Great pics.. Nice glassy water..

DJ

Nice pics, but is that really a SUP board, or is he just standing up in a canoe?

^^^ I agree...anything deeper than 80mm & it's a boat!

Love the boat, canoe, dug out, DAS BOAT... call it what you like. What i call it now is the best downwind sup developed so far. I used to think they were ugly, then I rode one. It's to 14 footers, what the bullet is to the open class..

Looks like it may have a tendency to fill up with water off shore or are they only for flat water. How do they drain?

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Scotty Mac said...
Love the boat, canoe, dug out, DAS BOAT... call it what you like. What i call it now is the best downwind sup developed so far. I used to think they were ugly, then I rode one. It's to 14 footers, what the bullet is to the open class..

If the shoe fits... he he - I'm sure they're awesome but I'd worry too much about pigeons lining up on the rail when my car is parked.

dainage is via 4 holes. you can see 2 on picture 1, just below where the dude is standing. the dugout means that you are lowering you balance point to make them more stable.

The holes are called venturi or ventricles - I've heard them called both - the flow of water past them sucks the water out. They use them in 1-man outrigging canoes too.

they r fast.... but I spent more time in DW conditions trying to work out how to scale the side to get back into (or onto) the board... In complete exhaustion i actually climbed in one side and fell out the other!! its even on gopro!! lol. but I'm useless. I now have a flat deck so I can gracefully get back on

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skebstebamal said...
In complete exhaustion i actually climbed in one side and fell out the other!! its even on gopro!! lol. but I'm useless. t

Please post that footage.

starboards finest ocean canoe to date


word is faster again then the 25"


although there's 'way more to them then a dug out hole', i believe other companies will follow suit seeing as no organisation will make a call. sup isn't even that organised anyway

it will be a sad day for stand up paddle 'BOARDING' imo

maybe we need more race classes now- board and canoe

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srowndedbyh2 said...
Nice pics, but is that really a SUP board, or is he just standing up in a canoe?

Love the nay sayers. Try every board I can and still keep coming back to the old dugout. Best allround race board going IMO.
Being on runs is much better than not being on runs.
Sam.

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WINDSURFnSNOW said...

srowndedbyh2 said...
Nice pics, but is that really a SUP board, or is he just standing up in a canoe?

Love the nay sayers. Try every board I can and still keep coming back to the old dugout. Best allround race board going IMO.
Being on runs is much better than not being on runs.
Sam.

Yes I am also amused by stand up paddlers who object to a board based entirely upon cosmetic vanity. The irony. Have they learned nothing from the prejudiced rantings of angry short boarders?

To me, if it works well, it looks good. Form follows function.

Is Warwick's Ace 14'x25" or 14'x23.5"?

Anyone have first hand experience with the 25" vs 23.5" versions of the Ace? Any comments on speed and stability?

That one is the 25". I haven't seen a 23" yet but I think Sam, Beau and Scotty Mac have both so they can offer a comparison.

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WINDSURFnSNOW said...

srowndedbyh2 said...
Nice pics, but is that really a SUP board, or is he just standing up in a canoe?

Love the nay sayers. Try every board I can and still keep coming back to the old dugout. Best allround race board going IMO.
Being on runs is much better than not being on runs.
Sam.

but thats the point a few are trying to make- its not a board.

Ordered the 14x23.5" Ace. Should arrive in March.

Never got a chance to try it (actually, I think it will be the one first brought into Canada). I think I have a decent idea of how it'll perform since I currently have a 12'6"x23.5" NEW (earlier version of the Ace) and a 14'x25" Ace.

I find that the 12'6"x23.5" is a little quicker to paddle onto a runner but doesn't hold the glide as well as the 14'x25". The smaller board is more tippy but not dramatically so - for me at least. There's not much difference in flat water speed between the 2 boards over short distances (1km) but over longer paddles, the 14' can maintain its speed easier.

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PTWoody said...

WINDSURFnSNOW said...

srowndedbyh2 said...
Nice pics, but is that really a SUP board, or is he just standing up in a canoe?

Love the nay sayers. Try every board I can and still keep coming back to the old dugout. Best allround race board going IMO.
Being on runs is much better than not being on runs.
Sam.

Yes I am also amused by stand up paddlers who object to a board based entirely upon cosmetic vanity. The irony. Have they learned nothing from the prejudiced rantings of angry short boarders?

Yes, they told us to say it, "Bloody Canoe",

Hey Warwick,when can I have a go.

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PTWoody said...

WINDSURFnSNOW said...

srowndedbyh2 said...
Nice pics, but is that really a SUP board, or is he just standing up in a canoe?

Love the nay sayers. Try every board I can and still keep coming back to the old dugout. Best allround race board going IMO.
Being on runs is much better than not being on runs.
Sam.

Yes I am also amused by stand up paddlers who object to a board based entirely upon cosmetic vanity. The irony. Have they learned nothing from the prejudiced rantings of angry short boarders?

No nay sayer here. When it comes to getting out on the water, it's all good. I've always surfed whatever I was in the mood for. Long board, short board, fish, single fin, tri, twin, knee board, belly board, bodysurf, air mat, sup. It's all fun. Same for flat water paddling. You can standup in a kayak, or sit on a sup. As long as it gets you out on the water and you're having fun it doesn't matter.
Where it does (or may) matter is in competition. Many types of competitions already specify certain guidelines on equipment used. As Sup shapes evolve, with the exception of open class, there may need to be guidelines other than length. Where do you draw the line? Or do you draw a line? When is water craft considered a boat, or a sup, or a canoe, or kayak? Again, if you're just out on the water for fun, it doesn't matter.
Just thoughts for discussion on the evolution of SUP.

I was sort of hoping Warwick was going to get a slower board this season. Mind you in the photos Jean seems to be in front of him most of the time.

It will be interesting to see how the 2013 model stacks up against last years model. The "canoe" is certainly popular with WOW having a similar board and Joe Bark testing canoe shapes also.

Yes, the 23.5 is faster but more tippy. i guess if you put it in terms of percentage, the 23.5 is 10% more tippy and 10% faster. So its dependent on the conditions you intend using it and how much of a challenge your up for and ofcourse your weight. For me, its better below 20 knots but I am 88kg and an oldish hack. For a 60kg or less person, be a good allround.