I see the v box is quite narrow vs the minion

i can't see that the v box 7'9 would be as stable as the 7'8 hyper nut



any ideas

little confused as the litres are miles away from each other and the v box is narrower

Probably depends on your height, weight, and experience.

27 inch wide short SUP's are pretty tippy.

Ive paddled the 7'6 Vbox, the 7'8 Minion and the 7'8 Hypernut.

Vbox was the least stable by a mile.
Minion was considerably more stable, but too corky for my weight (77kg) in those dimensions
Hypernut was super stable, with really good glide, and sat nice and low in the water. So I bought one!!

I also own an 8'2 x 27 board, which I also find hard work stability wise compared to the 30" wide Hypernut. Width is your friend!

Thanks

yes I guess your right on the hyper nut I'm 90 kg plus wetsuit so guess the hypernut 7"8 is the right size intermediate rider

i just really like the look of the v box but if it that unstable I'm asking for trouble

As always, the best thing to do is demo if possible.

Ive found from testing small boards that 2 boards with very similar dimensions can be like chalk & cheese
when you ride them

I would of thought at your 77kg the 7'8 hypernut for you would be rather big
I assumed my 90kg would be more on the mark for the hypernut 7'8

i'm 92 kgs and tried the 7'8" HN. at first a bit wobbly, but after a few minutes it felt fine. was just a demo and i haven't tried the 8'0" HN, but i suspect if maximum stability is what you want, that would be the ticket.

From what I've seen the VBox is more refined and a high performance (shortboard style) type of board with the not so corky look and feel of the starboard. (haven't seen a minion)

I have narrowed it down to

jp surf slate vs hypernut

90+ kg intermediate I am thinking both boards are close in stability

will be hypernut 7'8 vs jp 7'6 I guess

I'm leaning towards the slate , a little more refined but still as stable at 29 wide same litres

I havn't tried the hypernut but love my slate im pushing around 90kg stacked a bit of weight on after 6 weeks holidays the 7'6×29 still floats me easily. I think the biggest plus is the option of thruster or quad. In thruster set up the slates really drivey and carves super nice, as a quad its a little faster but feels a bit more locked in on its line. Rode it last week in solid 5ft surf and it controlled the power well definately not at its size limit yet.

Thanks, are you advanced or intermediate ? And would you say it's for clean surf only at your weight or all conditions

how is the stability standing out the back

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Foam said..
I would of thought at your 77kg the 7'8 hypernut for you would be rather big
I assumed my 90kg would be more on the mark for the hypernut 7'8

I bought the Hypernut to replace an 8'2 x 32, 124 litre JP, so compared to that its not big at all.
And it sits really nicely in the water at my weight.
If I was getting one for glassy conditions only, I would have gone the 7'2x28, but I wanted something
that will still be good when it chops up a bit.
Have you read the thread on the 8' Hypernut? Plenty of guys around your size enjoying that. Just depends
where the board is going to fit in your quiver.
The other benefit of going to the larger size (other than the increased stability) is that you still get good glide.
One 90kg+ guy said the 7'8 had no glide at all. I've found the exact opposite to be true at my weight.

Good luck!

Yes very true, I think to be safe I guess the hyper nut 7'8 at 90+ kg is the best bet for stability in all conditions

Hi foam. Id say im at intermediate sup been on stand ups for 2 years. I use the slate in all conditions stability is almost as good as my old 8'2×32 widebody and way more stable than my 8'6 x 29 jp surf. You can forget about the nose or tail sinking and just concentrate on side to side balance. If you get a chance to demo make sure you use 3 fins it a different animal to the quad. It doesnt have a whole lot of glide but it is 7'6 after all but picks up a wave really easy as it gets on plane at the first hint of speed.

Heres the slate in some juice. Yhe gopro made it look a lot smaller than it was.

i've tried the JP Slate (7'6") and could barely stand on it in chop. the 7'8" HN was like standing on a dock compared to the Slate. don't know why, just reporting my experience.

Anyone else on the slate at 90kg plus in all conditions

its down to the hypernut or the slate 7'8 and the 7'6

It appears from what some are saying that the jp slate is even more stable than the minion

btw, a buddy of mine who is about 20 lbs lighter than me (he's probably about 180 lbs) used the 7'6" Slate and had some minor trouble with balance on it but was much better than me. He enjoyed it in the surf quite a bit. I just think for bigger guys (that aren't supermen balance-wise) the 7'6" is too small.

7"6 is the largest board in the jp slate

I did not think there would be much difference in the slate vs hypernut
I understand the v box is somewhat a challenge due to only 27 wide

My 2 cents worth....I think what Wicksy mentions 'just depends where the board is going to fit in your quiver' is the most important thing.

If you are looking for a board to replace a widebody style board or you want it as your day-to-day board, then go slightly wider e.g. 7'8 HN.

If you are looking for a board for clean days / quick rail to rail transitions / late drops etc. then go narrower e.g. Slate or VBOX........the reward is well worth it.

Obviously the shorter the board, the more you compromise on things like glide so you ideally need to demo where possible.

I've owned both a 7'10 Minion (29" wide) & 7'9 VBOX (27" wide) & both are awesome boards but I settled on the VBOX only because it was a better fit for my quiver

So really the slate 7' 6 is just a clean day board only so limited

My 7'6" Slate is as stable as my 8'4", but is a slug to paddle. A buddy has a JP 8'6" Surf Pro and the Slate is more stable in chop, etc.

Am old 67, but a skinny old fart at 67 kegs. As our winter approaches and the heavy suits are put on, I will sadly ride the Slate less, but more because of my paddling deficiencies and the Slate is slooow. Just trying to make a distinction between instability and paddling concerns. My buddy has no issues with his Slate at all..

That is very odd for such a light weight

110kg, intermediate rider and very excited about my new 8'6" Hypernut, I can't get it in the water until the new year, but I'd say first trip will be to the Alley or maybe the Pass wooooo

Does anyone else have the 8'6"? How does it go for you?

Do the boys on the surf boards chase you out of the alley on a good day ?

Keen to find out how you got on Dad. I'm a similar weight. Keep us posted

Krist the alleys a lot more sup friendly than the other pointbreaks just sit wide off laceys and leave the shortboarders to take off at the rock