Got my new ECS (east coast surfboards) brushed carbon weapon last week when we were at the Surf Expo in Orlando, surfed it off the point at crezzo yesterday goes unreal! Ill post more photos if surfing it soon. But check it out it weight around 5kg. Less than my previous custom 7'10. Comes in at 88L and I'm 78kg. It feel like the volume is around 95 so it's comfy when wait for waves. Photos don't look as good as it is under your feet!

Looks Nice, is the 5kg with fins and grip?

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supa said..

Looks Nice, is the 5kg with fins and grip?

Yea with grip. I haven't weighed it yet but it's lighter Han my previous one which was 5kg

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pohaku said..

supa said..

Looks Nice, is the 5kg with fins and grip?

Yea with grip. I haven't weighed it yet but it's lighter Han my previous one which was 5kg

Nice lookin stick but can I make a friendly suggestion....
If it's a production board it might be wise to weigh it and ask the shaper what the volume is before you start throwing figures around.
If it's a one off custom doesn't matter so much.

nice looking board, however, what became of victor229/caveat emptor situation

i would want to know about that before i took any real notice of the boards you are posting to be honest


cheers

I met these guys at Newcastle. SUPBALI Peter was running a comp. They were all about 18 to 21 and it seemed like they were trying to make a living out of doing what they loved. I could be completely wrong. All Australian made on the Central Coast from what I understood. A guy bought one on the day and was wrapped. His name was Graham (from Sydney) and was surfing a 10 ft SA carrier. I think they've got their heart in the right place but haven't too much business nouse. Then again I married a woman that Bull s----d me for 25 years so what would I know. What's Mr Caveat Emptor of the 3 posts in 4 years say. They do however certainly leave huge holes in their information and problem resolution issues, so I'm probably wrong. Answer some questions or you're in real danger of getting a bad name Pohaku!!!

First of the vector situation is clearly one side to the story. I'm a team rider a and distributor for ecs out of port Stephens Newcastle. People can put what they want on seabreeze and doesn't take a genius to realize that half the info is incorrect or wrong.

Ecs boards are not s**t. The vector situation was about frieght and he agreed to having no insurance as its over 9' and as a result he was damaged unfortunately. The paddle yes is been replaced because its a manufacturing fault. But you can't tell me that Nash starboard fanatic etc have not had faults? True?

These boards are made in the exact same factory as Naish with the exact same layup but shapes are made by ecs and have our logo on them.

I put my board on here like a lot of others do. I will weigh it today to get final specs.

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Deano72 said...

pohaku said..

supa said..

Looks Nice, is the 5kg with fins and grip?

Yea with grip. I haven't weighed it yet but it's lighter Han my previous one which was 5kg

It is 88L but cause of the overall shape and construction it feel more. I know it's 88 and I have the shape file.

Nice lookin stick but can I make a friendly suggestion....
If it's a production board it might be wise to weigh it and ask the shaper what the volume is before you start throwing figures around.
If it's a one off custom doesn't matter so much.

What is brushed carbon and how do they make it??

was the board bag replaced ?

two sides to a story, yes that's why i asked.

the thing is if you cut out the middle man etc to sell boards of the same quality as say naish as per your post, and lower the price dramatically, one has to wonder when a punter feels he has to go on a forum to vent his frustrations.

one has to wonder how ecs can 1/2 the retail price excluding paddle that naish sets.

one has to wonder why ecs feels the need to sell their boards so cheap if they are of cobra/naish build quality.

some more details please




cheers

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was the board bag replaced ?

two sides to a story, yes that's why i asked.

the thing is if you cut out the middle man etc to sell boards of the same quality as say naish as per your post, and lower the price dramatically, one has to wonder when a punter feels he has to go on a forum to vent his frustrations.

one has to wonder how ecs can 1/2 the retail price excluding paddle that naish sets.

one has to wonder why ecs feels the need to sell their boards so cheap if they are of cobra/naish build quality.

some more details please




cheers

You continue to prove how little you know about SUP manufacturing. ECS are top quality boards and yes they are manufactured in the same factory as Naish. Just FYI Naish also have produced in China. It didn't take much research to find this information.
In fact I actually found this on seabreeze.

Pull your head out of your ass and do some research before making such comments.

I also don't believe that the dispute between customer and company is any of your business.

Get a life mate.

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laceys lane said...
was the board bag replaced ?

two sides to a story, yes that's why i asked.

the thing is if you cut out the middle man etc to sell boards of the same quality as say naish as per your post, and lower the price dramatically, one has to wonder when a punter feels he has to go on a forum to vent his frustrations.

one has to wonder how ecs can 1/2 the retail price excluding paddle that naish sets.

one has to wonder why ecs feels the need to sell their boards so cheap if they are of cobra/naish build quality.

some more details please




cheers

You continue to prove how little you know about SUP manufacturing. ECS are top quality boards and yes they are manufactured in the same factory as Naish. Just FYI Naish also have produced in China. It didn't take much research to find this information.
In fact I actually found this on seabreeze.

Pull your head out of your ass and do some research before making such comments.

I also don't believe that the dispute between customer and company is any of your business.

Get a life mate.

oh dear, well thats the end of that. your selling the stuff buddy- you prove it.

i believe you just have

cheers

Haha, your wrong again. Not surprised to be honest.
I'm just sticking up for the little guy that your trying to destroy.

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Haha, your wrong again. Not surprised to be honest.
I'm just sticking up for the little guy that your trying to destroy.

Hey McDougal, I know Dylan from ECS personally. Your comments actually read as though you were a part of ECS also. So in your attampt to "stick up for the little guy" you are doing more harm than good.

I can say to all, that I have dealt with Dylan over the last 2-3 years & found him to be honest & passionate about this sport. He is genuinely attempting to get his Aussie brand off the ground & I also believe the case with Victor is a one off bit of bad luck, that will eventually be sorted out. As Leroy13 pointed out, Victor has posted 3 times in his 4 years of being a member of Seabreeze.

Dylan, I really think you need to get as much detail as possible on all your boards up on here to stop what appears to be happening in these posts mate.

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Haha, your wrong again. Not surprised to be honest.
I'm just sticking up for the little guy that your trying to destroy.

your wrong. i gave an opportunity for a reply to out line their position, some board manufacturing details- a bit more then they are quality.

basicily i want to know more about the boards and the brand than make my own mind up

so far just a angry replies


cheers

Fair point Zeusman. I 100% do not have any association with ECS. Or anything to do with the sport apart from riding them of course.
If that's the way it came across I apologise to ECS.
I just can not stand a select few on here that try and bring down a smaller company, as they do not ride their board.
I just hope the majority of readers see through this bull****. And I think they do.

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Fair point Zeusman. I 100% do not have any association with ECS. Or anything to do with the sport apart from riding them of course.
If that's the way it came across I apologise to ECS.
I just can not stand a select few on here that try and bring down a smaller company, as they do not ride their board.
I just hope the majority of readers see through this bull****. And I think they do.

Hey mate. Thanks for the backing, people need to understand things go wrong. And this post was purely to show my new SUP. 7'10 x 27.5 x 3 3/4 88L 5.05kg with fins. The reason it weights nothing is cause it's a smaller board. If it was 9' carbon it will be heavier cause of more volume and material. The vector situation had nothing to do with me. I own BAYSUP port Stephens and ride for ecs Check out that thread for the other side of the story. ECS replied.

And Lacey just cause these boards don't have a fanatic, starboard or Naish logo doesn't mean there crap. If you think these boards are crap, feel free to check out the ECS booth in February at surf expo QLD and you can make your decision about our boards then. But for now without riding or seeing out product please keep your inappropriate comments to your self

Cheers

I'm not on anyones side here....but we've entered into a new era of retail in the last few years that's going to take a while to sort itself out.
On one side you have the long term established brands with their distribution and retail channels that in most cases are decades old.

1/Big Board Co orders gear from factory, 2/ then to country distributor, 3/then to shops, 4/then to end consumer.

1/Little Board Co orders gear from same factory, 2/(no step 2 - no country distributor), 3/(no step 3, no retailers), 4/ the end consumer.

The margin from step to step can vary but regardless of what the margins are, Little Board Co cuts out at least 2 steps plus they don't have to pay any royalties to Mr Ex (current or past) World Champ Big Name Person (not that there is anything wrong with that), team riders and all the other expensive marketing and overheads that are normally associated with the Big Board Co.

Essentially Little Board Co can, in some cases, have overheads of a basic website and mums garage for storage.

Things have changed in the market place to such an extent these days, that what may turn out to be a very large global surf co can start in a bedroom.

So, it is not surprising that Little Board Co can possibly sell a very well made product at a fraction of Big Board Co's price. For the simple fact that Little Board Co has a fraction of the overheads of Big Board Co and even has them made in the same factory.

BUT - Big Board Co, with all its extra infrastructure, should be able to give much better hands-on, touch it and feel it, just bring it back to the shop if you have any problems, good old customer service. But this touch it and feel it team rider proven, local shop convenience good old customer service has a much larger price tag.

Little Board Co can also give good customer service but would never be able to match the level of service provided by Big Board Co. at a local shop level.

The point is all board co's, big and small, should be doing the best they can to sort out any problems they may have from time to time with their products.

But the consumer also has to take some responsibility for their buying decisions.
The consumer needs to decide if they want to pay more money for R&D team rider proven, world expert name with local retail shop touch it and feel it Big Board Co customer service levels and back up.

OR

Save money with Little Board Co's low overhead boards that may or may not be made in the same factories as the Big Board Co. In most cases buying on line and having the board freighted to your home or work (with more risk of damage), with no local touch it and feel it shop style customer service or Big Board Co back up.

The customer service has to be different because the business model is totally different. Both business models have their advantages and both have their disadvantages. This type of consumer buying choice is happening in almost all types of goods in the market place today.

The consumer needs to make a choice if they want to save money for less customer service infrastructure, which may turn out to be much more time consuming if something goes wrong in the buying process. OR the consumer decides to pay more money for touch it and feel it team rider proven and possibly faster and easier Big Co local shop service if something goes wrong with the goods. OR save a heap of money on a good board if it all goes to plan.

In closing, its not fair for a consumer to buy a product from Little Board Co, possibly saving hundreds of dollars or even 1/2 price.....then scream the house down that they didn't receive the same level of quality control and speed of customer service you would expect to get from Big Board Co. The consumer should also not complain about Big Board Co's more expensive board prices either, because when they pay Big Board Co's prices they should get a level of product and service that's not able to be provided by Little Board Co.

There is always a difference in buying products or services that may at 1st glance look to be the same. I'm not saying its ok to sell a brick in a box, but the consumer has to take some responsibility for the purchasing decisions when the prices are worlds apart for what looks to be a similar product.

There is room for both types of businesses in the market place, but people just need to be a bit realistic.

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McDougal said...
Fair point Zeusman. I 100% do not have any association with ECS. Or anything to do with the sport apart from riding them of course.
If that's the way it came across I apologise to ECS.
I just can not stand a select few on here that try and bring down a smaller company, as they do not ride their board.
I just hope the majority of readers see through this bull****. And I think they do.

Hey mate. Thanks for the backing, people need to understand things go wrong. And this post was purely to show my new SUP. 7'10 x 27.5 x 3 3/4 88L 5.05kg with fins. The reason it weights nothing is cause it's a smaller board. If it was 9' carbon it will be heavier cause of more volume and material. The vector situation had nothing to do with me. I own BAYSUP port Stephens and ride for ecs Check out that thread for the other side of the story. ECS replied.

And Lacey just cause these boards don't have a fanatic, starboard or Naish logo doesn't mean there crap. If you think these boards are crap, feel free to check out the ECS booth in February at surf expo QLD and you can make your decision about our boards then. But for now without riding or seeing out product please keep your inappropriate comments to your self

Cheers

i've made no inappropriate comments just asking questions and for info. which no one seems to want to provide- just uppity rude replies.

you guys aren't selling yourselves.

the reply from whoever ecsboards is is more i've what i would expect from a company.


maybe you guys should shutup yourselves and leave to someone who knows how to do it.

far out

Hey Guys ECS here, as you will see by the amount of our posts we do not regularly troll these pages however probably should. Just want to clear up a few issues. Dylan is a team rider of ours and runs his own paddle school in the newcastle/port stephens area, he is also a distributor of our boards. He would have to be one of the most passionate people i know about the sport, he lives and breaths it and im proud to have him on board as part of our team. Although I dont know Mcdougal's identity, thank you for your support i know you didn't mean any harm.

Regarding the Vector issue, you can find my response to that on the original post, I wont go into it again except to say it was largely a break down in communication that lead to the post.

Regarding some info from dylans original post, the brushed carbon 7'10 is 88L and weighs a little over 5Kgs around 5.2 to be exact. That was a custom design that i shaped for him which will more than likely go into production in other sizes later this year. We are also making a brushed carbon series for our PW2 model again available later this year.

ECS has been around, albeit a small company for about the past 8 years. We have been surfing all our lives and started this business with our main focus shaping short boards. We have continued to expand with long boards and began shaping SUP's about 4 years ago. All of our SUP boards are thoughtfully designed and shaped with the surf in mind. Yes its true some Naish, some Starboard and some Fanatic are made in the same china factory as our production boards. Their main production is however cobra. We also have the capabilities and do shape custom boards locally here on the central coast.

In no way am i trying to bring down the big name brands, the very simple reason why our boards are cheaper in price is due to the margins, handling and overheads of the larger foreign owned international companies. They, i believe would have an Australian distributor, probably then a state rep or distributor followed by either region or retailers. So there are a number of hands who take a cut before it gets to the consumer. Where as with us, we are an Australian Company, we are the importer, distributor and retailer so we can offer a more competitive price. We do also however have a few retailers and paddle schools who distribute our boards in NSW.

We are a small Australian company in an industry largely dominated by international brands. We are not trying to match them, and its probably a poor business decision on our part but our aim is and always will be no matter how large we grow to is to bring quality performance products to the market at reasonable prices. I dont want to pay over 2000 for a board so why would i expect my customers to. We are not in the cheap entry level market, there are many other cheaper boards out there. We are happy to be in the mid range providing quality boards without the high end price tag.

Anyway hope this clears up a few issues

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Hey Guys ECS here, as you will see by the amount of our posts we do not regularly troll these pages however probably should. Just want to clear up a few issues. Dylan is a team rider of ours and runs his own paddle school in the newcastle/port stephens area, he is also a distributor of our boards. He would have to be one of the most passionate people i know about the sport, he lives and breaths it and im proud to have him on board as part of our team. Although I dont know Mcdougal's identity, thank you for your support i know you didn't mean any harm.

Regarding the Vector issue, you can find my response to that on the original post, I wont go into it again except to say it was largely a break down in communication that lead to the post.

Regarding some info from dylans original post, the brushed carbon 7'10 is 88L and weighs a little over 5Kgs around 5.2 to be exact. That was a custom design that i shaped for him which will more than likely go into production in other sizes later this year. We are also making a brushed carbon series for our PW2 model again available later this year.

ECS has been around, albeit a small company for about the past 8 years. We have been surfing all our lives and started this business with our main focus shaping short boards. We have continued to expand with long boards and began shaping SUP's about 4 years ago. All of our SUP boards are thoughtfully designed and shaped with the surf in mind. Yes its true some Naish, some Starboard and some Fanatic are made in the same china factory as our production boards. Their main production is however cobra. We also have the capabilities and do shape custom boards locally here on the central coast.

In no way am i trying to bring down the big name brands, the very simple reason why our boards are cheaper in price is due to the margins, handling and overheads of the larger foreign owned international companies. They, i believe would have an Australian distributor, probably then a state rep or distributor followed by either region or retailers. So there are a number of hands who take a cut before it gets to the consumer. Where as with us, we are an Australian Company, we are the importer, distributor and retailer so we can offer a more competitive price. We do also however have a few retailers and paddle schools who distribute our boards in NSW.

We are a small Australian company in an industry largely dominated by international brands. We are not trying to match them, and its probably a poor business decision on our part but our aim is and always will be no matter how large we grow to is to bring quality performance products to the market at reasonable prices. I dont want to pay over 2000 for a board so why would i expect my customers to. We are not in the cheap entry level market, there are many other cheaper boards out there. We are happy to be in the mid range providing quality boards without the high end price tag.

Anyway hope this clears up a few issues

Thank god for a little common sense

ok. i got a chance to have a look at the web site. been around since 2005. they have a a good looking range of sb's and longboards. some look local, others os made.

four models/ranges of sups with more to come says the web site. looks like you can get sups custom/semi custom if you ask.

i can't get the construction link to come up. i would still like to see something on that

i like the fact they/ecs have been around for a while. too many flyby nighters around our neck of the woods

i'm sorry if i caused some of the crew some bother. it seems as the vector scene was just bad luck and he didn't give us the entire story with the freight being a outside company who state no promises. if he had the paddle and bag replaced - well that's all good

pohaku , thx's for the link. thx's for the reply from ecsboards

All good, the website is being updated and hoping to have the construction pages up and running shortly
cheers

What does FCS say about your name and logo, not stirring but it looks and sounds the same

Yeah i concede its similar but obviously stands for a different thing, we are actually an authorised manufacturing distributor of FSC using their fins and plugs on our boards so all is good

Hi ECS how do you reinforced the feet path , do you put patch of carbon under feet to avoid foot print during paddling?
I hope some session's reports from Pokahu

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ok. i got a chance to have a look at the web site. been around since 2005. they have a a good looking range of sb's and longboards. some look local, others os made.

four models/ranges of sups with more to come says the web site. looks like you can get sups custom/semi custom if you ask.

i can't get the construction link to come up. i would still like to see something on that

i like the fact they/ecs have been around for a while. too many flyby nighters around our neck of the woods

i'm sorry if i caused some of the crew some bother. it seems as the vector scene was just bad luck and he didn't give us the entire story with the freight being a outside company who state no promises. if he had the paddle and bag replaced - well that's all good

pohaku , thx's for the link. thx's for the reply from ecsboards

Not many people would do what you did mate, big ups and well articulated!!

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Hi ECS how do you reinforced the feet path , do you put patch of carbon under feet to avoid foot print during paddling?
I hope some session's reports from Pokahu

How do you mean? There is extra class on the nose tail and around the handle

For our general bamboo and painted SUP we use one layer of glass followed by a reinforcement bamboo patch over the stance area followed by a full length layer of bamboo then full length glass and another reinforcement layer of the stance area.

For brushed carbon we vacuum bag a pvc wrap to the blank then lay up carbon fibre and glass layer, super strong.

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For our general bamboo and painted SUP we use one layer of glass followed by a reinforcement bamboo patch over the stance area followed by a full length layer of bamboo then full length glass and another reinforcement layer of the stance area.

For brushed carbon we vacuum bag a pvc wrap to the blank then lay up carbon fibre and glass layer, super strong.

Thank you, this is strong where it's need this way you do

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Got my new ECS (<span id="adtext_3" class="adtext">east coast</span> surfboards) brushed carbon weapon last week when we were at the <span id="adtext_1" class="adtext">Surf Expo</span> in Orlando, surfed it off the point at crezzo yesterday goes unreal! Ill post more photos if surfing it soon. But check it out it weight around 5kg. Less than my previous custom 7'10. Comes in at 88L and I'm 78kg. It feel like the volume is around 95 so it's comfy when wait for waves. Photos don't look as good as it is under your feet!

What kind of fins will you set on this board? On the photos it's looking whith a flat tail , I mean no much tail lift which explains the extra toe of side fins .
In case you would like to get this board as a thruster with a back fin position further back on the tail out of the US rail box, look what I did on my 7'11":

























PS; the logo "kami" is not a commercial one, this is just for the art.