of course always offering up the naish 10'6 as the perfect solution to everything lol
MickMc
MickMc

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19 Mar 2014 6:32pm
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Kitemaster said..

Hi all,

I have 2 Naish Nalu's 11'6"and 10'6'5. I would like to try windsurf with these boards. I currently don't own any windsurf gear.
What would be a good size sail to use for light wind conditions? Does any one have suggestions.?


Hey Kitemaster, I've just started down this same path. Lots of windsurfers at my local breaks and they are great with the advice and the gear. Real community. The consensus was that around 4.5 to 5.2 metre sail is the way to go and those big boards you have will be perfect. My advice would be to go down the spot where you will be windsurfing and talk to the locals. I've met some really great guys in the last couple of weeks. They will probably have second hand gear that they are happy to give you or sell you at a good price. One guy set me up with stuff, showed me how to put it together and took me for a lesson (thanks Glen!)
MickMc
MickMc

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19 Mar 2014 6:37pm
Also, they said not to worry about harness and straps till later, if ever depending on what you want to do. You will need a sail, mast, mast extension, mast foot, uphaul and a boom and they all need to match each other to a certain extent. All I need is a board! Looking to get a second hand one around the 10'6 mark. I'm thinking fanatic fly, naish nalu or jp widebody if anyone has any comments on these boards for windsurfing I'd be interested.
GizzieNZ
GizzieNZ

4103 posts

19 Mar 2014 3:55pm
got the starboard 10'3 pro with windsurfer attachments
westozwind
westozwind

WA

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19 Mar 2014 4:00pm
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GizzieNZ said..

got the starboard 10'3 pro with windsurfer attachments


I think they are called foot straps...
GizzieNZ
GizzieNZ

4103 posts

19 Mar 2014 4:27pm
No....screw attachments for fixing windsurfer mast to board :)
GizzieNZ
GizzieNZ

4103 posts

19 Mar 2014 4:31pm
DJ could explain ....but he is suddenly and bizarrely "unable to comment"
GizzieNZ
GizzieNZ

4103 posts

19 Mar 2014 4:56pm
We seem to have had an instance in giz where a certain stand up paddle boarder has been very dominant in the waves
rumours say charges have been laid by police after another surfer hit by paddle
Some use the analogy of big silverback dominant gorilla feeling threatened by someone else wanting his banana
Rest assured I don't lust after DJ's banana
I don't think DJ's banana would be particularly big anyway
Greenroom
Greenroom

WA

7608 posts

19 Mar 2014 9:19pm
I windsurfed with my Starboard 9'8 x 29 and a 5.7m sail but I have been windsurfing for a little while.
DJ hasn't been windsurfing for years and is out of touch hahaha.
Don't go bigger than a 5m. The smaller the better as you will be able to have more control and learn how to use the sail to steer the board.



Once you get the basics down you can start crashing in the surf more hahaha

Kitemaster
Kitemaster

6 posts

20 Mar 2014 4:13am
good info! So I need to start looking for a small rig. Just to explain what I would like to do:
I use my Sup on the North Sea when it's not too windy. When it's windy I go out kiteboarding. We often have a pretty nasty shorebreak. I'm considering using a sail on my SUP in between so between 10-15 knots. I just wonder with a 5m sail if I wouldn't stand still and struggle with the shorebreak. Are there any people with similar conditions?

PS I did windsurf when I was younger but only on lakes(flat water)
GizzieNZ
GizzieNZ

4103 posts

20 Mar 2014 3:29pm
I suppose the question that comes to mind is...."why windsurf on a sup when a windsurfer mayb does the job better?"
....just a sort of curious question
warwickl
warwickl

NSW

2357 posts

20 Mar 2014 6:41pm
Well in my case my first interest is kitesurfing followed by SUP then Longboarding and have a boat for days when the wife likes to go for an overnight in the moon light experience. Also have a Hobie pedal,sail and paddle kayak.

I am lucky as some days the conditions only suit a windsurf so I can do this on one of my 2 SUPs that have the fitting plus no room for any windsurfing boards.
anyello
anyello

17 posts

21 Mar 2014 1:26am
If you only want a walk without arnes then use something about 4.0 but if you want planning with arnes then go bigger about 5,5-6
pwatts22
pwatts22

NSW

58 posts

22 Mar 2014 2:16pm
Hi kitemaster I use that same board the naish 11ft6 for light wind wavesailing and usually use a 5m wave sail, any larger sail hardly makes any difference but starts becoming a handful to use. You really wont get planning on that board but if you do you are probably be better swapping down to a smaller board or go kiting. If you are buying kit it would be better to buy a RDM mast to start with and keep away from the nasty shorebreak as much as possible as large sup's are pretty easy to break.
Timxzim
Timxzim

1 posts

23 Mar 2014 1:18pm
DJ how did you connect your centre board and rig to your SUP?
DavidJohn
DavidJohn

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23 Mar 2014 5:58pm
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Timxzim said..

DJ how did you connect your centre board and rig to your SUP?


Hi Timxzim.. There's no centre board.. I was on the Naish 10'10'' Nalu and it has a mast base screw hole on the board.

I did change the swept back dolphin fin for a deeper and more vertical fin off a Naih 14' Glide.

I had no problem going upwind without a centre board.. and no spin-out issues.

Welcome to the breeze..
weiry
weiry

QLD

5396 posts

25 Mar 2014 9:51am
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GizzieNZ said...
We seem to have had an instance in giz where a certain stand up paddle boarder has been very dominant in the waves
rumours say charges have been laid by police after another surfer hit by paddle
Some use the analogy of big silverback dominant gorilla feeling threatened by someone else wanting his banana
Rest assured I don't lust after DJ's banana
I don't think DJ's banana would be particularly big anyway


Gee gizz you seem hell bent on sticking it into DJ, light up mate it's only a forum. Picked up a rig down the goldie a few months back ( while on a bender with Chrispy) just started getting into it, all this info is great, BTW I have a 5.2 on a 10"2 JP fusion.
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